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I love this strategy, it is brilliant! My question......would JM have to inform the DT he was using this email?
No, it's already been marked as an exhibit IIRC.
I love this strategy, it is brilliant! My question......would JM have to inform the DT he was using this email?
No, it's already been marked as an exhibit IIRC.
Did Defense Expert Damage Travis Alexanders Computer Hard Drive?
November 14, 2014 by The Trial Diaries
In a new motion filed by Juan Martinez, it states that the defense expert damaged the computer during his last examination preventing the State from making a mirror image of the hard drive. The State is requesting a copy of the mirror image to examine the defendants claims made in that salacious motion handed in by defense over the weekend. Take a look, read, and see what you think The Trial Diaries
http://thetrialdiaries.com/did-defense-expert-damage-travis-alexanders-computer-hard-drive/
This makes zero sense to me. Wouldn't the state have generated a mirror image long before they turned the computer over to the defense? I could see it if the defense is supposed to generate a mirror image before they do anything, and he wants to compare before and after. But that's not how this was worded if I read it correctly.
When diagnosed Travis as a sociopath stating "he's a sociopath with how he treats women," I knew instantly she is a quack who doesn't know what she's talking about, especially when the real sociopath is sitting about 15 feet from her. A knowledgable psychologist would never have said it that way nor attempted to diagnose someone based on things said in one email chain.
The state made a mirror image before deletions happened. He now needs to make a mirror image of the hard drive as it is now, after the deletions, to do an analysis, but they damaged it. So he needs their copy. IMO.
BBM - Then again, if Juan can - in a short amount of time - convince jurors that anything that comes from JA's side of the room is a lie, that would be a good thing.
DOH! I see it now. It was the second thing I said. The defense team "damaged" it and perhaps didn't make a mirror image before doing so.
Again, I think a great strategy on cross would be to show this email to Dr. F and have her agonizingly read through it line by line and mind-read about JA's intentions and how this email shows JA's appeasement of Travis's unreasonable behavior, etc. etc.:
"Hey You
I havent heard back from you. I hope youre not still upset that I didnt come to see you, I just didnt have enough time off. Its ok, sweetie, youre going to be here in less than two weeks were going to see the sights, check things off The List, and all kinds of fun things. Oregon is BEAUTIFUL this time of the year. Yaaay!..... be happy!
Anyway I wanted to let you know that Im thinking about pushing my visit up to next week, but it depends on my budget, so Im not for sure yet. I know youll be in Cancun, but Ill probably crash at your house in your cozy bed anyway eat some of your oatmeal and frozen dinners you know, the usual jk I know you said the door is always open, but I wanted to give you a heads up. If for any reason that wont work, let me know and Ill make arrangements. Your house has always been my second home, although its a bit more lonely without Naps around. Youre probably in California right now, but wherever you are, get a hold of me, at least before you get to Mexico.
Thanks hon, -Jodi "
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and then spring it on her that it was written after Jodi had KILLED Travis and therefore maybe, just maybe, this practice of email analysis with no context is risky business.
I'd be willing to bet the defense hasn't shown the email to Dr. F--it isn't relevant to their theme. And if they have, JM could still make a big deal out of the fact that Dr. F wants to consider the context for THIS email but doesn't seem to care about that for any other email.
Yes, I agree. Especially since their "you're abusive to women" BS was in regards to his behavior pre-Jodi as well. It's not like their criticism was purely based on what JA told them. Maybe JM can somehow make it clear to the jurors that the behavior the Hudges deem "abusive" might only be abusive to them because of their own beliefs.
It doesn't have anything to do with her credibility. Everyone is hoping that Juan will call the Hughes' to provide context to these emails.
Again, you're talking about the defense presenting a picture of Travis that is lacking in context. Making the point that you can't get a full picture from a few emails is making the point that this woman did not get a full picture of Travis or their relationship. Did you actually interview these people to find out what they meant? Did you interview his other friends? Family? Previous girlfriends? He certainly made all these points, especially the lack of context, in the first trial. It is dangerous to provide your "diagnosis" of someone based on so little info. I'm sure he will make other points, as well. The lack of context thing would only be one small point and I think the point is AZL's suggestion would be a clever way to go about that.
