Possible Victim: Fire Island Jane Doe, UP9098, found Davis Park Apr 1996 & Ocean Parkway Apr 2011 - Karen Vergata

[LINative13]

Dr. Yvonne I. Milewski,*Suffolk
's medical examiner, said her agency is "aware of carbon-14 dating techniques, their potential uses and limitations."

"We cannot comment on the ongoing Gilgo investigations," she said. "These techniques do not establish a specific identification. As a general policy, the medical examiner's office would consider pursuing any scientific method that could potentially provide additional information, and possibly assist in a criminal investigation."

So if I'm understanding correctly from what I read. It is up to the ME whether or not to use such technology.

Perhaps a few letters to her office might make it happen?

Right on man.

 

[Justiceforever]

Right on man.

Woman ; )))

I will write one...long as I can send it via e mail. Maybe a dumb question but how do I find out the MEs e mail address? Lol some sleuth I am! ; ))

 

[WI1987]

Woman ; )))

I will write one...long as I can send it via e mail. Maybe a dumb question but how do I find out the MEs e mail address? Lol some sleuth I am! ; ))

www.suffolkcountyny.gov/departments/healthservices/medicalexaminer.aspx#ContactUs

Here you go, good luck getting results.

 

[Justiceforever]

www.suffolkcountyny.gov/departments/healthservices/medicalexaminer.aspx#ContactUs

Here you go, good luck getting results.

Thanks : ))

 

[deedee21]

Mysterymom, Thanks. I thought her remains were found on a barrier Island.

 

[mysterymom7]

Mysterymom, Thanks. I thought her remains were found on a barrier Island.

I believe it may have been closer to south of where it says Great South Bay. Maybe a local can confirm a more accurate location for us?

 

[Justiceforever]

On another thread Inspectorgadet said that he thought Jane Doe 9098 was a victim of Robert Shulman. I have to ask if anyone knows what became of his brother who was indicted on hindering the prosecution and imporoperly disposing of a body. He was released on bail after turning himself in. I can't find anything else about him. Was he convicted? Did he do time? Where is Barry Shulman now? Could any of the other dismembered bodies be related to RS?

 

[Just K]

On another thread Inspectorgadet said that he thought Jane Doe 9098 was a victim of Robert Shulman. I have to ask if anyone knows what became of his brother who was indicted on hindering the prosecution and imporoperly disposing of a body. He was released on bail after turning himself in. I can't find anything else about him. Was he convicted? Did he do time? Where is Barry Shulman now? Could any of the other dismembered bodies be related to RS?

Last info I found on him: Long Beach residence, LI, NY...other than that there was little to no info.

 

[Justiceforever]

Last info I found on him: Long Beach residence, LI, NY...other than that there was little to no info.

RS could be responsible for some of the Manorville victims, like the UID ones. We don't know when they went missing. It was just a thought. I mean he was charged for similar crimes and how many people can there possibly be in the same area that dismember people? I know BS was said to have only helped dispose of the bodies but I have to wonder about that!

 

[Samantha Spade]

http://m.denverpost.com/denverpost/pm_9034/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=mLvo8GE2

This article discusses teenage serial killers who dismember their victims.

Oops, belongs in the other thread.

 

[Just K]

http://m.denverpost.com/denverpost/pm_9034/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=mLvo8GE2

This article discusses teenage serial killers who dismember their victims.

Oops, belongs in the other thread.

Samantha, it is relevant in the sense that they both (Manorville and CO killer) both dismember victims. In CO we know AS confessed...maybe there is something in his psyche that corresponds to Manorville killer.

 

[Justiceforever]

Someone help me out PLEASE I get hopelessly confused when it comes to the JDs. Who is the mother of the child JD 9098 or JD #6?

 

[fieldnotes]

Someone help me out PLEASE I get hopelessly confused when it comes to the JDs. Who is the mother of the child JD 9098 or JD #6?

Neither. The mother is the one found on Nassau side by the tower in a black plastic bag with the X and O bracelet.

 

[Justiceforever]

Neither. The mother is the one found on Nassau side by the tower in a black plastic bag with the X and O bracelet.

Thanks FNs How do they refer to her?

 

[fieldnotes]

Thanks FNs How do they refer to her?

I don't think she was ever officially assigned a number like that-- tho it's basically JD 9 or 10. This article breaks it down pretty good.

http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/12/08/red-herrings-among-tips-in-serial-killer-case/

And I don't believe there's a head. Just the "uppers." Rumor has it she was slightly buried.

 

[Justiceforever]

I don't think she was ever officially assigned a number like that-- tho it's basically JD 9 or 10. This article breaks it down pretty good.

http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/12/08/red-herrings-among-tips-in-serial-killer-case/

And I don't believe there's a head. Just the "uppers." Rumor has it she was slightly buried.

I noticed in that article they don't give a gender for jane doe # 6

"Jane Doe No. 6: Body found Nov. 19, 2000 in Manorville; head and limbs found in Cedar Beach on April 4, 2011."

Do they know the gender?

 

[fieldnotes]

I noticed in that article they don't give a sex for jane doe # 6

"Jane Doe No. 6: Body found Nov. 19, 2000 in Manorville; head and limbs found in Cedar Beach on April 4, 2011."

Do they know the gender?

Yep here she is:

https://identifyus.org/cases/9680

 

[Justiceforever]

Yep here she is:

https://identifyus.org/cases/9680

okay I think I'm getting them straight in my mind now. Thanks so much FNs!

 

[CriminalMinds]

On another thread Inspectorgadet said that he thought Jane Doe 9098 was a victim of Robert Shulman. I have to ask if anyone knows what became of his brother who was indicted on hindering the prosecution and imporoperly disposing of a body. He was released on bail after turning himself in. I can't find anything else about him. Was he convicted? Did he do time? Where is Barry Shulman now? Could any of the other dismembered bodies be related to RS?

sidenote:although for obvious reasons Shulman is considered to be a dismembering sk, they don't always dismember all of their victims--I only mention this because I have always wondered about Colleen Mcnamee possibly being tied to him--timeline fits, but she was not dismembered-BUT the one thing that jumped out for me was the fact that her parents said they last saw her get into a small BLUE car with a "friend" that morning-Shulman drove his brother's BLUE caddy, and although a caddy, it wasn't a boat, but a smaller model version seville I believe--and if she is tied to him, by default and the investigating detective's own words "that they are tied together, killed by the same killer", then Rita Tangredi-Beinlich( I think that is her name) is his victim as well---Seems like if you showed Colleen's dad dad a picture of shulman's car he would know right away if that was it-I am sure he will never forget it

 

[Justiceforever]

sidenote:although for obvious reasons Shulman is considered to be a dismembering sk, they don't always dismember all of their victims--I only mention this because I have always wondered about Colleen Mcnamee possibly being tied to him--timeline fits, but she was not dismembered-BUT the one thing that jumped out for me was the fact that her parents said they last saw her get into a small BLUE car with a "friend" that morning-Shulman drove his brother's BLUE caddy, and although a caddy, it wasn't a boat, but a smaller model version seville I believe--and if she is tied to him, by default and the investigating detective's own words "that they are tied together, killed by the same killer", then Rita Tangredi-Beinlich( I think that is her name) is his victim as well---Seems like if you showed Colleen's dad dad a picture of shulman's car he would know right away if that was it-I am sure he will never forget it

I'll have to get up to speed on his victims. You seem to know a bit about the case. Do you
think that Jane doe 9098 could be a victim of RS?