Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/20 Sizzle Break

[Frigga]

ElleElle
Alternate Reality


If this occurred in November, she may have been home for Thanksgiving?
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I may be wrong about this, but I don't think that missionaries typicallly return home for holidays. My friends were always gone the entire duration of their mission. No returning home unless some kind of emergency.

You are correct Katydid!- They do not come home to visit during their mission- that is part of the point, as well as minimal communication home. They are supposed to be focusing on what they are there to do.

 

[TexMex]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAv-cvfUZbU


She testified Travis and Linda broke up and Linda moved out of state.
Nurmi asks if it was a shock to Travis that Deanna wanted marriage. No
They had talked about it but were never engaged. Deanna began to realize how much time had gone by and she didn't think Travis was going to be ready any time soon.

 

[Madeleine74]

'Twas sarcasm.

Good 'ole Sarchasm

 

[TexMex]

Nurmi asks when their sexual relationship began. Deanna wasn't sure but it was after they moved to Arizona in 2004. Says LDS people are human and make mistakes. They (separately)talked to the Bishop in 2005. They each lost their Temple recommend.

 

[Steely Dan]

Here's a list of things I learned in trial by tweet today (some funny, some not so funny):

*what it means when someone asks you carpet or linoleum

*TA likes to talk to and flirt with pretty women

*TA was not suffering from ED (erectile dysfunction)

*It's normal for Mormons to gift interested people The Book of Mormon, but when TA does it it's manipulative

*TA was a "giver" in the oral arena

*Suicide humor is manipulation (guess I'm in trouble given how often I put my finger gun to my head reading trial by tweet)

*If the DT claimed their bowel movement from this morning was mitigating evidence it would be admitted and would not be subject to cross examination. Further it's identity would be held secret for fear of threats to "flush" it

Hopefully my learning tomorrow is more along the lines of how JM decimates DT witnesses on cross.

BM Ooops! I mean BBM

:laughcry:

BBM Thank you for reminding us of this again.

Suh-weet! I don't know so I'm just guessing here. 10,000 rooms, five full baths and 10,000 half baths, super advanced security system run by five hundred personal guards, air conditioned, friendly, sometimes, roommates and free room and board for life! What's not to like?

 

[TexMex]

Nurmi shows her an email btwn Travis and Chris Hughes where Travis says he did something "unpardonable" to Deanna. Deanna explains Travis meant dating so long and not marrying her.
Then Nurmi asks if Travis ever had her wear a French maid outfit. Then it got nasty

 

[ZoeyW]

You can be assured Phillip was busy making plane arrangements for Deanna and a number of live witnesses for the rebuttal case. Unlike these cowards of Jodi's, Travis' witnesses are all too happy to come take the stand and tell the truth for their friend. Indeed, I trust they are fired up ready!! Juan Martinez is going to have no mercy on this witnesses and Jodi Arias is going to find out in a hurry how truly misguided this Phantom 14 crap will turn out to be. This is going to blow up in her face worse than the gas cans.



HUGE MISTAKE bringing up Deanna. Once she is on the stand, guess what Juan Martinez gets to bring up? The time Deanna caught Jodi Arias in person breaking into Travis' home and .......wait for it......computer.


http://youtu.be/Wv38JlANzDM


HUGE MISTAKE

The very odd thing is this defense team never thinks for one second hmmmmm if we do this....Juan will react with what? It is all so predictable, yet they do it anyway. I have never seen such self sabotage to one's own case, ever. I have also NEVER seen a judge allow the absurdity of what went on today.

 

[katydid23]

Does someone know what happened with the overhead projector? What game was Wilmcott playing?

Apparently there was a page, with writing in the margin, on some kind of a timeline made by the defense, ands it was written: Travis looks at child *advertiser censored* pic [ or something along those lines.] And even though JW was not speaking about it, it was visible on the overhead, in front of the jury, while she was speaking to the witness...very below the belt tactics, as usual...

 

[bsk]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAv-cvfUZbU


She testified Travis and Linda broke up and Linda moved out of state.
Nurmi asks if it was a shock to Travis that Deanna wanted marriage. No
They had talked about it but were never engaged. Deanna began to realize how much time had gone by and she didn't think Travis was going to be ready any time soon.

BBM - Well sure, especially after he slapped her around and told her to get the fudge over that idea. But being a woman, she was too dumb to realize that Travis was abusing her.

 

[KPinMN]

Anyone else watch Vanderpump Rules? The Kristen girl on there reminds me CMJA with her crazy neediness and lack of insight.

 

[TexMex]

Deanna tells Nurmi Travis told her about his rough upbringing. About the cockroaches and rat infested homes. About being hungry. About his parents being drug addicts. But he also told her he had pleasant memories of his mom. She threw birthday parties for him. Deanna said Travis dad had already passed away. But Travis showed her a video of his dad. That she could see how much he loved his dad. How proud Travis was that he had cleaned up before his death. Samantha and Stephen are crying.
Deanna says there was no physical abuse by his parents reported to her. She did meet Travis's mom.

 

[wenwe4]

Apparently there was a page, with writing in the margin, on some kind of a timeline made by the defense, ands it was written: Travis looks at child *advertiser censored* pic [ or something along those lines.] And even though JW was not speaking about it, it was visible on the overhead, in front of the jury, while she was speaking to the witness...very below the belt tactics, as usual...

