The McCann case out of the UK/Portugal wrote the book on raising money from missing children...generating a couple of million USD in the first few months and even more in subsequent months.
please let me know Oregonites (or is it Oregonians?).
Kimberdoll:
If I'm not mistaken, an insurance payout will not occur if the holder commits suicide. I think this is fairly well-known (re: Terri would probably know this).
Kimberdoll:
If I'm not mistaken, an insurance payout will not occur if the holder commits suicide. I think this is fairly well-known (re: Terri would probably know this).
Q - if Terri did this and had "partner" (lawnman) , that infact took Kyron out of the school while Terri waited somewhere, can Kaine sue the school?
also, I would like to know if Kaine can sue the school, if Terri was the one that snuck him out...
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If it was Terri, I assume she had authority to take Kyron out...if it anyone but Terri, I think Kaine would have a case.
I just don't see an accomplice here and can't make myself find a way to think she had one, if it is in fact Terri. To me it is too big of a risk, favor, whatever you want to call it, for her to find anyone to go along with such a plot. And far easier for her to take Kyron out, one way or another, than risk having Kyron seen with a stranger who just might talk if caught.
I'm not ready to lean towards an accomplice just yet, either. Can't help but feel if there was one, they would have been found by now? True, we don't know what LE knows at this point, either.
Theres also the risk the accomplice would betray you and turn you in. I can't think of anything that Terri has that would entice an accomplice to keep quiet? With the noose tightening around Terri's neck, would she risk naming the accomplice in a way to make it seem the accomplice was fully responsible? That this person took over her plan of 'temporarily stashing' Kyron and it got out of hand? The tables turned and now she's equally a victim like Kyron?
Ok...here's my theory.
I think that she always found Kyron to be a burden, but had done her duty (although resented it) for years. I think she had been dismissive towards Kyron, and was emotionally cruel towards him in private. She probably played hot & cold with him as it suited her, and toyed with his gullibility... (snipped)
And now that it is done with I think she's thinking about all the things she should have done differently and wondering if she'll get caught and that's about it.
But it has been reported that she was willing to have an accomplice to help with her husband's murder. So to me, its obvious that she's willing to seek out help to get the end result.
I am trying to think about myself. When I took my young children to school, I most often spoke to the parents first before speaking to their little ones. It was the parents I noticed first....then their children. Perhaps she realized that someone might notice her leaving with Kyron before they would pay attention to a stranger leaving with him. Not sure though....
I just saw this thread and now realize this is probably the best place to aggregate my thoughts about this case.
From a post of mine yesterday:
It's all starting to make sense to me.
As per a scenerio mentioned previously in these threads and elsewhere, money was the motive. Not Kaine's life insurance, but a payout from the school district for a lost - and ultimately 'found dead' - kid. In this scenerio, Terri, possibly with the help of others, arranged Kyron's dissappearance from the school, with the intention of having it appear as if he wandered away on his own. The next step would be setting up the discovery of his body, with scene set up so it would appear Kyron's death was secondary to drowning, exposure, or some other plausibile accidental or natural cause. I would assume that Kaine was not 'in' on this plan, but anything is possible.
Ultimately, Kyron's family would be awarded a multimillion dollar settlement by the school district. Now, if all of the above has transpired as Terri had hoped, phase two of Terri's plan is set in motion. This part of her plan is to eliminate Kaine, leaving her and her two children wealthy and Terri once-again single. The hit man presumedly was contacted early-on so that he or she could possibly play a support role in the Kyron's dissappearance - or maybe Terri anticipated the public scrutiny and possible LE survellience that might be directed at her/the family after Kyron's dissapearance and just wanted to set her plan up well in advance. The hit-man would likely be informed by Terri that Kyron's dissapearance is part of the bigger plan, and that the hit should only take place if the plan is successful up to that point. If all transpires as Terri has planned, she then pays off the hit-man with her new fortune (or maybe the hitman also has an 'accident').
Unfortunately, Terri's plan falls apart sometime after Kyron dissappears. Maybe there are glitches in Kyron's removal from the school. Maybe Kyron's death does not go according to plan. Maybe people are unexpectedly present at her intended 'dump' site. Maybe Terri loses the support of an accomplice. Something doesn't go right and the plan falls apart. Kyron's body is then hidden, possible at location chosen 'just in case' - or, alternatively, an accomplice is tasked with disposing of Kyron at a remote location, ultimately well outside of the search zone.
The gardener/hit-man may have been awaiting his cue to move into action, provided that the plan transpired as Terri hoped it would. Well, according to this scenario, Terri's plan obviously did not transpire as she had hoped, and LE found the gardener/hit-man. At this point LE hatches a plan: the hit-man contacts Terri about what to do next - or about the possibility of a little hush-money. Of course he'd be wired and their conversation recorded. [I'm not sue why the presence of an undercover officer was felt neccessary by LE.] As has been reported, Terri cut the exchange short, possibly because Terri suspected a set-up by LE. Alternatively, Terri may not have suspected a set-up by LE, but nonetheless most certainly did not want any contact with the hit-man-to-be. Even if the latter was the case, and Terri did not know the meeting was set-up, the cat is out of the bag now. Meanwhile, Kaine is informed by LE, likely days in advance, and makes his planned departure with the infant daughter, and subsequently get's the RO and files for divorce.
With regard to Kyron's removal from the school (also from an earlier post of mine):
I'm thinking Terri focused her effort on making it appear to those within the school (teachers, students, other parents, etc.) that she was leaving without Kyron, but her exit with him in the truck was designed to jibe with the doctor's appt scenerio. She probably instructed Kyron to meet her outside so she could take him to his doctor's appt. If Terri suspects that Kyron is observed re-uniting with her at the truck his 'dissappearance' doesn't happen and the plan is put on hold - she can drive Kyron around the block and fake a call to the Dr.'s office: "Oh the appointment has to be cancelled? Oh yes, that's alright...Hey Kyron, whaddaya say we go get a quick bite to eat?" - then drop him back off at school.
If she's successful at getting Kyron (still alive and under the impression he's going to the doctor's) out of the school, she then can carry out her plan to make it appear he's dissappeared from school.
What do we know about TH?
Is she still a heavy drinker?
Looking a pictures on the news TH still had a thin shape after
delivering her baby.But in 18 months I noticed she left herself go........drinking?
May I add to your theory:I really dont think she had an accomplise,,she tryed to get help before without much luck and also people would notice a strange man or women lurking around without a kid !!!
BBM - I wanted to post this observation earlier, but it didn't seem appropriate.
However, in light of recent news (divorce, RO, alleged murder-for-hire), I think that her RECENT weight change could have something to do with poor Kyron's disappearance.
My theory isn't much different than most on this thread, but I do think that there is something to her WEIGHT GAIN.
I noticed immediately that pictures with her right after Baby K. was born, she was still quite fit. From the pictures, she didn't let herself get out of shape until quite recently.
Passionflower's quote above was posted on the thread about TMH's DUI, and wonders if drinking (IMO recent, heavy drinking, if so) could play a role... I would add to that the many prescription meds (esp for mood disorders) that cause you to put on weight rapidly.
Some of these meds have been alleged to cause suicidal thoughts/actions, and unfortunately I know from experience how some can react "badly" (to put it mildly) with certain personality types...
That being said, my theory is not that TMH has mental issues (indeed she may have) but that a particular combo of prescription meds and/or drinking and/or drugs could very well have helped move TMH into action.:waitasec:
That's all I have so far.:blushing: