Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #1

[cindymac]

I like and believe Dr. Horn and did not implicate he was lying, so please don't accuse and just ask.

All I am trying to be here is devils advocate, and can see how that testimony could have confused jurors.

To judge from the jury questions - just 5 in all, and very straightforward - jurors were not at all confused by Dr. Horn's testimony.

Negligible, compared to the 161 questions they had for Alyce Laviolette.

 

[T-4-2]

Tom Tingle @TomTingle2 · 7h

#JodiArias smiles at her attorney during hearing in court Mon to decide if TV cameras will be allowed in sent retrial

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Gotta say... she looks better when her eyebrows aren't plucked half to death (no pun intended, and I mean no disrespect to people who like a thin-eyebrow look, just not my cup of tea).

And oh my gosh, we saw this during the trial but now she's gone completely "Single White Female" in her efforts to turn into Willmott. The bangs will return any day, then the center part, then she'll start teasing up the back a little bit. Or is that a mini-Bumpit? And is Jodi instigating this creepy transformation or is it all Willmott? Willmott is acting as stylist as well as defense attorney, isn't she? If not Willmott, who is providing Jodi with her dowdy, would't-hurt-a-fly, please-don't-kill-me-I-wear-glasses-(sometimes)-and-that-makes-me-a-harmless-nerd wardrobe and accessories?

On the other hand, if Jodi is trying to look like Desiree Freeman, maybe she should lose the smile.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_Q-xCY_M4-s/0.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/967259/thumbs/s-DANIEL-FREEMAN-large.jpg

 

[katydid23]

See as a layman I cannot figure out if Wilmott is a bad lawyer or if this is just par. Yes, she had a raw deal with her defendant, but I've seen better lawyers with worse circumstances make better arguments than her without making a fool of themselves. That copyright thing was rich. The posters here were floored at what was happening, Wilmott arguing this as if she'd made a huge discovery.

I think my favorite moment with Demarte was when Wilmott was questioning her and the scores and acting like Demarte didn't know what she was saying, the usual. In her indignant tone she pointed to a score with the initials 'PD' that Demarte had not talked about that was off the charts high and asked her, "and what does this stand for?" And with a glint in her eye Demarte said, "psychopathic deviance." The look on her face seemed to say, yes, please, let's talk about that. Wilmott, without acknowledging it, quickly moved on.

BBM

Hahaha...I remember that. I spilled iced coffee all over my keyboard. That was classic Wilmott. :computer:

 

[neesaki]

BBM

Hahaha...I remember that. I spilled iced coffee all over my keyboard. That was classic Wilmott. :computer:

I had forgotten that, and don't remember how Juan responded to it. Did he follow up on that or did JSS send it off into the Twilight Zone in one of the DT's never ending sidebars ? TIA

 

[T-4-2]

... this virulent campaigning on her own behalf, at this time - before she's even been sentenced - speaks "lack of remorse" loud and clear. Or at least, it would to me.

So, let me hazard a guess -- you're a human being with at least half a clue about how to live amongst more-or-less civilized people?

 

[katydid23]

I had forgotten that, and don't remember how Juan responded to it. Did he follow up on that or did JSS send it off into the Twilight Zone in one of the DT's never ending sidebars ? TIA

I don't remember Juan's response. That whole trial seemed like a bad dream from many years ago....

 

[salberg7]

If you all have time, Google "Gray Hughes" & check out his videos on the Alexander/Arias case on YouTube, especially "Gunshot first" theory. This gentleman is a 3D graphic specialist who created these awesome videos on the murder. They helped me figure out just how Travis moved post attack. The videos gave me food for thought regarding Gunshot first/stabbing second. We'll never know for sure in what order it occurred & actually to me it doesn't matter. The amount of suffering & pain that psychopath inflicted on poor Travis warrants the death penalty.

 

[MeeBee]

I had forgotten that, and don't remember how Juan responded to it. Did he follow up on that or did JSS send it off into the Twilight Zone in one of the DT's never ending sidebars ? TIA

It was a blink and you'll miss it moment. It was never addressed again. Wilmott wanted to quickly forget it Juan wanted it to speak for itself. I think I remember looking up psyhcopathic deviance to find out what it was and it doesn't mean quite what it sounds like. But it was just another case of Wilmott doing Juan's job for him. Her reluctance to talk about it spoke volumes.

 

[LinTX]

If you all have time, Google "Gray Hughes" & check out his videos on the Alexander/Arias case on YouTube, especially "Gunshot first" theory. This gentleman is a 3D graphic specialist who created these awesome videos on the murder. They helped me figure out just how Travis moved post attack. The videos gave me food for thought regarding Gunshot first/stabbing second. We'll never know for sure in what order it occurred & actually to me it doesn't matter. The amount of suffering & pain that psychopath inflicted on poor Travis warrants the death penalty.

