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Or METH use???? Plus that Meth makes people crazeeeeee....
Meth use is what I have come to suspect, also.

It could explain the sexual aggression, the violence, the theft charges, the internal bleeding, the extreme risk taking, so much more...

Meth can make anyone violent, sexually aggressive and sexually obsessive, can cause compulsive shopping and /or stealing.

It is so corrosive, it can cause internal bleeding with extended use.

Not all meth users are stick-thin, or covered in sores. That is a stereo-type.

Meth can turn anyone 'evil'.

My opinion only, of course.
 
Psychologist Jeff Gardere, speaking on MSNBC this afternoon says that it is rare as usually women act under a male director. But it seems that MH did not. Also states that it is much easier for a women to lure children because they are typically in the “caretaker” positions. In addition, most women abusers assault their own children.

I believe she abused Sandra before. I think it was an ongoing thing when Sandra came over to her home, maybe even with her daughter and I think Sandra was ready to spill the beans.
 
Isn't that the 60 million dollar question and to my knowledge no one can provide the answer.

For the most part we can only talk about some of the indicators some of us have mentioned (infantile, undeveloped psyches) and those only apply to certain populations of offenders.

Like with some of what I've been reading over on the forensic astrology board, the best we can do is "read back."

So, for example, I once had a 16 year-old male offender in one of my congregations. I believe he offended his six year-old niece on a regular basis and I know he began to offend my 8 year-old daughter before we interrupted his attempt (at church, btw, where I was the pastor, my daughter was in my office, and the adults were in the sanctuary at choir practice!). When we went back over this young man's history, here's what we saw:

1. Bi-polar mother who might have offended him,
2. Struggling father, doing his best, but often at his wits' end,
3. Shy, retiring young man, with few friends his own age, who always preferred the company of those younger, and never did well in school.

We got him help with one of the top specialists in the area of youthful sexual offenders, but even after a years' worth of intervention she was doubtful she could help him. He was just too far gone with too few inherent emotional skills to ever reorient to anything we would view as normal. It was so sad. I lost track of this family over the last twenty years, but I often think of them.

I believe that most important point is #1 - bipolar mother. This biological/genetic issue might have played the biggest role in his life regardless of his upbringing and might have actually been responsible for #3. #2 probably didn't help.
 
I completely agree. What I am curious about is what makes people have the (sick) desire to sexually abuse children? Regardless of whether or not I was sexually abused, I have never once thought of abusing a child. In other words, forget about what "helps" an abused peron not continue the abuse cycle (psychological treatment, strong will); what makes some people who were abused even WANT to abuse children?


If you have ever listened to or read anything by Dr. Drew Pinsky, he'll tell you that traumatic experiences can become appealing later on--like with kids who grew up in physically abusive homes tend to gravitate towards those types of relationships as they enter adulthood.
 
Has anyone considered the fact that whatever the foreign object was that was used to sexually assault SC was probably also what killed her? If she was assaulted with an object that caused bleeding, etc. she could have bled to death during the assault. I think this is why they immediately charged MH with murder. IMO

I've been wondering that also since seeing the additional charges, but it makes me nauseous to think such things even if they may be true. I'm just sick over this case, and may need to step back as it progresses. It's beyond my limit to ponder what this poor baby endured. When a woman alone was charged I was thankful because I (wrongly) assumed these things would not come into play. It's unbelievable to hear this woman may have done WORSE things to her. I'm just heartbroken.
 
Has anyone considered the fact that whatever the foreign object was that was used to sexually assault SC was probably also what killed her? If she was assaulted with an object that caused bleeding, etc. she could have bled to death during the assault. I think this is why they immediately charged MH with murder. IMO


could be....but IMO i don't think so. i am just basing that on the report that there were no visible signs of trauma to Sandra (if i'm remembering correctly). point in the same vein as yours, it's possible she drugged her and that killed her. i just hope that poor little Sandra was unconcious for whatever that monster did to her. :mad:
 
I've been wondering that also since seeing the additional charges, but it makes me nauseous to think such things even if they may be true. I'm just sick over this case, and may need to step back as it progresses. It's beyond my limit to ponder what this poor baby endured. When a woman alone was charged I was thankful because I (wrongly) assumed these things would not come into play. It's unbelievable to hear this woman may have done WORSE things to her. I'm just heartbroken.

I agree and without going into detail maybe whatever she did or whatever foreign object was involved could also have caused internal bleeding in her (MH) if she used it on herself. I know that this is really a gross idea, but it is a gross case and whatever happened I think it was obvious when they found the body. They did not need the autopsy report. I pray I am wrong. JMO
 
Can ANYONE answer these questions? Please. TIA
I haven't heard if she worked outside the home.

Her grandfather was home with her sisters (IIRC).

They said they spent two hours going house to house to search for Sandra before calling 911 which puts it back to 6:00 pm when they missed her.
 
My question is who is the professional that evaluated MH recently and found her fit to stand trial on the theft charges. I can understand a family being in denial about how bad a person's mental health is, but a trained professional missed the signals that something was really wrong here?

