I want to address the theory Ron has something on LE.
Can I ask how that would work? I could see it if we were talking about a traffic ticket being torn up, or Ron being caught with drugs and the LE catching him chooses to look the other way, but that's not the case here.
This has been a big investigation of the disappearance and probable murder of a 5-year-old child, Haleigh Cummings, Ron's daughter. IMO, the parents and caretakers are closely looked at when something like this happens. Most of PCSO was involved in this case, as well as members of FDLE and the FBI.
IMO, the mechanics of this being an LE cover-up would have to involve Ron being in a position to 'have something' on enough LE with enough authority and smarts to be able to divert and/or subvert the evidence and witnesses in such a way as to fool everyone else in at least 3 departments that aren't in on the cover-up, yet not have the ability to weasel out from whatever it is Ron has on them.
IMO, what might have happened is RC and/or his family has something on certain members of PCSO, who could have destroyed evidence very early on. Once the investigation was in full swing that would be much harder to do so it would have been in the early days, perhaps the first few hours. I am not saying this happened, only that it could have. ETA: We have all wondered how this group of misfits could have pulled off such a crime and leave no evidence. Well, what if there was evidence but it just never got in the right hands?
Well, and I know that can be a deep subject but something is terribly wrong down there especially IF LE is claiming Ronald Cummings is not a suspect...And since no pressure has been applied to him or anyone in his family I suspect someone in LE is involved in covering for him and his family....
Well, and I know that can be a deep subject but something is terribly wrong down there especially IF LE is claiming Ronald Cummings is not a suspect...And since no pressure has been applied to him or anyone in his family I suspect someone in LE is involved in covering for him and his family....
:waitasec: That or Ron is simply not guilty.
It is not obvious to me that Ron harmed his daughter. I do believe he loved Haleigh and I do not believe he would have wanted harm to come to her. However, while it is not obvious, it is possible that Ron harmed Haleigh unintentionally. Actually, it's possibly that whoever harmed Haleigh did so without intent. It may be a homicide, but I am not yet convinced it was murder.
What IS obvious to me is that Ron was involved in the cover-up, or at least went along with others who wanted things covered up. Ron is right where he belongs, though no one in PCSO deserves the credit. The drug sting was FDLE from start to finish.
Corruption is all over the place, and especially in small rural counties. Corruption can frame the innocent and allow the guilty to go free, or it can leave a case unsolved forever. I have no way of knowing for certain if corruption played a part in Haleigh's case but until I see some positive action on Haleigh's behalf, my mind remains open to the possibility.
I know I sound argumentative, but that's not how I'm trying to come across.
I don't think Ron was a good father to his kids, but I do see things where I think he did love Haleigh. However, at the end of the day, when it is all added up, I personally have no use for the man and haven't lost a moments sleep over him being in prison. I also can't say I have any better feelings towards most of the rest of the 'Satsuma Bunch'.
It's just when I go through all the scenarios of what could have happened to Haleigh, I can't come up with a single one I find plausible that includes Ron having a direct involvement, or even real, true knowledge after the fact that he was willing to cover up. I do believe he has covered up, though, in a way that IMO lets his daughter be the price paid for whatever he did, and that makes him (blank) in my book.
So many people seem to believe Ron was involved, and I keep trying to understand how they are getting there. A popular theory is LE is involved in covering Ron's guilt, and IMO, I agree Ron could not be guilty and have had this play out the way it has without LE's help, but again, it's one thing to say LE is covering for Ron, and another to have a likely scenario of how and why, and that's where I get lost.
For example, let's say Ron has been involved in drug deals with several PCSO officers. Unless he has proof, (and what kind of proof would he have?) it's his word against theirs, and even if he has friends who have also bought drugs, why would they cross LE to help a child killer?
But say Ron has the goods on LE and they agree to help him get away with killing his child. They would have to come up with something that gives Ron an alibi during the time something would have happened to Haleigh, and that involves other people lying and/or keeping their mouths shut AND whatever evidence tampering/destroying took place to withstand the scrutiny of all the rest of the LE officers and departments involved in this case. Because I can't see Ron as having any kind of power other than the domination of little girls, I can't find a single reason for the amount of people who would have to be involved to be willing to do this.
So what am I missing here?
My cousin was involved in a long time common law marriage. Her husband called police one day and reported she had committed suicide.
Her family knew this was not true as he was abusive and she would never have left her children. It was a small town and the husband had ties to many in the police department there. He was allowed to destroy evidence the day after she died including the chair she was sitting in that had a bullet hole through it.
Several years went by and her family were able to get a group working on cold cases interested in the case. My cousins husband was soon arrested, tried and is now in prison.
Never underestimate invisible ties between people in small towns.
I am not accusing anyone in the pcso of anything but in the south family connections often go back further than anyone can see easily as well as klan connections and hunting buddy connections and etc.
I have seen too many people get away with everything from murder to child molestation in my days when the perpetrator had the right connections.
Just recently I know of a young man that's been accused of molesting very young children get away with statutory rape simply because the girl had already be molested by others.
My cousin was involved in a long time common law marriage. Her husband called police one day and reported she had committed suicide.
Her family knew this was not true as he was abusive and she would never have left her children. It was a small town and the husband had ties to many in the police department there. He was allowed to destroy evidence the day after she died including the chair she was sitting in that had a bullet hole through it.
Several years went by and her family were able to get a group working on cold cases interested in the case. My cousins husband was soon arrested, tried and is now in prison.
Never underestimate invisible ties between people in small towns.
I am not accusing anyone in the pcso of anything but in the south family connections often go back further than anyone can see easily as well as klan connections and hunting buddy connections and etc.
