Penn State Sandusky scandal: AD arrested, Paterno, Spanier fired; coverup charged #6

[Pensfan]

Why thanks, Pensfan, glad you enjoyed the article, LOL!

Politics aside, I checked those 2 articles linked above and found the child predator unit was created in 2005 and has made the 298 arrests; nothing was mentioned that I saw about 100% convictions. This is about 50 cases per year, or a little over 5 per month, not very impressive when they are catching these people by computer, and nothing compared to the 20,000 that are sitting out there as unworked cases.

Geez, when I worked in CPS waaaay back, I got 4-5 cases per DAY which had to be investigated in the field (home visits, school visits, contacts with neighbors and other witnesses), decisions made, court reports written by hand, no computers available then, attend and testify at court hearings, transport and check on kids at shelters, take them to doctors, counseling parents, on and on. Then we were on call one weekend each month; I always got the full moon weekend and sometimes worked over 30 hours in 2 days and nights, but had to come to work Monday morning.

These guys got it easy as far as I'm concerned!

Are you going to run for that easy job of Attorney General of PA?

 

[Pensfan]

Why thanks, Pensfan, glad you enjoyed the article, LOL!

Politics aside, I checked those 2 articles linked above and found the child predator unit was created in 2005 and has made the 298 arrests; nothing was mentioned that I saw about 100% convictions.

bbm
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/sto...ficials-should-be/Kmst2IVCFkGkJ3A4zfG79Q.cspx

 

[mahmoo]

Snipped:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/jerry-sandusky-second-mile-frankie-probst-penn-state-scandal_n_1107163.html

What really gave me the heebie geebies from the video is that scrapbook Jer put together for Probst. Wonder if he gave it to him before the young man had started to try to distance himself from Sandusky or after. I also wonder if Dottie helped put the scrapbook together.....or even knew about it. It seems to have some 'soft, feminine' touches and reference in it. Here's a poem/quote from the scrapbook:

Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come sit softly on your shoulder

Seems like a strange quote for a grown man to be giving to a teen/pre-teen boy. I grabbed a few screen shots of the scrapbook shown in the video.

Also from interview with Probst:

Probst eventually began to pull away from Sandusky when Sandusky began to demand more and more of his time. Sandusky was also volunteering as a football coach at Probst’s high school, so Probst was seeing Sandusky nearly every day.

“I wasn’t seeing my friends as much, wasn’t doing as teenagers do,” Probst said.

When Probst began to distance himself, Sandusky would pull him out of class to chat with him. The chats eventually turned into arguments, Probst said.

This is the 2nd guy that we know of that Sandusky was pulling out of class.....the other is victim 1. Wonder what was so important he couldn't wait til after the boys got out of class to speak with them? It almost seems like he was desperate.....like a scorned lover would act.

 

[Concerned Papa]

No doubt that album is bizarre. I particularly noticed one of the last lines:

Remain loyal? Wonder what that admonition is all about?

I found this article while searching for information on Karen Probst, the principal of Central Mountain High School. IDK if it means anything, but I couldn't help but notice the same last name with this young man. Maybe it's a common name in that part of the country, IDK, but it struck me as odd nonetheless.

 

[Reader]

Prelim Primer: What Tuesday's Sandusky Hearing Will Hold

http://www.statecollege.com/news/lo...t-tuesdays-sandusky-hearing-will-hold-958127/

Excerpt:

•Q: Can I see the hearing on TV or read a transcript?

•A: Pennsylvania law prohibits broadcasting inside from its courtrooms. News reporters allowed to attend the hearing have been ordered to halt all electronic communication while they're inside the main courtroom and a secondary courtroom during the event. Mainstream media are expected to have extensive coverage of the proceedings as soon as they're able to distribute information, likely during recesses or breaks at the hearing. An official court transcript from the hearing will be posted on the Centre County government website once it's approved by involved parties. That transcript may not appear for some days after the hearing, court officials have said.

As for the mainstream media, as many as 200 journalists are expected to cover the proceedings directly. They'll be split between the courtroom where the hearing will be held -- Courtroom No. 1 in the Centre County Courthouse -- and an adjacent satellite courtroom where a live, closed-circuit feed will be available. About 100 members of the public are expected to attend, as well; they were chosen through a lottery process. A virtual tour of Courtroom No. 1 is available via StateCollege.com.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Margins completely blown again!

Do we have a code here for hiding large
pictures under a spoiler tag or something?

Or maybe just post the link?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

No doubt that album is bizarre. I particularly noticed one of the last lines:

Remain loyal? Wonder what that admonition is all about?

I found this article while searching for information on Karen Probst, the principal of Central Mountain High School. IDK if it means anything, but I couldn't help but notice the same last name with this young man. Maybe it's a common name in that part of the country, IDK, but it struck me as odd nonetheless.

