Poll: Was Shannan Gilbert Murdered?

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Was Shannan Gilbert Murdered?

  • Yes, and I have a POI in mind (and he's among those who can be talked about at WS)

    Votes: 33 14.3%
  • Yes, and I have a POI in mind (though he's not presently among those who can be talked about here)

    Votes: 15 6.5%
  • Yes, I think she was, and I have some theories, but no specific person in mind.

    Votes: 59 25.5%
  • If I had to guess, I'd guess that "yes", she was murdered.

    Votes: 65 28.1%
  • If I had to guess, I'd guess that "no", she was not murdered.

    Votes: 32 13.9%
  • No, I firmly believe (think) Shannan Gilbert was not murdered.

    Votes: 27 11.7%

  • Total voters
    231
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To make matters even more interesting, it appears as if JB & TB's immediate female relative (LNBS) lives in Ft Myers, Fl, now. It appears that both she and their father are from the Bronx. Web Searches show TB as having lived in ft Myers, too.
 
LOL, I had wondered why no one had brought this up yet (snipped for space)I agree that it is most likely a coincednce, but still, nothing wrong with chasing coincedences right? not like contacting them and asking them if they are connected...lol

It appears this remark is in reference to my comment about contacting someone mentioned by Ms Lohan as having been on a friend list on JB's FB that has the same last name as CPH. I didn't get why it struck you as funny. Tell me you never did the same as have others? It's not wrong to research but is wrong to link where there is no real link. TOS rules to paraphrase, a suspects FB friends are off limits.

Before a new series of "connecting dots" took a life of it's own, I figured it best to do what many ppl do thru FB & that is to ask that person if they are related to a name I know NOT asking if they are "connected" to anything other than a name relation. No mention of the case in any manner. My FB friends & thru their friends share friends with the same names as JB'S if you dig deep enough. Coincidences are just that & the probability of knowing someone thru someone somewhere in the world is likely. Regardless if related, they are off limits.

I am prone to researching info posted for it's authenticity & if inaccurate, bringing light to the matter. Sooner is better than later to prevent harm to a person's reputation.

"Veritas odit moras," = "Truth hates delay"*

Having experienced people using my info because of "chasing coincidences", I am very sensitive about others linking names to a case that shouldn't be.

"Are coincidences evidence of the coziness of the universe, or the quirkiness of our minds?"


:peace::peace::peace:
 
It appears this remark is in reference to my comment about contacting someone mentioned by Ms Lohan as having been on a friend list on JB's FB that has the same last name as CPH. I didn't get why it struck you as funny. Tell me you never did the same as have others? It's not wrong to research but is wrong to link where there is no real link. TOS rules to paraphrase, a suspects FB friends are off limits.

Before a new series of "connecting dots" took a life of it's own, I figured it best to do what many ppl do thru FB & that is to ask that person if they are related to a name I know NOT asking if they are "connected" to anything other than a name relation. No mention of the case in any manner. My FB friends & thru their friends share friends with the same names as JB'S if you dig deep enough. Coincidences are just that & the probability of knowing someone thru someone somewhere in the world is likely. Regardless if related, they are off limits.

I am prone to researching info posted for it's authenticity & if inaccurate, bringing light to the matter. Sooner is better than later to prevent harm to a person's reputation.

"Veritas odit moras," = "Truth hates delay"*

Having experienced people using my info because of "chasing coincidences", I am very sensitive about others linking names to a case that shouldn't be.

"Are coincidences evidence of the coziness of the universe, or the quirkiness of our minds?"


:peace::peace::peace:

Excellent post.
 
What's the missing link between Dr. Hackett's phone call about a home for a wayward women and Vision Ministries Open Arms home for wayward pregnant women?
 
What's the missing link between Dr. Hackett's phone call about a home for a wayward women and Vision Ministries Open Arms home for wayward pregnant women?

I'd guess there is no link. More interesting for a possible link along those lines would be with Oak Beach resident SY - but in the end I don't think there would be any link there either.
 
But why the Dr. Hackett call...did he call or did someone spoof him? The most logical explanation is that Dr. Hackett called Shannan's mom but it's not impossible that someone pretended to be him. If so why...and if he did call...why the home for wayward girls? There was the sy thing on usasexguide
 
I would even venture to theorize there might be an Pak SY connection. Pak's arrest for misusing a passport and SY's usasexguide post (which was about procuring escorts in foreign country for tourist) they both reek of human trafficking
 
But why the Dr. Hackett call...did he call or did someone spoof him? The most logical explanation is that Dr. Hackett called Shannan's mom but it's not impossible that someone pretended to be him. If so why...and if he did call...why the home for wayward girls? There was the sy thing on usasexguide


If my memory is correct, he never said anything about a home for wayward girls. Allegedly, it was a drug treatment program, and/or something about him treating her for drug addiction that he (or whomever made the call) discussed.
 
CPH did call Mari. He lied about it, then admitted it when confronted by a reporter. Phone records show that he did, in fact, call Mari. And from his wife's phone, if memory serves.

No one impersonated him...it was him. Plain and simple.
 
If my memory is correct, he never said anything about a home for wayward girls. Allegedly, it was a drug treatment program, and/or something about him treating her for drug addiction that he (or whomever made the call) discussed.

No dr Hackett said he ran a home for wayward girls FROM HIS HOUSE at Oak Beach and Shannan had stayed with him and left with her driver. If Dr. Hackett did make this call then he's obviously in with the killer.
 
No dr Hackett said he ran a home for wayward girls FROM HIS HOUSE at Oak Beach and Shannan had stayed with him and left with her driver. If Dr. Hackett did make this call then he's obviously in with the killer.

Just to be very clear, SG's mom CLAIMS that CPH said that. CPH's stance is that he never said anything like that and only called MG at the request of MP and SG's boyfriend.
 
It's my opinion that that must coincide with what MP and SG's boyfriend said to police or the Suffolk police would have been all over CPH about it.
 
Is two thats in a row like that ok in the english language?
 
Is two thats in a row like that ok in the english language?

Haha....yep! It's fine, though it sounds better than it reads. Writers may choose something that's less awkward on the page. It's an excellent point, as well - it's what Mari says CPH said.
 
No dr Hackett said he ran a home for wayward girls FROM HIS HOUSE at Oak Beach and Shannan had stayed with him and left with her driver. If Dr. Hackett did make this call then he's obviously in with the killer.

Or he is the killer. Or he's not the killer, but rather just someone who likes to insert himself where he doesn't belong. Or perhaps he's both. Lots of possibilities here, and you'd be wise not to jump to immediate conclusions.

* side note * Do I get a special prize for not sharing my personal opinion about which category the good doctor fits into? ;)
 
I was on OP today. I pulled over by the OB and peered into the brush. That crap is thick.
 
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