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Is an Amish couple adopting a child from outside of their family/community a common occurrence?
I think it is advisable for them to enlarge gene pool.
JMO
Is an Amish couple adopting a child from outside of their family/community a common occurrence?
1st post but lurking since page 1. Can anyone clarify were the previous owners related to Cranston or were they related to the Byler's. TIA as I can't seem to get this straight.I didn’t look up property records but are we sure the previous owners were related or they just have the same surname? As someone previously stated, in these small insular communities you are going to see the same surnames over and over again, even in Amish communities in other states.
They were, as I understand it, not related to either of them. The previous owners were foster parents to Cranston's grandson.1st post but lurking since thread 1. Can anyone clarify were the previous owners related to Cranston or were they related to the Byler's. TIA as I can't seem to get this straight.
IMO, these types tend to refuse any accountability whatsoever, so I could totally see him believing he “had” to kill her bc she was screaming at him. “If only” she had been calm and rational, he would’ve realized the grandson no longer lived there. It’s somehow this poor, defenseless woman’s “fault” in his head.I wonder when he realized he was attacking the wrong person and family, that he had murdered a complete stranger that had no connection to his grandson?
So shocking. So senseless.
Is an Amish couple adopting a child from outside of their family/community a common occurrence?
I think your theory sounds quite plausible.I guess the perp went to this house to demand the new address of foster parents.
When denied the info, he went berserk.
I suspect he harassed the previous owners of this house too.
Interesting that the grandson was taken from the family in the first place.
And he was not considered the appropriate guardian by authorities.
To add...
I thought in case of fostering kids, the "blood" family is not informed of identity of foster parents.
Just to avoid such situations.
JMO
In the Orrin & Orson West case out of Bakersfield - bio-mom lost custody of the boys. For a period of time after, reunification services took place. She was allowed supervised visits and knew who they were placed with. My example above is a long, complicated case, which I've greatly simplified in my description.I guess the perp (allegedly) went to this house to demand the new address of foster parents.
When denied the info, he (allegedly) went berserk.
I suspect he (allegedly) harassed the previous owners of this house too.
Interesting that the grandson was (allegedly) taken from the family in the first place.
And he (allegedly) was not considered the appropriate guardian by authorities.
To add...
I thought in case of fostering/adopting kids,
the bio family is not informed of identity of foster parents.
Just to avoid such situations.
JMO
It is quite possible there is more to the story. But also, it is possible that he has a different opinion of his grandson being raised in the Amish community than he would by a non Amish foster parent. Many people who do live alongside the Amish are not exactly supporters of their community, there can be a lot of friction and disagreementI find it odd that the alleged murderer was supposedly driven to kill to get back a family member from a foster/adoptive family when he himself was apparently a foster parent.
MOO
I think it's also possible that the adoptive parents who formerly live in the Byler's home were not Amish, even though they shared a last name with the current residents and were likely at least distantly related to them.Is an Amish couple adopting a child from outside of their family/community a common occurrence?
Just a thought - in his situation as a foster, he was in control. With his own grandson, he clearly wasn't in control of the situation. What happened wasn't right in his view. I wouldn't be suprised, if he tried to gain custody but was refused.I find it odd that the alleged murderer was supposedly driven to kill to get back a family member from a foster/adoptive family when he himself was apparently a foster parent.
MOO
In the realtor pics of the home, posted here several pages back, I noticed the absence of visible electrical outlets in any room of the house. Based strictly on that, and on the very short amount of time that the Byler family has lived there, I tend to believe that whoever owned the house previously was likely also Amish. JMOI think it's also possible that the adoptive parents who formerly live in the Byler's home were not Amish, even though they shared a last name with the current residents and were likely at least distantly related to them.
I think the house was also put back on the market briefly after the current Bylers purchased it, so that confuses the issue a little. You're probably right though. MOOIn the realtor pics of the home, posted here several pages back, I noticed the absence of visible electrical outlets in any room of the house. Based strictly on that, I tend to believe that it is likely that whoever owned the house previously was also Amish. JMO
He could have just gotten the info from the county property recordsI guess the perp (allegedly) went to this house to demand the new address of foster parents.
When denied the info, he (allegedly) went berserk.
I suspect he (allegedly) harassed the previous owners of this house too.
Interesting that the grandson was (allegedly) taken from the family in the first place.
And he (allegedly) was not considered the appropriate guardian by authorities.
To add...
I thought in case of fostering/adopting kids,
the bio family is not informed of identity of foster parents.
Just to avoid such situations.
JMO