He is very good with video, animation & 3D room layouts but not so good with facts that don't go along with his theory. I read a discussion he was having with others, and seemed pretty arrogant and dismissive whenever anyone would point out facts that didn't go along with his theory. He also made a few remarks that showed either total ignorance of what the medical testimony was and/or meant, or purposeful deceit. For instance:

1. When asked about the no bleeding, he at first denied Dr. Horn said that, claimed he only addressed inter-cranial bleeding. But then came back and said it was because he had bled out through the nasal passage. Guess he thinks you can move around with no blood in your body?
2. Claimed Dr. Horn said the gun shot wouldn't have incapacitated, ignoring the several bits of testimony where Dr. Horn said he would have been on the floor unable to make purposeful movement within seconds.
3. At one point actually said well, maybe the bullet did go through the brain cavity but missed the brain.

Again, one of the pictures presented at trial was the bullet hole in the anterior fossa - a pretty big one. A bullet cannot get there and do that damage without going through the brain, it just can't. Do some people survive with frontal lobe damage, even from gunshot? Yes, but one of the predictors for survival and future incapacitation is how long they stayed in a coma after the initial trauma. Those people didn't have damage to the fossa either, but still most always arrive for treatment in a coma that lasts from minutes to days to months.

 

[cindymac]

If you all have time, Google "Gray Hughes" & check out his videos on the Alexander/Arias case on YouTube, especially "Gunshot first" theory.

... a theory that disregards (among many things) the actual direction of the bullet, and the actual damage caused inside the cranial cavity, both of which indicate (to an actual expert) that the bullet did enter the brain.

In short, it's not a theory at all - it's a flight of fancy.

 

[MeeBee]

... a theory that disregards (among many things) the actual the actual direction of the bullet, and the actual damage caused inside the cranial cavity, both of which indicate (to an actual expert) that the bullet did enter the brain.

In short, it's not a theory at all - it's a flight of fancy.

It's really starting to confound me all these theories are based on the idea that the bullet cleared the brain. Guys, it is basic geometry. Bullets travel in straight lines. Draw a line from the entry and exit points in the skull cavity and it is literally impossible. The brain fills the entire skull. The fact that it even entered the skull cavity means there's no way it could have missed the brain. Have gunshot first as a "theory," but STOP ignoring basic facts of science and biology to make the "theory" fit.

 

[geevee]

Someone said that her new haircut made her look younger - NOT! I think jail life is starting to take its toll on her.
I also think that it is an abomination that she is allowed to auction of her eye glasses - even if it is for charity.

Glad the judge denied the ex parte meeting after accepting Arias' motion to relinquish her right to represent herself.

:welcome:

Welcome to the Websleuth's family, NERN!!

 

[Hope4More]

Psychopathic deviance.....that reference got me thinking. If Nurmi goes with the abuse as mitigator route OR if he plays up BPD, it would seem he opens the door for more extensive testimony about her mental health being elicited by JM.

Perhaps DeMarte can run with the psychopathic deviance results? Testimony that she scores off the charts for psychopathic tendencies might erase a couple of mitigators in one swell blow.

 

[Hope4More]

PS. I must be the only person on the planet that doesn't think she looks horrible and hugely aged in those latest pics. I never thought she was pretty. To me she looks pretty much the same. I think the shorter hair does make her look younger than she does at her worst.

I don't think how she looks will make a bit of difference.

 

[Tuba]

Of course, the killer failed in her attempt to take over the reins and show them how it's done. Is it possible that she is sunk in a slump of dejection, actually feeling like a failure? That would certainly amount to a major deviation from type. We know everything, & particularly everyone else, is always to blame for the calamities in her life. The takeover by Nurmi & Willmott requires an adjustment in the overall process even though they would have anticipated this, thought it inevitable. I just hope Nurmi does not use the switch as an excuse for delay. We do know Arias bungled the demand for police evidence--totally--and a good deal of time was lost because of her failure to proceed through the prosecution to get it. What we don't know is what she intended to do with the evidence but she would have said ​she needed to examine and evaluate it.

 

[geevee]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 16s

Juan is here wearing a peach tie and black suit. #juantiereport �� #jodiarias


Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 26s

Nurmi and Maria are here but waiting on Jen W #jodiarias

 

[geevee]

Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 3m

Jodi time. She's not in court this morning but the lawyers are supposed to discuss juror questions.

 

[geevee]

Sorry for the wait, there's just no tweeting going on....

 

[geevee]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 12s

We are running behind today #jodiarias

 

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 12s

We are running behind today #jodiarias

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