I think it was Geffner's timeline - as he was reading these "events" from the affidavits and then incorporated them into the timeline to show a "pattern" of behavior with Travis "having child *advertiser censored* on his computer" (as stated by Wilmott whilst reading) and "abusive behaviors" toward former girlfriends for not wanting to get married.

 

[Hatfield]

Good find. Her testimony at the trial is in direct conflict with what this witness is reporting. Travis broke up with Deanna in the Summer of 2001 while she was still doing missionary work. Said he wanted to date others. They had only been dating a couple of months prior to her leaving for Costa Rica. She returned in November of 2001 and they did not start seeing each other and dating again until the beginning of 2002. This is in conflict to what he is reporting. Plus she testified he never hit her ever, did not yell at her, raise his voice, nor curse at her ever. He's toast.

So was defense sleeping during her testimony? jmo

This is a really good point. Total contradiction right there. All Juan has to do for this part is to show her testimony from last trial.

It does make you wonder how the DT could even allow the testimony from the affidative if there is this kind of total contradiction on the record. Are they that incompetant that they would not remember OR maybe they know something we dont know and they know Juan is going to be prevented from being able to counteract this.

I am really concerned that Juan may have his hands tied on this somehow.
Like maybe the judge will only let him cross Geff on the affidatives.

 

[bsk]

Nurmi shows her an email btwn Travis and Chris Hughes where Travis says he did something "unpardonable" to Deanna. Deanna explains Travis meant dating so long and not marrying her.
Then Nurmi asks if Travis ever had her wear a French maid outfit. Then it got nasty

Those disgusting tactics of Lawrence could come back to haunt him. I'd expect Juan to ask her questions like:
- You testified in the original trial, right?
- And you were asked all sorts of personal and embarrassing questions by the defense team, weren't you?
- And then did you ever hear that some people were saying even more disgusting things about you on social media?
- Given all that, why didn't you just go into hiding and refuse to testify in public?

 

[daisydomino]

@WildAboutTrial
Reading about upcoming defense witnesses, Juan says one doesn't believe #JodiArias could do such a thing & must have been forced to do it.
1/20/15, 1:16 PM

@WildAboutTrial
Juan mentions how silly that is bc he knows of #JodiArias squeezing a cat until it passes out, Willmott objects & says that's not on record.
1/20/15, 1:17 PM

@WildAboutTrial
Juan says IT IS IN HIS record that #jodiarias squeezed a cat until it passed out. http://t.co/2opIQhM1c2
1/20/15, 1:18 PM

What is WAT saying here: "IT IS IN HIS record" I'm confused. Juan has his own record? This is the first I've heard that she squeezed the cat until it passed out. Ugh. Did everyone know this detail except me? Who told JM about that incident?

 

[LinasK]

BM Ooops! I mean BBM

:laughcry:



Suh-weet! I don't know so I'm just guessing here. 10,000 rooms, five full baths and 10,000 half baths, super advanced security system run by five hundred personal guards, air conditioned, friendly, sometimes, roommates and free room and board for life! What's not to like?

Kinda like Scott Peterson being "jazzed" that he was going to Death Row at San Quentin because it was a historic builiding.

 

[MeeBee]

I think it was Geffner's timeline - as he was reading these "events" from the affidavits and then incorporated them into the timeline to show a "pattern" of behavior with Travis "having child *advertiser censored* on his computer" (as stated by Wilmott whilst reading) and "abusive behaviors" toward former girlfriends for not wanting to get married.

It was actually a part that wasn't being used or read from, it was jsut written somewhere and Willmott left it up there for everyone to see.

 

[5bigfish5]

Nurmi shows her an email btwn Travis and Chris Hughes where Travis says he did something "unpardonable" to Deanna. Deanna explains Travis meant dating so long and not marrying her.
Then Nurmi asks if Travis ever had her wear a French maid outfit. Then it got nasty

PFFT! Travis never insisted on the "outfit", we all know that. Nice touch on Jodi's part, kinda' like the braids, the cheerleader outfit and searching for trees to be tied up to. She seduced Travis with every little trite fantasy in her repertoire.

No imagination, just recreations of things in book or movies.

I still can't/won't EVER do certain candies again...Thanks Jodi.

 

[MeeBee]

@WildAboutTrial
Reading about upcoming defense witnesses, Juan says one doesn't believe #JodiArias could do such a thing & must have been forced to do it.
1/20/15, 1:16 PM

@WildAboutTrial
Juan mentions how silly that is bc he knows of #JodiArias squeezing a cat until it passes out, Willmott objects & says that's not on record.
1/20/15, 1:17 PM

@WildAboutTrial
Juan says IT IS IN HIS record that #jodiarias squeezed a cat until it passed out. http://t.co/2opIQhM1c2
1/20/15, 1:18 PM

What is WAT saying here: "IT IS IN HIS record" I'm confused. Juan has his own record? This is the first I've heard that she squeezed the cat until it passed out. Ugh. Did everyone know this detail except me? Who told JM about that incident?

I believe Jodi told it to Alyce Laviolette. Willmott's quip is a little disingenuous because it's been brought up several times by Juan. It is in her records. Judge would know this.

 

[Hatfield]

Apparently there was a page, with writing in the margin, on some kind of a timeline made by the defense, ands it was written: Travis looks at child *advertiser censored* pic [ or something along those lines.] And even though JW was not speaking about it, it was visible on the overhead, in front of the jury, while she was speaking to the witness...very below the belt tactics, as usual...

Wow. Thanks. I havent had a chance to read all the happenings from today.