Parents of third graders outraged at diversity tape
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440 posts, actually, iirc.Nova said:
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Which religion? Yours?Kitty5001 said:
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Kitty5001 said:
Restatement of a position is not the same as elaboration.
I'll ask again: children are taught all sorts of things of which we may not approve. Why is a committed relationship between consenting partners more taboo than violence?
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HAHAHAHAHAh. That was funny.GlitchWizard said:
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Again - because being gay is a fact - religion is your opinion.Kitty5001 said:
A good looking man walked into an agent's office in Hollywood and said "I want to be a movie star." Tall, handsome and with experience on Broadway, he had the right credentials.
The agent asked, "What's your name?"
The guy said, "My name is Penis van Lesbian."
The agent said, "Sir, I hate to tell you, but in order to get into Hollywood, you are going to have to change your name."
"I will NOT change my name! The van Lesbian name is centuries old, I will not disrespect my grandfather by changing my name. Not ever."
The agent said, "Sir, I have worked in Hollywood for years... you
will NEVER go far in Hollywood with a name like Penis van Lesbian! I'm telling you, you will HAVE TO change your name or I will not be able to represent you."
"So be it! I guess we will not do business together" the guy said and he left the agent's office.
FIVE YEARS LATER: The agent opens an envelope sent to his
office. Inside the envelope is a letter and a check for $50,000. The agent is awe-struck, who would possibly send him $50,000? He reads the letter enclosed....
"Dear Sir, Five years ago, I came into your office wanting to become an actor in Hollywood, you told me I needed to change my name. Determined to make it with my God-given birth name, I refused. You told me I would never make it in Hollywood with a name like Penis van Lesbian. After I left your office, I thought about what you said. I decided you were right. I had to change my name. I had too much pride to return to your office, so I signed with another agent. I would never have made it without changing my name, so the enclosed check is a token of my appreciation.
Thank you for your advice..
Sincerely,
Dick van Dyke
The agent asked, "What's your name?"
The guy said, "My name is Penis van Lesbian."
The agent said, "Sir, I hate to tell you, but in order to get into Hollywood, you are going to have to change your name."
"I will NOT change my name! The van Lesbian name is centuries old, I will not disrespect my grandfather by changing my name. Not ever."
The agent said, "Sir, I have worked in Hollywood for years... you
will NEVER go far in Hollywood with a name like Penis van Lesbian! I'm telling you, you will HAVE TO change your name or I will not be able to represent you."
"So be it! I guess we will not do business together" the guy said and he left the agent's office.
FIVE YEARS LATER: The agent opens an envelope sent to his
office. Inside the envelope is a letter and a check for $50,000. The agent is awe-struck, who would possibly send him $50,000? He reads the letter enclosed....
"Dear Sir, Five years ago, I came into your office wanting to become an actor in Hollywood, you told me I needed to change my name. Determined to make it with my God-given birth name, I refused. You told me I would never make it in Hollywood with a name like Penis van Lesbian. After I left your office, I thought about what you said. I decided you were right. I had to change my name. I had too much pride to return to your office, so I signed with another agent. I would never have made it without changing my name, so the enclosed check is a token of my appreciation.
Thank you for your advice..
Sincerely,
Dick van Dyke
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Yeah! The idea for ANY religious group to think it will one day take over the human race is so bizarre to me.Nova said:Well, duh! Isn't it always?
I don't understand why I would need a religion to be a good person and do good things and make good choices. What is so demonic about doing the right thing in the name of humanity rather then a God? How am I helping out their Devil dude here?
Not only that - but when you do good for humanity for the sake of humanity - then you are just doing it to be a decent person - not because you are afaid of getting in trouble later on. Or because you are trying to buy a ticket into a place after you die? Why not be a good person and make a heaven here on earth - within your life.
I don't have a problem with religion - I only have a problem really when people try to push theirs on me - or my children - or when a "kind" person informs me that while it's nice that I'm a good person - but that I will be going to hell for not joining their belief system - a place they tell me I will burn and like my flesh will ooze off and all kinds of torture forever? Thanks. That's so kind. lol.
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James Chamberlain is a teacher here in British Columbia and he's a HUGE advocate for books about same sex parent books being available to teachers as support material. My son was in his kindergarten class nine years ago. What a great year. As a teacher he was amazing with the kids and I'd say the 'book' thing was like a nano second compared to the rest of the school year. My son turned out just fine. The books are not sex guides, they simply tell a story and the characters just happen to be gay parents.
Ghosts and goblins are great for halloween but we can't tell a story that has two moms that love eachother in it?
I guess those that would not want this material in schools are most likely to let their children know they feel being gay is wrong. How anyone can say it's their place to judge how two consenting adults show eachother love behind closed doors is beyond me.
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Ghosts and goblins are great for halloween but we can't tell a story that has two moms that love eachother in it?
I guess those that would not want this material in schools are most likely to let their children know they feel being gay is wrong. How anyone can say it's their place to judge how two consenting adults show eachother love behind closed doors is beyond me.
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I agree with this paragraph very much. It's how I try to live my life. Not because I'm afraid I'll get into trouble, but because I really, truly believe it to be the right thing to do.Jessiebell said:
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jubie said:
Alas, jubie, here in the States some of the same parents who are most opposed to any mention of same-sex parents have also forbidden any mention of ghosts and goblins. On the ground that these are "demonic" or "pagan" beings.
Once you start down the road of legislating your superstitions...
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While I agreed above that for some people, religious faith is a great source of ethical behavior, I absolutely agree with Jessie and IM that it is not the ONLY source of ethical behavior.
And when religious-based ethics mean intolerance of those who are different or hold different views, then we have to question the value of the ethics.
And when religious-based ethics mean intolerance of those who are different or hold different views, then we have to question the value of the ethics.
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Believe me, I'm certainly not advocating that anyone stay in an abusive marriage. My comment was aimed more towards those divorces of convenience where the selfishness of the adults takes precedence over the needs of the children. Staying in an abusive marriage is never the right thing to do. Staying in an abusive marriage teaches the children that its the "norm" and the cycle continues and the children feel worthless. I didn't mean to insinuate that anyone should live that way and I apologize if I came across that way.