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This thread has gone so fast I haven't been able to keep up...was "M" part of the Zarelli (or the mother's) family? Was her story true or false?
This thread has gone so fast I haven't been able to keep up...was "M" part of the Zarelli (or the mother's) family? Was her story true or false?
I was born in New Hampshire in 1975 and my parents weren't married. They made me take my mother's last name and under Father it said unknown. He also was not allowed in the hospital when I was born.I can tell you that when I was born, in Ohio, in 1977, my parents weren't married and they made my mother give me her last name. I don't know how common that was, or if it applied to PA as well. My parents married a year later and my last name was changed, I actually didn't know anything about it until I needed a birth certificate for some reason and I saw my original BC and SS card with my mom's maiden name.
I remember that picture. Yes, you can see him inside.This bothers me immensely and maybe I'm looking at the photo incorrectly but I don't think so. Wikepedia has a picture of 'crime scene where the body was found' and it appears to show his little body in the box please tell me I'm wrong ...
M never claimed to be the boys direct sibling. That her mother “bought” him.This thread has gone so fast I haven't been able to keep up...was "M" part of the Zarelli (or the mother's) family? Was her story true or false?
This thread has gone so fast I haven't been able to keep up...was "M" part of the Zarelli (or the mother's) family? Was her story true or false?
yes my dads birth certificate has who they thought was his father but dna has since proved it is not. Could be same issue here?
As far as M, if it runs out to be false, maybe it could be explained by false memories not intentionally malicious. Regardless, i hope she too found her own peace with whatever did or did not happen in her life.
I just checked; my dad's name is on my original BC, but my last name is my mother's maiden name. The law now in Ohio is that if you're legally married the man that you're married to is listed on the birth certificate as the father of your child even if he's not biologically the father. Weird how things change.I was born in New Hampshire in 1975 and my parents weren't married. They made me take my mother's last name and under Father it said unknown. He also was not allowed in the hospital when I was born.
"There is a plaque on the 700 block of Susquehanna Road that marks the spot where the 'Boy in the Box' was found."Does anyone have the exact location of where the body was found?
Census dates:
1950
1960. (Not public until 2031)
Sorry, I should have clarified I was thinking of a combination of state and federal census(es), only to discover that state census was never done in Pennsylvania and wouldn't have made much of a difference considering the decade gap.Unfortunately, censuses are run every ten years. So, he was born after one census, 1953, and died before the next one, 1957.
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Because, as a lot of the anecdotal comments on here show, the surname of the father would not necessarily have been the surname given to Joseph on official documents. His mother's surname might have been Zarelli.Why is everyone speculating that the father was not a Zarelli? They said during the press conference that the father was listed on the birth certificate.
Did they actually say the parents were not together? I know they kind of eluded to it, but I reread the press release, etc. and I didn't see anything that said for sure that they were not (or had not) been married. I am just trying to figure out what we know vs what is speculation. There is so much info in this post. Thanks all.Because, as a lot of the anecdotal comments on here show, the surname of the father would not necessarily have been the surname given to Joseph on official documents. His mother's surname might have been Zarelli.
Sorry, I should have clarified I was thinking of a combination of state and federal census(es), only to discover that state census was never done in Pennsylvania and wouldn't have made much of a difference considering the decade gap.
You're both right.
Probably going to write this wrong, so I apologize. If the identified father had brothers, it's possible one of them could have been his biological father instead, no matter what the birth certificate says. I don't think they're disputing a familial relationship, only that their father is his father. That's how I interpreted it.They said the father listed on the birth certificate is his father. They matched the dna. I'm just confused why it's being questioned when it seemed clear to me from the presser that the father on the BC was in fact his actual biological father.
Did they actually say the parents were not together? I know they kind of eluded to it, but I reread the press release, etc. and I didn't see anything that said for sure that they were not (or had not) been married. I am just trying to figure out what we know vs what is speculation. There is so much info in this post. Thanks all.
In PA our birth certificate’s list the mothers maiden name and the fathers name. So looking at one you would never know if parents are married or not.My theory is that Joseph was born out of wedlock and put up for adoption. Hence LE's using bio parents and saying that he had siblings on both sides. The bio parents likely went on to have other families. I don't believe they, whoever, they were, were involved in Joseph's death. As far as not alerting LE at the time, if he was given up as an infant, it would be unlikely that they would have even recognized him as their child. The father may not have even known about him.