Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #16

[suzihawk]

Anita should be made to stay in room 309 of the Hotel Tac when she goes to visit her innocent and traumatized little boy.

 

[mck16]

Yes, I agree. It looks like that to me too. And then he does follow her. But then the video skips ahead and he's returning to the table from the other directions until she returns and they leave.

When she originally gets up from the table, she's on her way to cash in the chips. But at 3:04 of this video, it shows her cashing in her chips and he is not with her. So maybe he turned back at some point.

http://translate.google.com/transla...r-llaves-cuarto-donde-asesino-stephany-flores

Okay, I thought it was of them actually leaving the casino. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Bobarino]

Bobarino;

Thank you for the wine video, but, does that come in English? I cannot understand a word, felt like Hitler was speaking to me though the computer. Hahaha!

Oh that's Dutch. Never say that to a Dutchperson. They'll get mad as hell at being linked to Hitler and Nazi Germany. They were horribly invaded by surprise. Don't like Dutch t be compared to German. But yes the lingos are a bit similar.

You probably can find translations or subtitled videos of this on youtube, don't have one handy.

But watch Daddy VDS. He just stands there either emotionless or with a smirk.

They say that Anita immediately got after Joran to apologize. It took her some doing they say, but he finally did. (I saw or read De Vries comments in English a while ago.) I have written that he should have bee charged with assault, and possibly assault with a weapon (alcohol into the eyes.)

If it is true (above) about Anita, the father may have been more to blame for Joran's behavior, than the mother. Certainly known to have taught him to gamble--whch will be the end of Joran, and alas was for Stephany.

 

[FLNY]

Bobarino;

Thank you for the wine video, but, does that come in English? I cannot understand a word, felt like Hitler was speaking to me though the computer. Hahaha!

Here it is with English subtitles....notice how neither of his parents look at or say anything to him about the incident...just kind of ignore it completely...very telling of his upbringing!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZEM7ECohs[/ame]

 

[Nana46]

Bobarino that link is posted above...it is to the videos that PattyG has posted and the limp hand video should be in there...see my link above

 

[21merc7]

And I have to wonder why, with all the major news agencies chomping at the bit to get their hands on information, all this information is released to ROL. :waitasec:

Whomever offers the most money first, or money first at all. Radaronline has been trying to become something big for a few years now.

 

[annalia]

Here it is with English subtitles....notice how neither of his parents look at or say anything to him about the incident...just kind of ignore it completely...very telling of his upbringing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZEM7ECohs

Look at how smug he is and that was all Anita could muster up to say?
Who would do something like that first of all and then do it with your parents right there?

 

[21merc7]

A question for our more worldly wise.

Is throwing wine in someone's face a common practice? A common insult? Much like spitting on someone in the US used to be, hopefully no longer is?

 

[Bobarino]

Bobarino that link is posted above...it is to the videos that PattyG has posted and the limp hand video should be in there...see my link above

Well I found it on youtube:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnm8S0Zw5qo[/ame]

Should we call this the fake knocking video, or the attempted alibi video?

Anyway, at one point, we can see that left hand holding coffee cups, but there is glare or such. And I just can't tell if there is swelling at the pointer finger knuckle as this should be within minutes as I wrote above from braking it via a punch to someone's face or such.

 

[FLNY]

Look at how smug he is and that was all Anita could muster up to say?
Who would do something like that first of all and then do it with your parents right there?

The video also says that he was thinking of this during the interview, but once it was over, he could no longer control himself and threw the wine....once again show his lack of control over his anger.

 

[newone]

A question for our more worldly wise.

Is throwing wine in someone's face a common practice? A common insult? Much like spitting on someone in the US used to be, hopefully no longer is?

I have never seen it in action in real life -- but I do recall in "Moonstruck" - a sweet young thing threw a glass of something in a lothario's face

 

[Bobarino]

A question for our more worldly wise.

Is throwing wine in someone's face a common practice? A common insult? Much like spitting on someone in the US used to be, hopefully no longer is?

More than an insult--unlike saliva--alcohol is, or can be, damaging to the eyes. That's why I wrote about aggravated assault. Again he got lucky, but De Vries probably used this to get more fame himself.

Don't know if Dutch custom is unique about tossing such a thing into someone's face.

And again, I recall either reading (in English) or hearing DeVries in English, saying Anita, not the father, did get after him to apolgize, and after a long while--none of this shown--he finally did and the 2 shook hands.

 

[Bobarino]

The video also says that he was thinking of this during the interview, but once it was over, he could no longer control himself and threw the wine....once again show his lack of control over his anger.

Well I wrote about that as follows. It came as many here probably know, after Joran --pretending to be innocent--asked De vries, if he would apologize to him, if and when he is proven innocent (IIRC) or that he had just spoken the truth, and De Vries just replies something like, "I don't think you are" (IIRC) And Joran stares at him from then on, and tosses the wine after I guess he thinks the cameras stopped rolling.


I think if De Vries had been alone with Joran, and said what he did, he would have gotten his greatest and last scoop--his own murder.

 

[i.b.nora]

Here is the original Coffee Video:

http://translate.google.com/transla...r-llaves-cuarto-donde-asesino-stephany-flores

 

[PassTheMotrin]

Here it is with English subtitles....notice how neither of his parents look at or say anything to him about the incident...just kind of ignore it completely...very telling of his upbringing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZEM7ECohs

Thank you for posting that; I had not seen that video before. Love the quote from the woman helping Peter clean the wine off his face. She looked at JVDS's mother and said, "Nice job you did raising that kid!"

 

[Bobarino]

Here is the original Coffee Video:

http://translate.google.com/transla...r-llaves-cuarto-donde-asesino-stephany-flores

Thank you Nora.

It is a somewhat better video.

I still though cannot make out if there is swelling at the place in question. Can others look at that and comment please.

 

[Pink Panther]

Here it is with English subtitles....notice how neither of his parents look at or say anything to him about the incident...just kind of ignore it completely...very telling of his upbringing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZEM7ECohs

I can't tell who "mommy" and "daddy" are in this video. Can anyone else shed some light? I must say, I find it shocking and most certainly in keeping with scenarios that this monster remained consistently UN-accountable for...

Also...I am deeply disturbed every time I see a picture/video of this individual. I can't exactly say why but something about him bothers me and frightens me very much.

MOO

 

[PassTheMotrin]

I watched it again and cannot tell, either.

 

[Pink Panther]

Here it is with English subtitles....notice how neither of his parents look at or say anything to him about the incident...just kind of ignore it completely...very telling of his upbringing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZEM7ECohs

I can't tell who "mommy" and "daddy" are in this video. Can anyone else shed some light? I must say, I find it shocking and most certainly in keeping with scenarios that this monster remained consistently UN-accountable for...

Also...I am deeply disturbed every time I see a picture/video of this individual. I can't exactly say why but something about him bothers me and frightens me very much.

MOO

 

[legalmania]

A question for our more worldly wise.

Is throwing wine in someone's face a common practice? A common insult? Much like spitting on someone in the US used to be, hopefully no longer is?

It's right up there with throwing your shoes at someone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7782422.stm