Police asks help identifying the people in photos taken by murderer

[punklove]

Side by side.

 

[gaia227]

The fact that she was from Utah, and last seen in a VW Bug at the very time Bundy was in Utah pretty much locks Nancy Wilcox as a Bundy victim

I understand - hers was just the first Charley page profile I came across which listed and linked all of the other girls, most of who don't have such an obvious connection to Bundy.

I am just trying to help -like everyone else.

 

[JoeFromLB]

I understand - hers was just the first Charley page profile I came across which listed and linked all of the other girls, most of who don't have such an obvious connection to Bundy.

I am just trying to help -like everyone else.

Some of the victims of Ted Bundy were women he confessed to killing when he was about to be executed, but whose bodies have never been found. Nancy Wilcox was one of those women. Donna Gail Manson was another supposed Bundy victim, who I thought looked like one of the women in the Alcala photos.
Her body has also never been found.

 

[dsntslp]

See the jacket in this picture? http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01341.jpg
I think that same jacket is in a picture posted earlier in this thread.
The jacket has white fur traces all over it as if it is from a white dog or perhaps that white fur rug on the floor that we see the vacuum in pictures we think may be from Greenwich Village. The girl has really strange eye make-up almost like that is the point of the shot/picture.

I apologize, I do not have time to sleuth it right now, sleep is a must right now.

Somebody please find that jacket with the white hair all over it. Then it might be possible to match this same girls picture to the picture of the girl with the funny make-up and white hair all over the jacket. They may be one and the same.


ETA: Can we place that fur rug anywhere besides NY?

 

[carbuff]

See the jacket in this picture? http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01341.jpg
I think that same jacket is in a picture posted earlier in this thread.
The jacket has white fur traces all over it as if it is from a white dog or perhaps that white fur rug on the floor that we see the vacuum in in pictures we think may be from Greenwich Village. The girl has really strange eye make-up almost like that is the point of the shot/picture.

I apologize, I do not have time to sleuth it right now, sleep is a must right now.

Somebody please find that jacket with the white hair all over it. Then it might be possible to match this same girls picture to the picture of the girl with the funny make-up and white hair all over the jacket. They may be one and the same.


ETA: Can we place that fur rug anywhere besides NY?

This one?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/44.html

I don't see a coat in the picture with the girl with the eye makeup.

 

[dsntslp]

This one?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/44.html

Yes! Same coat? No button on the upper right (our left) just under the collar although to me it may look like it has been removed. Actually, that section of the coat does not show in the Seattle Times pic, just under the collar, it is out of view.

What about the remnants of the curls in the pic with the pony tail? Her hair is not naturally curly...

No, the girl with the hair on the jacket has bangs.

Thank you for finding the picture Carbuff.
G'night.

 

[petchie]

Yes! Same coat? No button on the upper right (our left) just under the collar although to me it may look like it has been removed. Actually, that section of the coat does not show in the Seattle Times pic, just under the collar, it is out of view.

That is a US Navy Pea coat. We have 2 here. One from WWII which is much heavier wool than the one issued to my husband in 1977. Other than the weight they look virtually the same even though they are 30 years apart in age.

And my college aged son has worn his Grandfathers pea coat (over 60 years old) every winter since 2005. The thing wears like iron.

 

[dsntslp]

Thanks Petchie.

Do you think it is the same coat in both pictures?

 

[dsntslp]

This one?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/44.html

I don't see a coat in the picture with the girl with the eye makeup.

In your link here, this same girl has a coat draped around her shoulders and the coat collar has white hairs all over it. Like hair from that rug we see in the vacuum pic or hair from a dog.

And in this picture there is a coat draped behind the girl. http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01341.jpg

Also, girl with glasses and coat draped behind her, see the white hairs on her brown sweater? (Which looks more like it might be a mans sweater to me, btw.)

Just trying to separate Greenwich Village pics out so we can try to establish some sort of time frame on at least some of the pictures.
If anybody sees any evidence of that white fur rug in any pictures beside Greenwich, that would lead us to believe he had that rug for other time periods, please do post it so I can drop this line of investigation.

 

[petchie]

Impossible to tell. It is the same style, but pea coats have been fashionable on and off for years. Usually the buttons are the giveaway. My knock off pea coat that I bought has silver buttons.

I know the lighter USN one my son wears (his dads) has the heavy plastic buttons with the anchor on them, not sure what buttons my FIL's coat has. Will have hime check since both coats are at school with him.

I cannot see the buttons on the one coat to compare the buttons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_p_coat_wiki.jpg

 

[petchie]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/46.html Album is Surrealistic Pillow- the second album by American psychedelic rock band Jefferson Airplane, released in February 1967.

