Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/15 thru 1/20 Break

[AZlawyer]

Speaking Objections are frowned upon. One is to say aloud Objection then the judge will ask the lawyers to approach so they may state the reason for their objection out of the earshot of the jury. If their only objection is that the question is leading, the judge will let them "speak" that short objection from where they are. The judge will rule quickly if she opines indeed the question was, she will often say ask another question or restate your question. Sustained means she agrees. Over ruled means take a seat, I do not agree it was leading.

More complicated objections may color what the jury thinks, so only the judge wants to hear them FIRST, which is why you see so very many side bars.

Normally the judges want you to say "objection" and then the basic type of objection: "leading," "hearsay," etc. That way the judge can rule immediately without a sidebar 80% of the time. I've never seen a judge allow so many sidebars before.

 

[AZlawyer]

Once the verdict is in and JA is sentenced, hopefully JSS will unseal everything, we'll likely have most of our questions answered when that happens. probably be a really big doc dump but it should be quite enlightening.

Only if you can get a reporter interested in spending the money and going down there to get copies of everything.

 

[NashBridges2]

Who is scheduled for Tuesday, Neumeister or Geffmeister? Is there even anything for BN to testify about any more? He got lost once pinned down and punted to Sue. BN's hundreds and hundreds of *advertiser censored* links has been reduced by his co-worker to one. I thought it was Geff who was due back on the 20th.

Hugh Geffner is back on the stand, ready to rake in a few more grand per day to read us more texts/emails. I'm sure he will start from scratch even though Willmott was finishing up, just incase we forgot something he said.

 

[Madeleine74]

The last woman executed in Arizona was Eva Dugan back in 1930.

37 inmates have been executed since 1992

Total inmates currently on DR: 118

https://corrections.az.gov/

 

[elementary]

Because BN incinerated his own damn copy, so who cares?



I see what you're saying. Style and form can certainly be important, and I think Travis's family has indeed suffered based on the mishandling of the "non-substantive" issues. I'm not saying those rulings didn't have an effect, just that they were not about the charges, the sentence, the verdict, etc.

Well, for me that's not all of the argument. It's also the delay that I find questionable. Why didn't the judge rule on the motions as they came along?

If we are going to speak about form and style then that matters a whole lot, IMO, as to what the public sees. Not to say the judge has to be a puppet, but it does make a massive impression as evidenced here. People lose faith in the courts because stuff like this happens, stuff that did not need to happen. IMO, it's the failure of the person representing the justice system, right or wrong as that opinion might be. And, IMO, the consequences of decisions do matter. To breed disaffection on so many levels, I imagine, can't be a good thing. The letter of the law might be adhered to, but when the spirit of the law has completely been deep-sixed.....?

 

[Steely Dan]

Oh, and her cell was tossed.:violin::violin::violin:

How many lady bics and advil were found?

 

[Dr. Know?]

Wasn't there a lot of sidebars in Casey A's case? It's been so long ago but do remember jokes about them, then again, I think there were...hmmm

 

[Val1]

Oh, and her cell was tossed.:violin::violin::violin:

But did they find her stabbed almost 30 times and left to rot in the shower for close to a week, her LoA clothes and towel all moldy and bloodstained in the bottom of the washing machine while all her bags sported bloody waterstains?

 

[geevee]

Only if you can get a reporter interested in spending the money and going down there to get copies of everything.

Oh. Drats. I want it all.

 

[Val1]

I'd be asking what the hades this has to do with the trial. :waitasec:



Did Sue shake Jodi's hand in front of the jury after is testiphony?



For me it's having her put in solitary, never knowing when the axe will fall.

Unfortunately re "Sue" we may never know, it wasn't on camera... somehow I don't think so.

 

[elementary]

As far as we know she is still in solitary.

But she gets to see her lawyers and her mitigation specialist, which I imagine she will.
Also, those tweets going out- she must talk on the phone with people. And what about her family?

 

[cindymac]

I still think there's a possibility. She's still young yet. She could be 60-70 years old before they finally pull the switch. Appeals don't last forever.

... and in the meantime, I hope there's an END to the 'art', twitter, and all the rest of that nonsense.

 

[MeeBee]

The last woman executed in Arizona was Eva Dugan back in 1930.

37 inmates have been executed since 1992

Total inmates currently on DR: 118

That's because the death pebalty was removed for a time and brought back and since then juries in AZ for whatever reason have a difficult time giving death to women. There are only two women on death row right now and they have not hit the state's average time on DR of 22 years. We don't know what will happen then or in 30 years, 40 years when they have no more appeals left.

And for some people, they vote death because they don't like the idea that the judge could give a murderer a chance for parole. Now that will never happen here and even if it did there's no procedure for parole anyway. But that is a sticking point for some people. Also knowing they will spend the rest of their lives in solitary confinement is a reason it's given.

 

[MeeBee]

But she gets to see her lawyers and her mitigation specialist, which I imagine she will.
Also, those tweets going out- she must talk on the phone with people. And what about her family?

Yeah she gets visitors and gets to talk on the phone. That's pretty normal.

 

[elementary]

From the other thread: I was quite surprised that the DT had already tried the COA before the most recent debacle. At that time, the COA wouldn't even entertain the motion. I'm thinking this is a trend and what the DT team threatens any time they don't get their way.

 

[Steely Dan]

That's because the death pebalty was removed for a time and brought back and since then juries in AZ for whatever reason have a difficult time giving death to women. There are only two women on death row right now and they have not hit the state's average time on DR of 22 years. We don't know what will happen then or in 30 years, 40 years when they have no more appeals left.

And for some people, they vote death because they don't like the idea that the judge could give a murderer a chance for parole. Now that will never happen here and even if it did there's no procedure for parole anyway. But that is a sticking point for some people. Also knowing they will spend the rest of their lives in solitary confinement is a reason it's given.

BBM

Who will Jodi have to tell her stories to?

 

[AZlawyer]

From the other thread: I was quite surprised that the DT had already tried the COA before the most recent debacle. At that time, the COA wouldn't even entertain the motion. I'm thinking this is a trend and what the DT team threatens any time they don't get their way.

Well, they've only gone once in this whole case, and that was on a major issue (whether the case had an aggravator qualifying JA for the death penalty). The media filed the recent special action, although the defense did file the appeal with the AZ Supreme Court after the media won.

 

[ZoeyW]

Normally the judges want you to say "objection" and then the basic type of objection: "leading," "hearsay," etc. That way the judge can rule immediately without a sidebar 80% of the time. I've never seen a judge allow so many sidebars before.

I went back to my post and changed it. What I meant to say is this judge frowns on them. I recall several times she scolded both sides for speaking objections. I agree with you, other judges would rather simplify and not delay the process. Here she seems to want them at the bench, certainly she starts off the day in secret that way each and every time. One of the reporters tweeted today that today they went up there as soon as the white noise came on. She hadn't even said approach. It was like Pavlov's dogs the reporter quipped.

 

[Myvice]

Can someone tell me, I'm so dense I guess, did TA ever access *advertiser censored* or were there just links from viruses?

I get confused after I go to Beth's site.

Did he view *advertiser censored* or not. Yes or NO LOL

 

[AZlawyer]

Can someone tell me, I'm so dense I guess, did TA ever access *advertiser censored* or were there just links from viruses?

I get confused after I go to Beth's site.

Did he view *advertiser censored* or not. Yes or NO LOL

I think YES but not very much lol. But perhaps someone else understood better.

ETA: To be honest, from the tweets it seemed like Flores was being accused of viewing more *advertiser censored* than Travis!