Police find suspect Steven Stephens in Facebook Live homicide dead in Erie PA

[CARIIS]

That bird story is scary. And now there is a snake story. He said in the video he's always been a monster. I'm thinking we might start seeing more and maybe he was able to hide it. We know he stole money from someone at the casino. That murder seemed to bother him zero. I think he's just becoming free enough to let some evil show that has been in there and secretly acted on for a while.

As for the phone number- I posted earlier but things get lost. I saw a video of someone calling it. It is a females voice, but it mentions the company as the company he works for. That's the phone number. No way I woukd call it! Either a. Get caught up in a murder investigation or b. You just gave a murderer your phone number. No thanks.

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Not really sure but animal abuse is highly correlated with serial killing god what if he really does a murderoues past.

SO we have

-guns emerging later in the story
-animal abuse emerging later in the story
-a male at her office emerging later in the story
- a crime that could possibly provide food and money for escape
- intense issues with woman (mom)prevalent in serial killing
- addiction issues
- his "nice " YT videos ( for lack of a better word stopped about a year ago - nothing recent - spiral?

-monster never made any sense to me until the bird thing - thats socio pathetic stuff- if true-
- stealing money (casino) further erosion in decline
-leaving place to stay further sinking
-being homeless might be a motivator to do the car dealership if involved
--Easter is typically happy family time - alone fighting with mom
-After murdering someone he is telling people he loves them

IMO possibly a more ominous individual is emerging?

The snake thing I don't know that could indicate very early on issues! I cannot imagine terrorizing woman with snakes up there with can I get your door for you! Its either very odd thinking ( way to engage with females - ppretty out there) or very evil as it relates to getting off on traumatizing females

Remain hung up on dead - but some of stuff that is coming out slowly is making me a bit more concerned that his end game may be more what many of you have been saying for a while

The animal abuse is really .........

ALso, very surprised DV has not entered the story. - Who knows tho he had been with her since he was what 35, plenty of opportunity for that (DV) to be in fact, part of the past.

- It does appear he had kids

- lack of LE involvment is an oddity as well IMO.

- if anything about fire setting emerges run!

Ugh...................................................

 

[Spellbound]

I wonder what his financial circumstance is like... did he withdrawal a lot of money before these acts? I know he claims to have lost everything with gambling... but if we had any idea about his financial circumstance we can really see how planned or unplanned this was. Was his weapon legally purchased?


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About his troubled financial past: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/court_records_show_accused_fac.html

The gun was probably legal:
Steve “Stevie Steve” Stephens “has a valid concealed carry permit, Cleveland police spokeswoman Sgt. Jennifer Ciaccia said after a news conference Monday morning,” Cleveland.com reported.

According to The Daily Beast, Police Chief Calvin Williams said “guns were seized from a home in the city of Twinsburg, a suburb of Cleveland, that is listed in court records as the home occupied by Stephens and his girlfriend at the time, JL."

The chief didn’t release how many guns were seized or who they were registered to, the Daily Beast reports.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/steve...eveland-facebook-killer-graphic-video-update/

 

[CARIIS]

In the video he is talking to the camera as if he was speaking to someone in chat. Can you link me to where LE states it was not live?

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See FB timeline , earlier, they described a

live broadcast .

 

[Lost_Boy]

He definitely planned it out some being that he hasn't been caught yet. They saying on twitter if the guy had weed on him, that he would have been found and charged by now lmaooo. But yes its quite odd since he was live streaming and supposedly the cops and steven have talked on the phone.... but still haven't found him. Also isn't it weird many people reported seeing him in philly yet police said there was that was false. I actually don't think he's too far from cleveland and he shot himself already or he is getting help from someone and laying low, I'm sticking to the former, seems like he's more suicidal than shooting out of rage because if he was he would have shot way more people by now. I also don't think he shot those 15 people he reported to have killed in the video, it was just the older gentlemen.

 

[wallaby]

There are so many abandoned houses in Cleveland (rustbelt, industry gone) it's very possible someone could leave bodies in them (I read he said that he left bodies in an abandoned house). I wouldn't discount it.