Same Girl http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/47.html Same wooden box behind her

Which is in the same apartment as the girl with the coat over her shoulders http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/44.html Same box again


and again looks like the same apartment http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/50.html same stereo

And then this looks like the same door http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/48.html

And again the same apartment furniture http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/57.html


and the last one I can see in the same apartment http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/56.html

 

[dsntslp]

Thank you Petchie,
The only link/pic I question is the last one:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/56.html

Only because if I look at the background features in shadow, the way they are in the bookcase/shutter in a down position and a small door to the left etc that we see in Greenwich pic's with the the swing it seems to match.

 

[petchie]

Thank you Petchie,
The only link/pic I question is the last one:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/56.html

Only because if I look at the background features in shadow, the way they are in the bookcase/shutter in a down position and a small door to the left etc that we see in Greenwich pic's with the the swing it seems to match.

I thought the same until I realized it is actually the same girl as http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/57.html (shirt matches) and the same chest of drawers in the background as http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/47.html

 

[JoeFromLB]

Lynn Bernadette Luray? Missing from Long Beach, CA, at age 15 since 1964.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/luray_lynn.html

There are some similarities here, especially the eyes. The hair is different, however. She may have grown it longer and straightened it. I don't know...
The girl in Alcala's photo looks older than 15 to me. There are no details available of the circumstances of Luray's disappearance, other than "she may have traveled out of the area with an adult male". Was she a runaway?
Where was Alcala in August, 1964? The timeline I've seen has him in the Army between 1961-64, and then nothing until his graduation from UCLA in 1968.

 

[sillygilly]

Wow! that sure looks like a match to me. Good work!

 

[tatertot]

I had a similar calendar one year in the 1980s. IIRC it was a store giveaway and you slid the marker over the date. The one in the photo looks fairly useless for writing on because its colors are so dark.

There's luggage on the right side of the photo: a blue bag that looks like one my mom still has from the 1970s, a suitcase with a tie-on airline (or bus line?) tag, a black leather or vinyl jacket, and a white plastic drawstring bag with some logo on it that I can't make out. Maybe this photo was taken right after the girl in the photo arrived at the location.

ETA: This photo. http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00801.jpg

 

[carbuff]

I had a similar calendar one year in the 1980s. IIRC it was a store giveaway and you slid the marker over the date. The one in the photo looks fairly useless for writing on because its colors are so dark.

There's luggage on the right side of the photo: a blue bag that looks like one my mom still has from the 1970s, a suitcase with a tie-on airline (or bus line?) tag, a black leather or vinyl jacket, and a white plastic drawstring bag with some logo on it that I can't make out. Maybe this photo was taken right after the girl in the photo arrived at the location.

ETA: This photo. http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00801.jpg

Is that a jacket? It looks like a pair of fur-lined gloves or mittens to me -- jackets don't usually have those little white tags in the sleeves. But I think you're right that she just arrived. She hasn't been there for long -- only one cigarette in the ashtray and the drink on the shelf beside her, next to the calendar, is mostly full. (Looks like a beer in a glass mug.)

 

[tut med]

Does this person look similar to you guys?



http://doenetwork.org/cases/205ufca.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/photogalleries/localnews2011323273/69.html
http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00591.jpg

WOW-it is eerie

 

[tatertot]

Carbuff, you're right, those must be gloves with the tags in them. And while it's probably insignificant, she's using a small plate or saucer instead of a real ashtray, which would have notches molded into it to rest cigarettes on.

The orange tweed armchair looks pretty commonplace.

http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00801.jpg

*

Thanks to the vacuum afficionados at Vacuumland.org, we have an I.D. on the sweeper in this photo: http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00123.jpg

It is a Hoover Convertible Special Model 589 in "dusky lavender" and made from 1969 to 1971. Here's the thread if you want to see how they identified it (and as I posted there, I'm beyond impressed.)

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/THREADS/VINTAGE/8412.htm?4

 

[Mr. E]

Carbuff, you're right, those must be gloves with the tags in them. And while it's probably insignificant, she's using a small plate or saucer instead of a real ashtray, which would have notches molded into it to rest cigarettes on.

The orange tweed armchair looks pretty commonplace.

http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00801.jpg

*

Thanks to the vacuum afficionados at Vacuumland.org, we have an I.D. on the sweeper in this photo: http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00123.jpg

It is a Hoover Convertible Special Model 589 in "dusky lavender" and made from 1969 to 1971. Here's the thread if you want to see how they identified it (and as I posted there, I'm beyond impressed.)

http://www.vacuumland.org/TD/THREADS/VINTAGE/8412.htm?4

Wow, those people really know their vacuum cleaners. It's amazing to me that so many details and facts can be discovered from one slightly blurry photograph. Thumbs up!