POI: Carman Monaco, Jr.

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shadowraiths,

I respect your opinion, but I'm not too quick to completely dismiss Johnny Terry's report.

Firstly, I don't think he was just puffing himself up for the press because he said that he reported these calls to police. This leads me to believe that they actually occurred and that these calls are not merely a complete fabrication.

Secondly, you argued that the statement "I know where you be at" is not indicative of the vernacular of a white male. I agree, but realize that Johnny Terry is from the Bronx, and probably is not a white male himself. He probably talks like this, as many in the Bronx would. The way I interpreted this is that the caller probably said "I know where you live" or "I know where to find you", and Johnny Terry, upon recounting the story to the reporter, stated that the caller said "I know where you be at." The reporter took the statement down verbatim, and it is ambiguous whether or not the caller said that or this is just Johnny Terry's vernacular. I think its reasonable to assume that if indeed the caller had said it exactly like that, then Johnny Terry may not have so easily ascertained that it was "a white guy" on the other end of the line.

The whole "I know where you are" concept is strikingly similar to Carman Monaco Jr.'s statements:

On Dec. 4, 2004, he called Campbell, Hashagen and McDade to warn Campbell that if she went to the EAB ceremony, he would be there.

"I will be in the crowd," he said. "I will dump her in Manorville with all the rest of the *advertiser censored*."

As far as age, Johnny Terry didn't say "older" white guy with respect to the caller (he did with respect to the john). Regarding the caller, he just said "white guy". Amanda Barthelemy was the one who stated "older white guy" with respect to the caller. I've discussed on this thread previously that according to studies, people are generally very accurate when guessing age based purely on telephone voice. This is especially so when there are broad age categories to choose from, such as "younger, adult and older". Given that Amanda used the word "older", I think its reasonable to say that the SK is over say 40 years old.

Also, as far as intimidation of what he considers the "weaker" sex, I don't necessarily disagree. But let me point out that Carman Monaco Jr. threatened men, too.

"On Feb. 16, 2004, Monaco called News 12 anchor Doug Geed and warned him, "Stay off 'Long Island Extra.' I want Danielle Campbell to do 'Long Island Extra.' " He then threatened to "cut off" Campbell's breasts."

As far as the police follow-up with Johnny Terry on his offer to show him some john's house, I think its reasonable to assume that police were already aware of her regular customer on LI. They had probably already interviewed the john and decided he was just that - a regular customer or sugar daddy. It is very common for erotic dancers to have sugar daddies that have good relationships with them and take care of them financially, and I assume the same is true for online escorts. There was no need for police to follow-up on that particular "lead" since they already had ruled the guy out for one reason or another.

I also disagree that the SG "rehab" call somehow may provide any insight into the SK. First of all, there's a serious debate about whether or not Shannan even died from a homicide at all - a debate we do not have with respect to Melissa Barthelemy. Since this thread isn't meant to discuss SG, let me just refer to post #403 over here regarding the rehab call you mentioned:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157685&page=17

In the end, I just don't think there's enough to completely dismiss this report by Terry as false or useless. While I agree that taking the word of a person who was described by law enforcement as a pimp cannot and should not be blindly relied upon, I feel that there is enough credibility to this report to discuss them in the context of the calls to Amanda as well as the calls placed by Carman Monaco Jr.

BBM

This statement alone makes me wonder how he knew @ the bodies at MV. Had they already been reported?
 
I found this about the area where Carman lives. His house is 14 Pine Gate, East Patchogue, NY.

From: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The Pines&defid=4159556

"The Pines
A bad neighborhood located in Medford, New York.
The "Ghetto" part of Medford.
If you drive down to the Pines you will see streets littered with broken beer bottles, overgrown lawns, large old men drinking on their porches, etc. There are many teenage drunks and stoners there as well, and many other unsavory characters live in that neighborhood.

The Pines is known for its crime, the police are often called in for drugs, domestic violence, gang violence and for breaking up house parties.

It is called "The Pines" because many (but not all) street names end with the word "pine" (ex: Scotch Pine Drive, Pitchpine Place, etc.)

Certain parts of The Pines fall within the South Country School District, but a majority of the neighborhood is in the Patchogue-Medford School District. The "ghetto kids" from those districts are usually from the Pines.

