Rebecca Zahau Wrongful Death/ADAM SHACKNAI FOUND RESPONSIBLE #6

[Jessica2012]

Some people do not realize that no one leaves fingerprints or DNA every single time they touch something. Even Rebecca Zahau. But she touched enough that it is clear she was her own murderer.

To accuse the hard-working SDSO of fixing the investigation with no proof of that whatsoever just shows how the conspiracy theory mind-set has worked in this case from the beginning.

Now, I am going away until Adam is finally exonerated. Which could be soon, or it could be five more years from now. But I’m hoping that the new Judge will strike the verdict in light of the new investigation.

Hope I’m back very soon. Till then!

IMO

 

[Tortoise]

Ridiculous is believing a murderer is not complicit simply because his dna and fingerprints were not found at the scene. Isn’t this what SD concluded?

IMO, this was a well designed investigation from the start to exonerate a murderer. Thank goodness the intelligent and open-minded jurors in the civil case saw it for the sham that it was.


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Gore said, "There’s just no physical evidence or eyewitness evidence to tie Adam Shacknai to this murder. There’s no DNA, there’s no fingerprints," he said. "It’s interesting the attorney Mr. Greer managed to turn that into a theory that the crime scene had been wiped clean which is really difficult to do in this scientific age we live in."

Greer said that was "the most significant part.”

"If you look at things associated with the crime, not even Rebecca's DNA or prints are on them," he said.

SDSO: Zahau's Official Cause of Death Remains Suicide

This inane statement by Gore seems to be playing to an audience ignorant of the full facts or unable to connect the dots. It's no wonder he didn't allow Greer to be present.

You're right it was an investigation by design, he had to keep it all under his control and it shows fear of an independent inquiry.

 

[Jade]

Now Adam only has all of eternity in hell to worry about since he didn’t get his due here on earth.

 

[coastal]

I have not seen this yet:
Coronado Mansion Mystery: Stories you haven’t heard (Part I)

Part 1:
POSTED 5:44 PM, JANUARY 24, 2019, BY PHIL BLAUER, UPDATED AT 05:45PM, JANUARY 24, 2019

>>>snip

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- It's been seven and a half years since the bizarre hanging death of Rebecca Zahau at the historic Spreckels Mansion in Coronado.

The San Diego County Sheriff's Department has ruled twice that the 32-year-old committed suicide. A civil jury found her boyfriend's brother, Adam Shacknai, liable for her death. Now, for the first time, Zahau's sister Mary and her brother-in-law Doug are reacting to the Sheriff Department's second ruling of suicide in early December.

"I will never give up. My sister deserves justice and she was treated with disrespect and she was treated like a piece of garbage and I'm not having that," Mary Zahau-Loehner said during an hour-long interview with FOX 5 at her home near Kansas City, Missouri. "I want them to remember her as she was, not the way that she has been on the news, not the way that she has been presented in trial, not the way she was at the crime scene. I want them to remember her before this moment..."

...Zahau-Loehner spoke candidly with FOX 5 about details of the case never before heard, like how she claims her family was treated by the San Diego County Sheriff's Department.

"They never asked my opinion, they never asked what I knew, they never asked what I thought or to confirm or not confirm any kind of facts or any kind of thing that I knew about my sister or about the case," Zahau-Loehner said. "They have never given us the time of the day or the consideration that you should be giving a victim's family. We might as well be like gum stuck to their boots. That's how they treated us..."

...Adam Shacknai issued a statement shortly after the department's second ruling and said he was in no way responsible for Zahau's death.

On Friday, a judge will rule on his request to overturn a civil jury's verdict against him or to have a new civil trial...

(article continues)

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[Mica]

This is the same LE Dept that handled the McStay disappearance.


So the judge will overturn the civil verdict or have a new civil trial? What? If he doesn’t overturn it, why the need for a new civil trial. The jury has spoken. Why can’t the civil verdict remain as is - Adam Shacknai is responsible for Rebecca Zahau’s death.

IMO, this case was intentionally worked as a suicide and LE and the justice system will accept nothing different.

 

[Seattle1]

On Friday [Jan 25, 2019], a judge will rule on his request to overturn a civil jury's verdict against him or to have a new civil trial.

Any update?

 

[Tortoise]

Shacknai had requested a judge overturn a civil trial's findings against him or have a new trial after a jury found him responsible for Zahau's death and awarded her family $5 million in damages in April 2018.

The judge looked at the evidence Friday and decided that there was nothing substantial that would force a new trial and that there's enough to support the jury's conclusion.

Judge declines new trial over 2011 death of Rebecca Zahau

 

[Tortoise]

I've just re-read the article and must have missed this bit first time around - arguments have been postponed to February 6th.

How does a court make a provisional ruling before arguments have been heard?

