songline
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:twocents::twocents:Sorry to bring it from another "closed" thread -- but I stand by the Peruvian charges --
1.) It was a rage killing; problably triggered by sexual rejection, her lesbianism, and her period. (He took off her pants and discovered the sanitary napkin.)
2.) The rage was not 100% aimed at Stephany, but a release of boundless suppressed rage, at his situation, life, women in general.
3.) It was a blitz attack - over in minutes - given the differences in size between the killer and the victim.
4.) The killing occurred early in their stay together.He spent time w/the corpse trying to figure out what to do.
5.) The coffee runs were attempts at staging and establishing an alibi.
6.) The robbery was incidental - she didn't have that much money with her - first accounts said 5000 soles - or about $1755. He paid as much to the taxi drivers, even gave them goods in kind. More $$ and he could have chartered a small plane and gone to Aruba. He was IMing money for a plane ticket.
7) Anita is probably key - she hasn't gone there AFAIK - she seems distant and uncaring. JVDS was probably closer to his dad.
8) I agree with Peruvian police - aggravated murder with simple robbery.
<I know all of us - even the poor Flores family (who are now claiming she had $10K) want LWOP - and he could get it in a jury trial - but in a judge panel as exist in most countries - they will go where the evidence takes them without a lot of emotion clouding this issue - at least in theory.>
There are two big mysteries now -- what happened to Natalee - the Stephany case is open and shut; and what was going on in the VDS household.
Although I think JVS had some serious mental problems, I still believe the parents turning a blind eye to the obvious problems belying Joran certainly enabled him. He should have been in counseling---along with the parents in trying to resolve these issues many years ago. Giving a teen a credit line at bars, clubs and casinos was certainly not doing anything constructive in changing his behavior. They were the adults in the situation and they made bad, bad choices. JVS was doing some pretty atrocious stuff when he was young --and would have no choice to go into therapy or off another gambling spree. JMO
Paulus chose to cover up for Joran--he can't blame that on anyone but himself. They were lax in disiplining and giving proper consistant direction to him and now cry foul. It's a pity and shame really.
There is a fine line between enabling and saying that a person is mentally ill. He seems to be mentally deranged.
Some mental pacients are briliant too.
Obviously mentally ill people are not evil but are really really sick.
Obviously while they should be incarcerated to keep the public safe. They should also be medicated. FAMILY WOULD CARE. Strangers would not. But if he needs to be medicated his mom should do whatever she can to get him medicated.