DaneBramage
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Hello.... Laredo...
Am I the only one that has a bad feeling about this sighting? So strange, why would she go in and out of a laundry mat for days at a time but not wash anything until the 26th?? I wonder if it was the evening of the 26th?
I was going to say that perhaps the laundromat was being used aa a rendezvous point. Perhaps EJ went there to receive updates if not from person-to-person contact then via phone or a concealed msg on a bulletin board, stack of papers, even written on the wall maybe. To go several times, I think she could have been waiting for a signal from someone that everything was "good to go." After reading that there is an adoption agency in the building next to the strip mall (thanks, momtective), I now just think it's too weird to not mean something.
"free services for pregnant women considering adoption. we can help" is from ad for The Adoption Network Law Center- the ad appears at the top of the yellow pages and is unrelated to the listing of civil attorneys below- if you google adoption and gardendale it will pop up with the lawyer since he's listed on gardendale as well as the phrase- it's separated by ... to show this
Yes, I have found no connections between this lawyer or his associate to any adoption ads or agencies, yet
I have found some interesting cases this lawyer has been involved in as a consumer protection lawyer to include one in the papers against a rent -all
agency who used -like techniques to collect on debts
Perhaps I just cannot find what you found MomT :waitasec:
Still looking
The home office of bwcsgala is at 7911 Broadway Street but that doesn't mean that's where the actual shelter is.
Searching The Children's Shelter on google maps I think the big black rod Iron gated place is the Children's shelter http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl it's about 5 miles from the laundromat.
bwcs ( battered Women's and Children's Shelter home office) 15 min. from the Laundromat http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
This whole laundry mat thing has me perplexed. It's GOT to be a key in this because why in the heck would she go there not needing to do laundry? I can't even imagine she was just wasting time waiting for someone/something as there are dozens of places in that area that would be more logical to do that at. As has been pointed out, laundry mats are (usually) dirty, hot, uncomfortable and filled with cranky people and loud children. Even to use the pay phone, it would be an odd choice.
Then, that last day washing Gabe's clothes -- that just doesn't make since, either. I think it definitely backs up that she didn't kill him, but why would she be washing his clothes if she was giving him away, too? She seems much too self centered to be washing his clothes for the "adoptive" parents. We've heard several people state how unattached she seemed to Gabe, would she be concerened with washing his clothes?
I don't know, I'm just totally confused by this sighting. I really hope it's legitimate, so we aren't focused on a bogus tip.
I'm wondering... Is it possible G had to have (or that EJ asked for him to have) a transitional visit or two with the adoptive parents maybe at the shelter or under supervision by the adoption agency prior to the placement becoming final? That would explain why she wasn't seen with him when she was sighted and it could also explain why she might be seen several times in the same area (laundromat) as she came and went to drop off/pick him up.
Even though it's not a sound (much less popular) way to look at it, though EJ was extremely detached from G , she seemed to have enough concern for her child to know he needed to be with someone other than her. EJ's upbringing/history guaranteed her virtually NO chance of knowing the appropriate thing to do. Justified or not, she seemed to think G also shouldn't be with his dad and was determined to make sure that he wasn't. If she really believed adoption was the right thing to do and she saw LM as barring what was in the best interests of their child (granted it wasn't what LM thought best and his opinion mattered too), then perhaps her willingness to take the heat for this & not divulge a thing that would reverse the adoption choice does show some attachment even if it doesn't come dressed in its usual wrappings. Maybe what we read as detachment is the only way she knew. My reasons for bringing this up here are that I really think washing the clothes may have been one way she displayed care and concern. The other... getting her child adopted. I'm just trying to get inside the mind of a young girl who sends so many conflicting signals.
If this sighting is for real, I agree then her appearance at this particular laundromat is not a weird coincidence or a random repeat sighting and I think that even if turns out that the hotel didn't have washers. She had to be taking and picking up G for some reason. Like most of you, I think it was part of the adoption process.
http://clarityofawareness.com/MISSING/publicr/p/gabriel.johnson.custody.documents.pdf
Elizabeth's Perspective
I am not saying I agree with this or her actions.
I think perhaps Elizabeth was psychotic, or on the verge of a psychotic break, and not thinking clearly. I've said before that I just never say psychotic without hallucinations or delusions of little green aliens or demons, but unless there's a rational explanation for some of her actions that none of us can think of, I'm considering more and more than she may have been in a psychotic break.
There is also the possibility that she was delusional, and we just haven't heard about it.
I don't know, Yellow. I'm just really scratching my head on this laundromat thing.
I do see what you're saying and I know it's not atypical of many young "lovers" when their relationship fizzles out to want the last word. Even though going that far is completely out of the normal range.
But since she started talking about adoption much way before actually departing with G and LM was opposed to it, left their relationship but still left her with G she may have felt that he didn't have much authority in the decision. I am not trying to justify I promise--only to understand. I do believe there's astrong chance I'm wrong about EJ and her thought process but I still keep wondering why G was left with her if everyone was so concerned aobut her mental well-being. If everyone really thought she was that unstable, then why would they leave him there? Especially if she was asking to give him away. Maybe everyone did know she cared for him even if her actions were not typical.