You know I bet these books were presented at that little Victims Dinner Sandusky had after the investigation started.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Margins completely blown again!

Do we have a code here for hiding large
pictures under a spoiler tag or something?

Or maybe just post the link?

They did not blow for me. That is strange.

 

[Reader]

The margins are way out of whack for me also...

 

[Dr.Fessel]

The margins are way out of whack for me also...

I wonder why mine aren't? I am running windows xp.:waitasec: The other day a picture did blow them out.

 

[Concerned Papa]

I wonder why mine aren't? I am running windows xp.:waitasec: The other day a picture did blow them out.

What's weird is I've heard this margin complaint for years and I have no idea what anyone's talking about. Mine are always the same.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

What's weird is I've heard this margin complaint for years and I have no idea what anyone's talking about. Mine are always the same.

That is strange. I have had them so big there was a slider under the post you had to move to read it. Not today though.

 

[mahmoo]

The margins are way out of whack for me also...

:dunno: my margins are fine.

 

[Reader]

That's what I've got now...the page is actually 2 pages wide. I'm using windows XP also.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

:dunno: my margins are fine.

Maybe the reasons mine are ok is I am running firefox for a browser?

 

[1&2&3]

After viewing those pictures and seeing that scrapbook, it seems there ought to be enough evidence that Sandusky would do one thing right - admit he's guilty and give his victims the gift of freedom from testifying! I am dreaming! I am so sickened by this evil monster!!

Guess he figures he is going to spend the rest of his life in prison, so the longer he can stay out the better! Why grow a heart now?

 

[Quiche]

Omg, I'm actually caught up! Only took me all week, lol.

Thanks for all the wonderful sleuthing, guys-- it's going to be a fascinating week in Happy Valley.

 

[mahmoo]

Wonder if Jer has given scrapbooks to other boys? Wonder if he made scrapbooks for his own boys/daughter?

 

[Rlaub44]

This article indicates that there is a new version of McQueary's story, including that another physician who spoke with McQueary the night of the shower incident followed up with Schultz later to see what was done.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/another_version_of_mike_mcquea.html

"According to the source with knowledge of Dranov’s testimony before the grand jury, it went like this:

McQueary heard "sex sounds" and the shower running, and a young boy stuck his head around the corner of the shower stall, peering at McQueary as an adult arm reached around his waist and pulled him back out of view.".......


There is a whole lot more about this testimony that is not being said. As soon as a Grand Juror heard that they would have asked if a boy just poked his head around the corner how did he see an arm around the boys waist pull him back in?

IMO this guy lied to the Grand Jury and the Grand Jury ferreted it out. Remember they would have McQueary's father telling the same story as the son.

This Dr. was a mandatory reporter and is just playing CYA. The SA is not worried about this so called Dr.'s testimony. They already chewed him up in front of the Grand Jury. IMO

You may be right. Although, Schultz is the one charged with perjury, not Dr. Dranov or McQueary, so I wonder if the Grand Jurors gave more credence to the Dr's testimony.

There are so many pieces of the puzzle we just haven't seen yet; hopefully the upcoming hearings will shed more light on who really said and did what. Wouldn't it be great to read the actual transcripts of the grand jury testimony, instead of just the summary? Wishful thinking, I know.

 

[Pensfan]

"According to the source with knowledge of Dranov’s testimony before the grand jury, it went like this:

McQueary heard "sex sounds" and the shower running, and a young boy stuck his head around the corner of the shower stall, peering at McQueary as an adult arm reached around his waist and pulled him back out of view.".......


There is a whole lot more about this testimony that is not being said. As soon as a Grand Juror heard that they would have asked if a boy just poked his head around the corner how did he see an arm around the boys waist pull him back in?

IMO this guy lied to the Grand Jury and the Grand Jury ferreted it out. Remember they would have McQueary's father telling the same story as the son.

This Dr. was a mandatory reporter and is just playing CYA. The SA is not worried about this so called Dr.'s testimony. They already chewed him up in front of the Grand Jury. IMO

I think Sara Ganim has a unreliable unnamed source or McQueary changed his story after he told the family friend that he didn't see penetration.

"Dranov told grand jurors that he asked McQueary three times if he saw anything sexual, and three times McQueary said no, according to the source."

The nephrologist wouldn't have a reason to protect Sandusky and fail to report a rape. This could cause him to lose his medical license (8 years of college + 4 years of internal medicine residency + 2 years of nephrology fellowship training. That is 14 years of college and specialized training that could be lost and he appears to be under retirement age. Nope. Didn't happen.)

Also remember that this physician is a family friend and colleague of McQueary's dad, but he testified against McQueary if Sara's unnamed source is correct.