Possible Victim: Fire Island Jane Doe, UP9098, found Davis Park Apr 1996 & Ocean Parkway Apr 2011 - Karen Vergata

[SageRhiannon]

Do they know or are they incompetent?

Sadly, it could be either way with them.

 

[Orville Butch]

Sadly, it could be either way with them.

The correct answer was both :laughcry:

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Has Debra Southerly been considered for this Jane Doe? I can hardly find any information on her, but the resemblance between her picture and the sketch is considerable.

 

[deedee21]

Has Debra Southerly been considered for this Jane Doe? I can hardly find any information on her, but the resemblance between her picture and the sketch is considerable.

It appears shes not in NAMUS and theres no DNA.

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Saw a post about Ginger Anne Sutherland and she reminded me of this UID.
Ginger Anne Sutherland – The Charley Project

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Debra Ann Southerly The Doe Network: Case File 1484DFSC

Still not entered into Namus.

 

[carbuff]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) I don't see anything new on the UID's Namus page.

 

[digitective]

Has Debra Southerly been considered for this Jane Doe? I can hardly find any information on her, but the resemblance between her picture and the sketch is considerable.

They look very similar, did you submit to Doe Network?

 

[UnlicensedPI]

They look very similar, did you submit to Doe Network?

I will do that on my lunch break today!

 

[UnlicensedPI]

Just submitted Debra Southerly as a potential match. Fingers crossed she gets a close look (or at least a NamUs entry!)

 

[mekoshell]

v

 

[Suglo]

Bumping.

 

[Bit of hope]

Evidence in this case(s) released in January 2020 according to Fire Island Jane Doe Facebook site.

Suffolk County Police released this new piece of evidence yesterday at a press conference; detailing a close-up of initials on a belt believed to have been handled by the killer. The initials are either “WH” or “HM”.

Suffolk Police Release New Gilgo Beach Murder Evidence

Suffolk County police shared a previously undisclosed piece of evidence in the unsolved Gilgo Beach murder investigation Thursday, nine years after the evidence was found and shortly before a movie about the case debuts.

The evidence was a black leather belt embossed with the half-inch initials “HM” or “WH” in light blue lettering found at an unspecified victim’s dump site, police said. Investigators believe the belt was handled by the killer and didn’t belong to any of the victims, but they declined to release the belt size.

 

[Suglo]

“It’s also tempting to connect Ms. Mack to Jessica Taylor — two women discovered in the same way, in two of the same places. Ms. Hart has her own theory — unproven of course, though she sounds energized as she shares it. She notes that two other victims were similarly disposed of: body parts, still unidentified, found at Davis Park in 1996, and the victim known as Peaches, who was found in Nassau County. It is possible, Ms. Hart has been thinking, that these four victims have the same killer — a different one from the four women found in 2010 in Gilgo Beach. “The method of dismemberment and disposal is kind of unique to these four,” she said.“

The Gilgo Beach Murders Were a Cold Case. Then a New Police Chief Arrived.

 

[coldcaser]

Here's a diagram I made for Fire Island Jane Doe, for us visual learners. It shows all her scars and how she was dismembered. Where I placed her scars is based on the information on the Doe Network. Until we find her torso, we don't even know if her arms and or hands were dismembered too. I find it much easier to digest information visually, so I might make these diagrams for all the victims, especially the Does.

 

[Bit of hope]

Here's a diagram I made for Fire Island Jane Doe, for us visual learners. It shows all her scars and how she was dismembered. Where I placed her scars is based on the information on the Doe Network. Until we find her torso, we don't even know if her arms and or hands were dismembered too. I find it much easier to digest information visually, so I might make these diagrams for all the victims, especially the Does.

Thanks. This is helpful. Memory/reproducing information works better by using different sources/senses.

 

[Disco1]

Body found 4/20/96 in Davis Park, NY
Nameus UP9098
Anyone have any info on her?

 

[Bit of hope]

Body found 4/20/96 in Davis Park, NY
Nameus UP9098
Anyone have any info on her?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean additional information, news?

 

[CuriousKenna]

Fire Island Jane Doe
Namus UP #9098


20 April 1996

"The decedents left and right legs were recovered on April 20, 1996 at Blue Point Beach in the vicinity of Davis Park, Suffolk County NY." (CBS New York)

People walking along Blue Point Beach on Fire Island in the vicinity of Davis Park discovered the victim's legs on April 20, 1996.
The legs had been wrapped in plastic.

She is known as Fire Island Jane Doe and is one of eleven victims found along the remote Long Island highway. (Doe Network)

11/12 April 2011

"The decedents skull was recovered on April 12, 2011 off of Ocean Pkwy in Nassau County, NY, near a bird sanctuary." (CBS New York)

April 12, 2011, the victim's skull was found off of Ocean Parkway west of Tobay Beach in Nassau County. (Doe Network)

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Adult White Female, pre-50
Post mortem interval - 15 years
Probable year of death - 1996

• Right lower leg has a 3-1/2" scar on the lateral mid leg area, a 1" linear scar on the lateral mid to lower leg and a 1/2" scar on the medial ankle.
• The left leg has a 2" surgical scar with adjacent suture scars on the medial left ankle.
• The decedent had red toenail polish on all toes.
• The decedent may have had surgery on her left ankle.

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Namus UP #9098
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9098
Doe Network 1019UFNY

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Am I the only person who thinks this sounds like a bike injury? Medial ankles means inside ankles on both feet and the back of one calf, is kind of where the bike pedal would be if you were straddling the bike. Maybe she had a bad bike injury. Just a thought.

 

[PIed7]

I found a few potential women on Namus around the time period before April 1996.

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