That just seems wrong. Whoever this was could have saved a child's life.
 
I think things like this happen a lot more often than we think...I have heard from a half dozen teenage girls that they've often been peer pressured into having bisexual sex...

I think that's different though from an adult molesting a child. sometimes child molestation doesn't even had to do with gender - a pedophile might not have a preference for a boy or a girl - it's not a "homosexual" or "heterosexual" thing. actually, the majority of child molestation is adult males preying on female children. (which is why I get angry when people equate homosexuality with pedophilia - being attracted to your own gender has absolutely nothing to do with being attracted to children!) it's more a crime of opportunity and the fact that it's a vulnerable child.

and I think the bisexual sex pressure is because girls get this idea that it's trendy and that making out with their female friend will get them attention from boys. I am 28 years old and I know women MY AGE who will still do it for attention whether they are attracted to women or not! but sadly, a lot of women will do "what men want" their entire lives, if that's how they've learned from an early age to get attention. It really makes you think how much our early experiences are shaped by our parents' relationship or with who our parents choose as partners, and how much we ourselves shape our own children's adult relationships.
 
My question is who is the professional that evaluated MH recently and found her fit to stand trial on the theft charges. I can understand a family being in denial about how bad a person's mental health is, but a trained professional missed the signals that something was really wrong here?

That just seems wrong. Whoever this was could have saved a child's life.

wait, what? she was evaluated for her theft charges?...i totally missed that.
 
My question is who is the professional that evaluated MH recently and found her fit to stand trial on the theft charges. I can understand a family being in denial about how bad a person's mental health is, but a trained professional missed the signals that something was really wrong here?

That just seems wrong. Whoever this was could have saved a child's life.
I heard the evaluation had not been done yet, but it was coming up so I am not certain which reports are accurate.
 
I completely agree. What I am curious about is what makes people have the (sick) desire to sexually abuse children? Regardless of whether or not I was sexually abused, I have never once thought of abusing a child. In other words, forget about what "helps" an abused peron not continue the abuse cycle (psychological treatment, strong will); what makes some people who were abused even WANT to abuse children?

I don't think there's an exact formula for it - like you said, it's just everyone's individual makeup that determines the people we become. everyone deals with trauma and abuse in different ways. Some, like you, may be determined to take that experience and use your strength to help others and as an agent for good. Some people end up having relationships with abusers as adults. Some go on to become the abusers themselves. my brother is a therapist and has seen the results of childhood abuse really run the gamut. He had a patient who was so abused as a child that she was compelled to swallow things - like batteries, matches, even spoons! she turned her rage inward and self-destructively. The abusers who were abused as children are turning their rage outward on others. there was an episode of "Intervention" recently in which a woman who was forced to perform oral sex as a child developed a swallowing disorder. Not anorexia, but she was so afraid of swallowing that she had to have a feeding tube inserted into her stomach so she wouldn't have to swallow. she wouldn't even swallow her own saliva - she would spit it into a cup! We are all complex mixes of nature and nurture, and you just can't predict how people will deal with trauma. Take two siblings exposed to the exact same environment as children - they could end up as different as night and day.
 
Didn't know where to post this.....

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/04/female_sex_offenders.php


What Motivates Female Sex Offenders?
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
filed under: michelle golland

Michelle Golland: Sexual abuse by females, while not as common and definitely underreported as abuse by males, does occur. Marlee Matlin, while on CNN's "Larry King Live" Monday, spoke about her own experience of sexual abuse at the hands of her female babysitter when she was just 11 years old.
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It appears, if the allegations are true, that part of the motive in the death of Sandra Cantu was that her killer, Melissa Huckaby, was sexually abusing her and may have killed her in the course of or in an attempt to hide the abuse.

A 2007 report by the Center for Sex Offender Management says that one half of sex offender therapy programs provide services to females. Approximately 3,800 adult women and 2,700 adolescent girl offenders were receiving sex offender therapy services in 2007 -- a number that's nearly twice the number of those served in these programs two years prior.

4 to 8% of reported cases of sex abuse were perpetrated by women. An estimated 1.6 million men and 1.5 million women were sexually abused by women when they were children, and among male offenders convicted and sentenced sexual abuse crimes, 24.6% of them were sexually abused by women.

Characteristics of female sex offenders

1. Women between the ages of 22-33 years of age.
2. They have experienced sexual abuse as children or teens and can have victimization histories twice the rate of men who sexually offend.
3. History of alcohol and/or drug abuse.
4. The majority are not mentally ill, but may experience depression or personality disorders.
5. A majority are employed in professional jobs.
6. They have difficulties in intimate relationships; or an absence of intimate relationships.

Victims of female sex offenders:

1. A high percentage of victims are in the family or the perpetrator is close to the victim -- friend, teacher, coach, sitter or clergy.
2. Victims are both boys and girls -- with a slightly higher number of girls.
3. Younger children, under the age of 12, are more often victims of women over the age of 30 years of age.
4. Children between the ages of 13-17 are often the victims of women who are between the ages of 18 to 25 years of age.
5. Women do not tend to show a "victim age preference" in the same manner that male sex offenders do.