She also says she made her conclusions by watching previous testimony. I'd be very curious if the defense allowed her to watch the cross examinations or jury questions or, you know, interviewed these people herself. She's supposed to be providing a forensic analysis and she went about it all wrong.
Again, I think a great strategy on cross would be to show this email to Dr. F and have her agonizingly read through it line by line and mind-read about JA's intentions and how this email shows JA's appeasement of Travis's unreasonable behavior, etc. etc.:
"Hey You
I havent heard back from you. I hope youre not still upset that I didnt come to see you, I just didnt have enough time off. Its ok, sweetie, youre going to be here in less than two weeks were going to see the sights, check things off The List, and all kinds of fun things. Oregon is BEAUTIFUL this time of the year. Yaaay!..... be happy!
Anyway I wanted to let you know that Im thinking about pushing my visit up to next week, but it depends on my budget, so Im not for sure yet. I know youll be in Cancun, but Ill probably crash at your house in your cozy bed anyway eat some of your oatmeal and frozen dinners you know, the usual jk I know you said the door is always open, but I wanted to give you a heads up. If for any reason that wont work, let me know and Ill make arrangements. Your house has always been my second home, although its a bit more lonely without Naps around. Youre probably in California right now, but wherever you are, get a hold of me, at least before you get to Mexico.
Thanks hon, -Jodi "
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and then spring it on her that it was written after Jodi had KILLED Travis and therefore maybe, just maybe, this practice of email analysis with no context is risky business.
I'd be willing to bet the defense hasn't shown the email to Dr. F--it isn't relevant to their theme. And if they have, JM could still make a big deal out of the fact that Dr. F wants to consider the context for THIS email but doesn't seem to care about that for any other email.
When diagnosed Travis as a sociopath stating "he's a sociopath with how he treats women," I knew instantly she is a quack who doesn't know what she's talking about, especially when the real sociopath is sitting about 15 feet from her. A knowledgable psychologist would never have said it that way nor attempted to diagnose someone based on things said in one email chain.
Did Defense Expert Damage Travis Alexanders Computer Hard Drive?
November 14, 2014 by The Trial Diaries
In a new motion filed by Juan Martinez, it states that the defense expert damaged the computer during his last examination preventing the State from making a mirror image of the hard drive. The State is requesting a copy of the mirror image to examine the defendants claims made in that salacious motion handed in by defense over the weekend. Take a look, read, and see what you think The Trial Diaries
http://thetrialdiaries.com/did-defense-expert-damage-travis-alexanders-computer-hard-drive/
Thanks for the great welcome! I am a regular trial watcher (oh how I miss Court TV)...but this trial in particular has really gotten under my skin. The audacity and clear evil of the defendant is just astonishing. I have analyzed this case and testimony to a degree that is, frankly, unhealthy. Lol. But friends will get bored with the minutiae so it's definitely great to have a place to discuss these things and get other perspectives. I have learned so much by reading here. Like the others here I am curious about the Hughes not being called to testify and explain their own emails. One thing I had heard in the past about them is that after the so-called "pedo" letters came out, the Hughes were basically tricked into thinking (by the Defense) that Travis was a proven pedophile and they proceeded to make some negative statements about him in light of that. Obviously, those letters were proven to be a fraud, but they had already made damaging statements, which would be brought to light if they were called to testify. I am not sure of the validity of this or even where I read/heard this. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to have to listen to my emails being analyzed and explained without me having the chance to give my side. One thing that is clear, the Hughes definition of abusive behavior is inaccurate. It is certainly skewed by their belief system. In fundamental Christian religions dating is taken very seriously. You don't date for fun, you date with the goal of marriage. So their opinion needs to be viewed from that lens. What they consider bad and abusive behavior is not necessarily something that other people would consider to be so. I really don't understand why these emails are even being analyzed to this degree, as if they were Gospel and the Hughes are some omniscient people with a flawless perspective that had no personal bias or agenda when they wrote them. I find it bizarre.
How in the world did I miss those tweets? You mean she diagnosed Travis as a sociopath and she has never even set eyes on him? What professional would do something like that? I am floored. Based on these emails? And how does a professional diagnose someone they have never examined?
That would be breath-taking! Amazing strategy. Sometimes I wish JM was reading some of this stuff because the thoughts on here are so brilliant.