 

[frisson]

I've read the whole thread, but I'm still a little confused. I don't have much to go on, but I don't think he killed himself. He is too into himself for that , it seems. He craves attention and he'll miss it if he's dead.

Also, isn't his FB account closed? Could he make another one? (Excuse my ignorance; I don't have FB.) Iow, he could have killed more people and had no way to post it or either had no need to post it. it doesn't mean he hasn't hurt or killed more innocent victims.

Harming that bird is a huge red flag. I hope that is not true, but I'm afraid that it is.

He does seem manic, as mentioned upthread, but OTOH he was capable of making some kind of plans. He's off the rails, but still able to function. (He has not been caught)

He has gas and food at least for the time being, apparently . Or he has cash to obtain these things.
Someone could be helping him, but I'm guessing he's a loner on this.

I'm also guessing he said that he had no money, but had a - probably small - stash.

I think perhaps he is hiding somewhere probably in plain sight. We, here at WS watch the news, but many people simply don't. I'm not faulting folks for not watching news bc - damn it it is hard to watch and sometimes becomes just too much to endure.

This is so horrific. I have no words. That poor elderly man having a walk on Easter. My thoughts and prayers go to his family.

It is just a gut feeling and I could be totally wrong , but I don't see this dude killing himself... at least not yet.

 

[Isabelle]

Hi, I've tried to look through so forgive me if I missed anyone talking about this. Stephens is driving a car that's new to him (hence the temp tags). I read he bought it at a dealership in Bedford.

The night before Mr Godwin was killed Trina and Michael Kuznik were shot and killed at a different Cleveland dealership (pretty near where Godwin was murdered). Local Cleveland press just now saying 2 cars and unamed things from office missing (cash?).

My immediate thought was did Stephens look there when shopping for a car, could he have ties to or a grudge against this couple (he has bad credit, maybe he was turned down financing)? I hope they are looking into it.

As of now police say they have no idea and no leads as to who killed the Kuznik's. Seems like it's important to figure out if Stephen's involved as he could have cash and other vehicles if so!

Maybe LE will compare the bullets used to kill all 3 people. Let's hope so.

 

[Dogface]

I think it's important to note, there are random murders everyday. With killers who aren't caught. I think the police want nothing more to apprehend this man, quickly and without any further death. I think for everyone, this one is so emotionally charged because there is video of it. It makes me think of the ice pick murderer from Canada, who filmed himself murdering someone, but it was sleuths who essentially discovered who he was. This isn't CSI, and unfortunately, if someone goes into hiding, it can be hard to find. Like the guy who shot the police woman in Florida. He wasn't even far. But a slip up got him caught. This guy is either dead or hiding, if he is hiding, he will slip up eventually.


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[Isabelle]

Not all criminals have psychotic break. Psychotic does not often cause violence.

This one sounds like he planned it.

His statement on the tape confirms premeditated to me.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

I find the "Steve really is a nice guy" part to be in poor taste considering the circumstances, moo.

Sorry, rubs me the wrong way. I do feel for her and it's great she sent her prayers to the family but IMO she should have left that part out about him really being a nice guy. Don't everyone throw stones at me. Moo.

If she told news organizations that he was a mentally-disturbed , he could become more homicidal. Whether or not she believed he was a nice guy, she said the right thing to not incite him to further escalate.

 

[Bravo]

If she told news organizations that he was a mentally-disturbed , he could become more homicidal. Whether or not she believed he was a nice guy, she said the right thing to not incite him to further escalate.

Agree

 

[Lauranyc83]

If she told news organizations that he was a mentally-disturbed , he could become more homicidal. Whether or not she believed he was a nice guy, she said the right thing to not incite him to further escalate.

Agreed. And perhaps he is a nice guy. People have mental breakdowns. Everyone so far has said he was a nice guy. If a family member of mine did something like this, I wouldn't say they were a . If all my life they were nice, then snapped, it doesn't automatically make that person a . Jmo.

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[carbuff]

Hilton and Ridgway were nice guys, too, when they wanted to be or thought they could get something from it.

I think some of keeping the search low key is deliberate. It sounds to me like he was planning to end it with a big high-publicity suicide by cop, and they're thwarting that.