Categories of female sex ffenders

1. Teacher/Lover: At the time of their offending, these women are often struggling with peer relationships. They perceive themselves as having romantic or sexually mentoring "relationships" with underaged adolescent victims of their sexual preference, and therefore, did not consider what they are doing to be wrong or criminal in nature.
2. Predisposed: Histories of incestuous sexual victimization, psychological difficulties and deviant sexual fantasies were common among these women who generally acted alone in their offending. They tend to victimize their own children or other young children within their families or they are close too.
3. Male-Coerced: These women tend to be passive and dependent individuals with histories of sexual abuse and relationship difficulties. Fearing abandonment, they were pressured by male partners to commit sex offenses often against their own children.

Bringing us Out of Denial
If what is being reported is true regarding the death and sexual abuse of Sandra Cantu, then one positive thing that can come out of this horrible situation is that more children, both boys and girls, will report sexual abuse at the hands of female perpetrators and we as a society will no longer deny the harsh reality of sexual violence at the hands of women. If we continue this cultural denial, we deny the victims the support they need to report the trauma and seek help in their healing.
 
iirc she had charges in LA county and in SJ County. The charges in SJC resulted in her examination by two mental health professionals and her enrollment in a program (mental health program) which was to be evaluated this Friday in court. I got this info from the Jennifer Wadsworth interview and the things she had uncovered on her criminal history.
 
If you have ever listened to or read anything by Dr. Drew Pinsky, he'll tell you that traumatic experiences can become appealing later on--like with kids who grew up in physically abusive homes tend to gravitate towards those types of relationships as they enter adulthood.

There's also a lot of literature on that phenomenon not related directly to abuse. Women with distant (but not neglectful) fathers often gravitate to distant or unavailable men, almost subconsciously trying for a "second chance" to get the attention they wanted when they were little.

A friend of mine had that problem- always trying to "fix" boyfriends to get them to open up. Another friend told her to volunteer at the animal shelter- its a lot easier to retrain an old dog to be affectionate than an old man ;)
 
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.d..._NEWS/90414006

Connie Lawless said in phone interview this morning that her granddaughter, Melissa Huckaby, maintains her innocence to charges that she kidnapped, murdered and raped 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.

(Bolded by me) :behindbar So she realized too late that talking to the press may not be such a great idea... :doh:


^ Yes to the bold, SS.

Again, where was MH's mother? We have seen nothing of her. The article stated that her father and grandparents visited. Just IMO, but I think the family should have just stayed quiet all along.
 
I agree and without going into detail maybe whatever she did or whatever foreign object was involved could also have caused internal bleeding in her (MH) if she used it on herself. I know that this is really a gross idea, but it is a gross case and whatever happened I think it was obvious when they found the body. They did not need the autopsy report. I pray I am wrong. JMO

In my opinion, speculation of what happened is really irrelevant. The fact is , she was murdered and sexually violated by this woman. The autopsy report has the facts. Sandra is dead because of this woman. I think to suggest this kind of thing is really unnecessary. JMO.
 
Has anyone considered the fact that whatever the foreign object was that was used to sexually assault SC was probably also what killed her? If she was assaulted with an object that caused bleeding, etc. she could have bled to death during the assault. I think this is why they immediately charged MH with murder. IMO

I think it is more likely that the cause of death in this case didn't cause a lot of bleeding, if any, and definitely not enough for her to bleed to death. Even though the police are very confident they have the right person based on the evidence they have and they were able to quickly gather this evidence, it is my impression/opinion that this evidence doesn't include things that indicate a person bleeding to death. In most cases where there is such a large amount of blood loss, there is going to be a very obvious crime scene (or one that must be cleaned up) and numerous contaminated items like clothing, carpet, etc that are either discovered by the police or must be disposed of by the perp. I haven't really seen or read anything that would give me an indication that such a crime scene or other evidence has been discovered by police, but I obviously have no way of knowing exactly what has been found. It seems to me that the investigation of MH and the surrounding area started almost immediately and that would have provided her or even an accomplice a pretty limited window to clean up a bloody crime scene and dispose of any contaminated items.

Now, I'm not dismissing that the object used in the assault wasn't also the murder weapon. It seems possible that she could have hit Sandra in the head with the object hard enough to cause death without also causing a large amount of bleeding, but I'm leaning more toward the cause of death being more in the area of suffocation, strangulation, drug overdose (intentional or unintentional), or a combination of these things.
 
iirc she had charges in LA county and in SJ County. The charges in SJC resulted in her examination by two mental health professionals and her enrollment in a program (mental health program) which was to be evaluated this Friday in court. I got this info from the Jennifer Wadsworth interview and the things she had uncovered on her criminal history.

So not one, but two professionals missed something important in their examinations.


link to the story

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/ful...instance=secondary_stories_left_column&open=&
 

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