There is a playground on Southaven Avenue, across from Silverpine Drive, called "Twelve Pines Park" it has basketball courts, a jungle gym and swings, however it is often empty, the only people using it being stoners using it as a place to get high, or skanky girls passing by."


My guess is that street prostitution is fairly common in this area. Can anyone find missing persons reports from 2000 (Jane Doe #6) or any links to transgendered prostitution in Medford?


I grew up in the next town (Patchogue) and still live close. this is a very poor description of this area. it most certainly not the "ghetto". Urban Dictionary entries can be altered/edited/created by any one. it is/was a typical suburban area in Suffolk county. it is a levitt housing development, there aren't prostitutes randomly roaming the streets there. there are a mix of neighbors and families with all the suburban pros and cons. that is not to say that kind of problem (drugs drinking domestics etc) cant be found there. Areas fairly close by have much bigger problems and might be considered more "ghetto". thanks, just my opinion.
 
Jane does sketch looks Eastern European. Especially the profile one.
 
Thanks for finding this shadowraiths. It strikes me as odd that 10 months after Jessica Taylor was identified as a prostitute and Manorville was in the news, that Carman is still talking about "*advertiser censored*" in Manorville:

From the NY Daily News article:
"On Dec. 4, 2004, he called Campbell, Hashagen and McDade to warn Campbell that if she went to the EAB ceremony, he would be there.

"I will be in the crowd," he said. "I will dump her in Manorville with all the rest of the *advertiser censored*."

Does anyone know if Manorville a regular topic in the news between Feb and Dec 2004?

Throwback: How did carmen Monaco know that the bodies dumped in manorville were "*advertiser censored*"? Had JT been identified yet? Could Monaco be privy to some info thru a friend?
 
shame-the thread started out very promising...then died off...perhaps it'd time to rekindle the fire....either that, or look at the other surgeon that used to live in OB, and abruptly moved out

Can we talk about this 'other surgeon' from OB?? I know nothing of a second one. Can anyone direct me to information about this person, perhaps it's on a thread I may have overlooked? TIA!
 
shame-the thread started out very promising...then died off...perhaps it'd time to rekindle the fire....either that, or look at the other surgeon that used to live in OB, and abruptly moved out

Can we talk about this 'other surgeon' from OB?? I know nothing of a second one. Can anyone direct me to information about this person, perhaps it's on a thread I may have overlooked? TIA!

Nobody...? Bueller...??
 
Nobody...? Bueller...??

I believe this is referring to a KU who gadget first looked at when a listing of his house showed a huge piece of burlap hanging on the wall (for boating?). The thing that interests me about this guy is i believe he relocated to NM near to where the west mesa bone collector operated
 
I think there was a posting about the other doctor in the summer of 2014.
 
I went back and reread some of these posts...ah the memories! Does anyone remember the radioshow with Truthspider and inspector gadget? There was a very strange dynamic and some very strange things were implied. I've never been able to figure out what was going on between the two. Does anyone have any insight?

gadget had a lot of interesting suspects way back. KU, Carmen, the duck hunter but truth spider was obsessed with Hackett. Why was truth spider implying gadget wasn't who he claimed on the radioshow?
 
Having been "bumped up", I just read through this whole thread and found it pretty compelling-- and disappointed it just stopped. So yes, any updates? Also might anyone have a link to the radio show (mentioned 2 above) that "truthspider " and "inspectrgadget" were on? And while I'm asking... anyone know how to contact "inspectr.."? Thanks!
 
I just got into this thread today and did not no about this guy, totally interesting!! I'm relatively new to WS and still need to learn more regarding the LISK. I also hope see more posts/info on this dude, such a twisty case....wow!
 
:bump:

Having just read this whole thread, I am disappointed that it fell off the radar. There are definitely a lot of compelling pieces potentially linking CMJ and I am curious if there are any updates. I did some light sleuthing but sadly found no new info.
 
Yeah, this guy looks like he can fit the bill rather well. But we can't know for certain until we find out new things about him.
 
He works(ed?) for a truck rental company (Hub Truck) from 2007 on, from what other sleuthers have found.
If you go back to old google map images , one of them there is a white truck captured on OBP ,if it is still there , I think it was 20o7 image but it could have been 2009.
 

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