Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #6

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The last video I watched was of VDS walking into his room with her. If there are no other entrance into the room and the camera was outside his room, as it looked on the video, there is no question that he did this.

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BethK: they are looking at a few more places in Aruba now (possibly for other victims in Aruba)
BethK: I reached out to the FBI today, but told me because it is a pending investigation, they will not speak to it (Re the possibility that he is a serial killer, and there are other victims.)
 
Seriously?? I would never in a million years take off my pants esp. when menstruating with someone I just met and am not interested in romantically.

OMG I agree - who takes off their pants if they're not comfortable with their partner (and there's no proof in this case). Not to get too graphic, but I ended up with a hysterectomy after having such heavy periods. The last thing I wanted to do was take off my pants, as the pants kinda held it in -- know what I mean? Women need that protection -- tampons or pads.

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So was she raped? or did he stop after he got the pants off? and beat her up?
I believe he stopped after her pants were removed, she was fighting him, and "her condition" to him was disgusting (seeing that he wasn't going to be able to have sex with her) and he killed her. MOO
 
Did I see thw mattress completely 'removed' off the bed???
Why??? I thought 1 report sid it was knocked off the bed.........
 
Well good night all, Please let all the missing be found . Justice and peace to the families that suffer for their loss, and strength for the ones that are still searching.
 
Violence was the motive. Murder the goal. Sex would have been the benefit.


See I think it goes more like this;

They seem to be friends, buddies, no sexual tension.
I don't think this was her first time going to his room.
Just a feeling I get from the video and his body language.

I don't think violence or sex was his motive.
Just money.

She has told him about the laptop money.
He knows she has won some money playing cards.

She has been fighting with Dad, goes up to his room, they hang out.
There are five cigerrettes which would indicate she was there for a little while. She might have taken her own jeans off to sleep if Mr. Charming told her she could have the bed. You know what a good guy he is.

She wakes up to find him looking for her cash and credit cards. There is a confrontation, he hits her, knows in that moment he is F'ed. He has just assaulted a woman and with his past he knows this is huge problem, and he knows this is a daughter of privilege, he goes ballastic, blind rage, beats her to death.

To the sociopath that was his money, how dare she interfere with his plans, and now look at the mess she has made. I think that is the hatred you see in the beating, not sexual violence.

If they ruled out sexual assault they look for more than seminal fluid. There are abrasions and minor tears that happen in the process. And not to be graphic, but her pants were off, he clearly was able to overpower her, why isn't there signs of sexual assault?

She has her shirt and panties and pad on, sounds like sleeping clothes to me. But we will probably never know.
 
Dog the Bounty Hunter had some interesting things to say actually. Said that once, JVDS father died that he didn't have anyone to hold him back anymore, that he was a serial killer.
 
I believe he stopped after her pants were removed, she was fighting him, and "her condition" to him was disgusting (seeing that he wasn't going to be able to have sex with her) and he killed her. MOO
Thats reasonable, but he wouldn't have waited 3 hours to do that.imo
 
If we could enlarge it ;)

I don't think it could be enlarged from that video because to me it seemed to just move a little as she walked. I though perhaps it is one of those key chains purses where you can slip your key in the pants pocket and the little purse just dangles or the whole purse goes in the pocket.

Now that this little purse was identified in her room, then that confirms to me that I spotted it as she went to the casino.
 
Has anybody here ever picked up a guy and going to a hotel with him for any other reason than sex? We might need a poll on that subject.
Sorry we were the motel business here in Florida for 35 years. Lots of overnighters. LOL

When I was 21? Yes, I have been in peoples rooms that I did not go with them to have sex.

Those people were not "pick ups" though, they were people I thought of as friends.

I never went with anyone I thought was putting the moves on me if I wasn't sexually interested though. Not a big fan of that kind of situation!
 
Someone on either JBM or NG today speculated earlier reports of two coffee's may actually be two sodas. Citing translation. Personally I don't see where it would make much dif either way in the scheme of things.
 
Is it just me or is he really playing up for the camera's?

He looks like a murder!
 
Someone on either JBM or NG today speculated earlier reports of two coffee's may actually be two sodas. Personally I don't see where it would make much dif either way in the scheme of things.

I think they said two soda's and one coffee cup were found.
 
Did I see thw mattress completely 'removed' off the bed???
Why??? I thought 1 report sid it was knocked off the bed.........
Over the weekend, Mark Fuhrman had described an European style bed, with a wooden frame and the mattress off one corner of the bed, as if in the struggle it had slid off. MOO
 
Men do walk in front of women ....


I agree, but I think it indicates that he was not forcing or drugging her to be there. If he were, he would be behind her to make sure she didn't try to leave or communicate with the desk clerk for help...
 
i can't tell you how many times I knocked on a tenants door and it was answered by a girl in her underwear and t shirt, usually half hiding behind the door. Girls I had never seen before.
 
I think I am in information overload...on the video of the room...was that supposedly actually the room? The one where the bed was a tad askew and something on the night table,.....so did they kinda straighten up the bed after the body was removed and evidence collected??? Were there not still items on the bedside table? I am lost here someone help me out. Please,lol
 
Thats reasonable, but he wouldn't have waited 3 hours to do that.imo
No he wouldn't have, imo. When the reports were of her being fully clothed, I thought the primary motive was robbery, but now with these details I believe it was the same as he had with Natalee....

And, if he took her money, that was just a "bonus" for him. MOO!
 
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