 

[Bravo]

IMO more will come out about this guy. We have heard the bird story posted up thread. Many times we hear more once the person has been caught. No way I would be saying anything negative knowing he is out there.

 

[Betty P]

Presser on right now:

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/clev...used-facebook-killer-steve-stephens/432097125

Getting lots of tips from across the US

FBI & US Marshall's also talking

Does not have any tracking capability on his car

They're using every tool they have to find him

Not in US Marshall's top 10, but they're doing all they can to find him

Either he's dead or someone is helping him out, holed up somewhere

Leads from as far away as Texas

Tips call: 1-800-CALL-FBI

Taken all measures to make sure he doesn't leave the country.

Secret Service, every federal agency, is involved in this investigation

Confident there are no more victims, but are still continuing to search

Most tips are sightings of him or vehicle

Have knowledge of devices he has and are investigating accordingly

Using every investigative tool at their disposal from federal level down

Good relationship with all the social media outlets

Will do these briefings as long as it's of public benefit

Call 1-800-CALL-FBI

 

[wallaby]

I feel like his family's response (posting he's no longer part of their family) was probably not what law enforcement wanted them to do, and was just done spur of the moment as a reaction on their own. The statements by his ex-girlfriend and Mr Godwin's family sound to me like what law enforcement would tell them to say.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

What did he do to a bird? I looked upthread and couldn't find this answer.

 

[Guinevere]

:websleuther:
Re-watched this video (Video #1). Toward the end is where he states location and a declaration where he supposedly has "people".

Here is a screen cap of the first location which is 108 & Cedar. He states an abandoned house in this area?

Next he mentions a the church is off 80 Road? No luck so far in my search for Purple & Gold Churches in the Cleveland area. Can't find an 80 Road. There is one church I can find on 80th Street? It is St. Lawrence Church which is permanently closed. Again he says there is an abandoned house there.

Last he says 42nd & Payne. He has somebody there. As far as I could see there is No such location as a 42nd & Payne? :thinking:

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[Betty P]

I've read the whole thread, but I'm still a little confused. I don't have much to go on, but I don't think he killed himself. He is too into himself for that , it seems. He craves attention and he'll miss it if he's dead.

Also, isn't his FB account closed? Could he make another one? (Excuse my ignorance; I don't have FB.) Iow, he could have killed more people and had no way to post it or either had no need to post it. it doesn't mean he hasn't hurt or killed more innocent victims.

Harming that bird is a huge red flag. I hope that is not true, but I'm afraid that it is.

He does seem manic, as mentioned upthread, but OTOH he was capable of making some kind of plans. He's off the rails, but still able to function. (He has not been caught)

He has gas and food at least for the time being, apparently . Or he has cash to obtain these things.
Someone could be helping him, but I'm guessing he's a loner on this.

I'm also guessing he said that he had no money, but had a - probably small - stash.

I think perhaps he is hiding somewhere probably in plain sight. We, here at WS watch the news, but many people simply don't. I'm not faulting folks for not watching news bc - damn it it is hard to watch and sometimes becomes just too much to endure.

This is so horrific. I have no words. That poor elderly man having a walk on Easter. My thoughts and prayers go to his family.

It is just a gut feeling and I could be totally wrong , but I don't see this dude killing himself... at least not yet.

You're not alone. FBI & US Marshall just said at their presser that one option they're considering is that someone is helping him hide. Other option is suicide. JMO, but I have a feeling they're looking into his friends and acquaintances to make sure no one is helping him. Not an unrealistic assumption to make.

 

[Guinevere]

[h=1]No threats of violence, misconduct in Steve Stephens’ work history at behavioral health facility[/h]POSTED 9:01 AM, APRIL 18, 2017, BY FOX8WEBCENTRAL, UPDATED AT 09:03AM, APRIL 18, 2017

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"Beech Brook was closed Monday out of concern for staff, clients and visitors. But it was set to reopen today with additional security measures in place."

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http://fox8.com/2017/04/18/no-threats-of-violence-misconduct-in-steve-stephens-work-history-at-behavioral-health-facility/

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