 

[Mica]

Shacknai had requested a judge overturn a civil trial's findings against him or have a new trial after a jury found him responsible for Zahau's death and awarded her family $5 million in damages in April 2018.

The judge looked at the evidence Friday and decided that there was nothing substantial that would force a new trial and that there's enough to support the jury's conclusion.

Judge declines new trial over 2011 death of Rebecca Zahau

Thanks for posting Tortoise.

Great news! The judge saw the evidence and agreed the jury got it right! A win for Greer and Rebecca’s family!

 

[Tortoise]

Thanks for posting Tortoise.

Great news! The judge saw the evidence and agreed the jury got it right! A win for Greer and Rebecca’s family!

Hopefully, see my next post!

 

[Mica]

I've just re-read the article and must have missed this bit first time around - arguments have been postponed to February 6th.

How does a court make a provisional ruling before arguments have been heard?

Good question. Don’t understand why the tentative ruling.
Things seem backwards.

Do you mean this?

The judge issued the tentative ruling declining a new civil trial against Adam Shacknai, who's accused of being responsible for Zahau's death by her family, and postponed arguments until Feb. 6.

 

[Tortoise]

Yes that's the line Mica.

 

[Seattle1]

Good question. Don’t understand why the tentative ruling.
Things seem backwards.

Do you mean this?

The judge issued the tentative ruling declining a new civil trial against Adam Shacknai, who's accused of being responsible for Zahau's death by her family, and postponed arguments until Feb. 6.

Yes that's the line Mica.

I believe the 2/6/19 hearing is probably for AS rebuttal to the Judge's findings that were not in his favor. Judge likely went through AS written claim for dismissal/retrial, and responded in kind. AS gets last chance to try and dissuade the Judge of his decision to dismiss AS claim. If AS claim really had merit, it would have been overwhelmingly clear in his protest filing.

However, we know better than to believe anything with AS/JS is really over until the final docs are signed, entered, and recorded as final! MOO

 

[Tortoise]

The judge rejected Shacknai’s contentions that there was jury misconduct, among other issues.

In her ruling, judge Bacal wrote the court feels remiss if it does not state that the Sheriff’s investigation leaves almost as many questions unanswered as answered, saying it is still not unreasonable to still ask, “who killed Rebecca Zahau?”

Judge rejects Adam Shacknai’s plea for new civil trial over Rebecca Zahau’s death

more to read at link and short video

(obviously the rumor mill was working well before the appeal! )

 

[Tortoise]

Short video with Keith Greer in this brief article

Shacknai back in court today regarding death of Rebecca Zahau -

 

[Tortoise]

“Given these facts alone, common sense says Rebecca did not paint the amateurishly painted message on the door,” Bacal wrote. “And if she did not, someone else did. [...]

[...]

If there is no change and the manner of death remains suicide, Greer said the family will go back to court for hearings in front of a judge and seek a writ ordering a change in the manner of death from homicide to suicide.

Lawyers for Shacknai could not be reached for comment after the hearing. In their motion they argued that one “over-zealous” juror improperly influenced the panel by [...]

Judge leans toward no new trial in Coronado mansion death of Rebecca Zahau, questions sheriff's conclusion

To paraphrase the defence said a juror discussed a police report that was in evidence but not used in court. The judge said this was not improper and also the defence was relying on hearsay regarding AS' investigators' discussions with jurors.

 

[Tortoise]

Greer called the sheriff's department decision in December 2018 an "improper and biased decision." The attorney said there was "something corrupt" in the investigation and that it's possible Gore and others close to the investigation were influenced by Jonah Shacknai's wealth.

Gore defended his department and maintained that detectives on this case followed the facts and the evidence. Gore responded with a measured but forceful denial.

"I never took any money from Jonah Shacknai in my election or re-election campaigns. That's just not the way we operate," he said. "And to be quite honest, I take personal offense at that, at impugning the reputation of this department, one of the best in the country."

Tentative Ruling Upholds Jury's Finding Against Adam Shacknai

 

[Tortoise]

from post above "in my election or re-election campaigns"

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark, IMO. This doesn't deny that money may have been taken at another time.

And I'm not alleging it was, I'm just looking at his words.

 

[Laughing]

from post above "in my election or re-election campaigns"

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark, IMO. This doesn't deny that money may have been taken at another time.

And I'm not alleging it was, I'm just looking at his words.

BBM

noticed that particular phrasing as well....

OK, never took money for election campaigns. Willing to say under oath that he never took gifts or favors of any kind? No meals, no use of vacation house or pleasure boat, no nothing???

 

[Tortoise]

BBM

noticed that particular phrasing as well....

OK, never took money for election campaigns. Willing to say under oath that he never took gifts or favors of any kind? No meals, no use of vacation house or pleasure boat, no nothing???

It's also funny that right after that he said "And to be quite honest". If someone has to say that it implies what went before it wasn't honest.