I have seen too many people get away with everything from murder to child molestation in my days when the perpetrator had the right connections.
Just recently I know of a young man that's been accused of molesting very young children get away with statutory rape simply because the girl had already be molested by others.
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So many people seem to believe Ron was involved, and I keep trying to understand how they are getting there. A popular theory is LE is involved in covering Ron's guilt, and IMO, I agree Ron could not be guilty and have had this play out the way it has without LE's help, but again, it's one thing to say LE is covering for Ron, and another to have a likely scenario of how and why, and that's where I get lost.
For example, let's say Ron has been involved in drug deals with several PCSO officers. Unless he has proof, (and what kind of proof would he have?) it's his word against theirs, and even if he has friends who have also bought drugs, why would they cross LE to help a child killer?
But say Ron has the goods on LE and they agree to help him get away with killing his child. They would have to come up with something that gives Ron an alibi during the time something would have happened to Haleigh, and that involves other people lying and/or keeping their mouths shut AND whatever evidence tampering/destroying took place to withstand the scrutiny of all the rest of the LE officers and departments involved in this case. Because I can't see Ron as having any kind of power other than the domination of little girls, I can't find a single reason for the amount of people who would have to be involved to be willing to do this.
So what am I missing here?
That just isn't the same case here. Remember Ronald got the same amount of time, as Tommy Croslin. That tells me those two are in the exact same boat.
I think you made some good points. I can't get into the LE is covering for Ron conspiracy, but I think you could be right about the investigation. Early on, this was treated like a kidnapping, & everybody, including LE thought she was coming home. IDK why, but I think that may have had something to do with whatever Teresa referred to being missing with Haleigh. maybe it gave the impression that she was going to be cared for. & then there was the whole Crystal & a family abduction speculation. & THEN, after all that precious time, focus was put on Ron & Misty. then those dumpster hits.Need to quote you again to touch on some points you raised. First of all, I do not think PCSO would cover for a child killer. I do not think they felt RC harmed Haleigh, or at least they didn't back when the investigation was getting underway.
What I think PCSO might be covering is their bungling of the investigation. I believe they want justice for Haleigh and want the truth to come out about what happened, but they know they goofed up big time in not collecting possible evidence from places other than Green Lane. They blundered the investigation and that may be at the cost of whatever evidence might have been available initially, but is not available at this late date.
I do not believe this crime went off with no evidence being left behind. So, where is that evidence? Did LE destroy it intentionally? I doubt it. IMO, they allowed it to be destroyed with the passage of time because they failed to collect it when it was available.
If PCSO is involved in cover-up, it might not be to protect Haleigh's perp, but could very well be for them to save face.
My cousin was involved in a long time common law marriage. Her husband called police one day and reported she had committed suicide.
Her family knew this was not true as he was abusive and she would never have left her children. It was a small town and the husband had ties to many in the police department there. He was allowed to destroy evidence the day after she died including the chair she was sitting in that had a bullet hole through it.
Several years went by and her family were able to get a group working on cold cases interested in the case. My cousins husband was soon arrested, tried and is now in prison.
Never underestimate invisible ties between people in small towns.
I am not accusing anyone in the pcso of anything but in the south family connections often go back further than anyone can see easily as well as klan connections and hunting buddy connections and etc.
I have seen too many people get away with everything from murder to child molestation in my days when the perpetrator had the right connections.
Just recently I know of a young man that's been accused of molesting very young children get away with statutory rape simply because the girl had already be molested by others.
I'm not trying to get anyone to come over to my side, what I'm trying to get is an understanding of how Ron could have done it. If it were just one or two people saying this, I would blow it off as dislike or whatever, but there's more than that, so what am I missing?
The way I'm seeing it, for Ron to have done it, either he wasn't where he says he was, or Haleigh wasn't where everyone is saying she was, or at least not 100% good and healthy. LE screwing up would not be enough for either one of these to take place, so IMO, either Ron couldn't have done it, or LE is covering for him. If FDLE (who didn't seem to have any issue whatsoever putting Ron's hiney behind bars) and the FBI had not come into this case, I could believe Ron maybe has something on the local LE (it would be a struggle for me to accept Ron simply has 'influence' over them) and that's how he got off, but this case as it stands would IMO be way too easy for outside LE to uncover things like was Ron at work or was Haleigh showing signs of injury at school that day, was Haleigh at school that day, are all the witnesses to Haleigh being alive and well while Ron was at work (AC guy, Misty, Tommy, Tommy's kids, Jr. and GGM Sikes) lying?
I'm not trying to get anyone to come over to my side, what I'm trying to get is an understanding of how Ron could have done it. If it were just one or two people saying this, I would blow it off as dislike or whatever, but there's more than that, so what am I missing?
The way I'm seeing it, for Ron to have done it, either he wasn't where he says he was, or Haleigh wasn't where everyone is saying she was, or at least not 100% good and healthy. LE screwing up would not be enough for either one of these to take place, so IMO, either Ron couldn't have done it, or LE is covering for him. If FDLE (who didn't seem to have any issue whatsoever putting Ron's hiney behind bars) and the FBI had not come into this case, I could believe Ron maybe has something on the local LE (it would be a struggle for me to accept Ron simply has 'influence' over them) and that's how he got off, but this case as it stands would IMO be way too easy for outside LE to uncover things like was Ron at work or was Haleigh showing signs of injury at school that day, was Haleigh at school that day, are all the witnesses to Haleigh being alive and well while Ron was at work (AC guy, Misty, Tommy, Tommy's kids, Jr. and GGM Sikes) lying?