Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 35

[Paintr]

I'm feeling very edified to read my guess at his strategy matches yours.

OK! Now let`s see you do a head stand. :laughing:

 

[daisydomino]

Finally getting time to read a bit here. What a day. Feels like it should be Friday. I had a bit of insomnia last night and watched the Wendi Andriano Snapped episode that Linask mentioned some time ago. Lots of similarities to this case. If you haven't seen it, you should. She got the DP.

I also watched part of a "women on death row" YouTube video. I've never watched a show like that because it's so depressing. It was terrible and depressing and frightening and now I hope more than ever that JA gets to experience it first hand. Even if she doesn't, there are some scary scary scary women in prison. JA needs to be there, even if not on death row.

 

[iforget]

It will be interesting when the defense brings back Geff and Fon how they will try to reinvigorate their campaign of the T-Dog. They just don't have anything to suggest it. Period. Even the messages that were heated were all after JA had moved and a month before she hacked him weren't they?

I still wish it was brought out that it was a nickname....but I have every bit of faith in Juan's ability to bring everything together clearly for the jury. However, I also believe there was so much evidence against her that the judges rulings had a play into our confusion. She decided to play a game since she thought she was smarter than everyone else because he wouldn't take the death penalty off.

 

[LambChop]

I have put up a couple of warnings about name calling. No more warnings the posts will be removed.

 

[bsk]

What he appeared to do via Tweet, is to have a Defense expert witness call out his own Prosecution witness for either being incompetent or being dishonest about a pornographic video being on the hard drive and being playable.

Some trial reporting Tweeters concluded that JM lost ground by having Dworkin testify today.

• Steve Krafft ✔ @SKrafftFox10
  
  Dworkin seems a net gain for #jodiarias defense, discussing *advertiser censored* on TA's computer. Why did prosecutor call him? #fox10phoenix
• 4hMike Watkiss ✔ @mikewatkiss3tv
  
  Martinez called Dworkin but doesn't seem to be helping State's case-def objected to Dworkin's return but seem to help "*advertiser censored* issue"#jodiarias

So what's the truth?

I think trial report by Tweet means that we're all just guessing even more than if the trial was livestreamed.

Significantly more...

Since it was admitted earlier in the week that there was 45 minutes of youporn time and a couple of pictures, none of that is a surprise.

But I do think Dworkin and the DT hooked up for him to try to come up with some dirt to throw. "Oh I just happened to do some more checking and the DT just happens to know to ask me about that." Yeah right. But at least he was honest about shooting down the Autopsy nonsense.

 

[khaki]

I still wish it was brought out that it was a nickname....but I have every bit of faith in Juan's ability to bring everything together clearly for the jury. However, I also believe there was so much evidence against her that the judges rulings had a play into our confusion. She decided to play a game since she thought she was smarter than everyone else because he wouldn't take the death penalty off.

Hi iforget :greetings:

regarding the BBM from your post, it might make you feel better to know one of the jury questions after someone's testimony (don't remember whose) was asking why JA referred to Travis as T-Dog in her journals. To me it means they picked up on it being a nickname.

 

[PenElaine]

Right and with Jodi admitting that she did have access to his emails and accounts and with it being well documented that Travis was very angry with Jodi toward the end for constantly getting into his stuff, it's not too hard to see what he was getting at. He may be hoping the jury thinks this is what the big fight was about.

I took a little time today to reread the transcripts of the police interrogations and the phone calls between CMJA and DF and it is fascinating, esp the phone calls!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...PTS-of-the-Interrogation-Videos-of-Jodi-Arias

I have never followed a trial before this one and having so much info has been eye-opening and an exhilarating insight into the psyche of a truly odd and diabolical person. Just reading her conversations with the ever-patient Detective Flores makes me think that I would be able to convict her rather quickly post admission of guilt. What a lying sack of poop she was/is.

 

[bsk]

AZL in case you're still around... The reason I was confused over the additional week or two of F & Geff testimony is that I thought during one of the arguments over precluding DeMarte that the DT said something like, "Well fine if you're going to let her testify then you have to let us recall and F & Geff." Maybe my recollection of that is wrong, but I got the impression it needed her approval, which made me think it was an extra round that they really had no right to. Or maybe I'm thinking of the above but replace F & Geff and DeMarte with BN & Sue and Smith. Does that ring any bells, or have I totally lost it?

 

[PenElaine]

BBM. Yes!! IMO, JM cast some (more) serious shade on Fonseca’s “relationship analysis,” since Fon relied heavily on communication between JA and TA to come up with her manipulative, sexually aggressive “T-Dogg” portrayal of TA v. her non-assertive, people-pleasing portrayal of JA. She didn’t interview anyone. The relationship between JA and TA was painted through texts/emails, JA’s journals, and JA’s assertions.

The jury already has plenty of reason to doubt anything JA says. They have reason to doubt JA’s journals. If they also question the validity of TA/JA electronic communications, Fon’s analysis is badly battered.

Personally, I’m thrilled with LD’s testimony. It might not be crystal clear right now, but I have no doubt JM will tie it all together in his closing.

When Dworkin originally testified, I despised him because I was certain he bowed to JW' s request to "accidentally" flip over the peen photo to check the Exhibit number so that the jury could get a good glimpse of the pic. Does anyone remember that? It was so dang obvious. But I discovered some new respect for him today... MOO

 

[PenElaine]

Boldface lying to LE in the initial investigation and interrogations.
Perjuring herself on the stand in both trial phases.

 

[casesensitive]

AZL in case you're still around... The reason I was confused over the additional week or two of F & Geff testimony is that I thought during one of the arguments over precluding DeMarte that the DT said something like, "Well fine if you're going to let her testify then you have to let us recall and F & Geff." Maybe my recollection of that is wrong, but I got the impression it needed her approval, which made me think it was an extra round that they really had no right to. Or maybe I'm thinking of the above but replace F & Geff and DeMarte with BN & Sue and Smith. Does that ring any bells, or have I totally lost it?

I recall that convo and it was when the DT was trying to preclude Dr.DM when Nurmi said it.

 

[ziggy]

What JM appeared to try to do today I've been squawking about for months.

Why would either side simply concede that the tens of thousands of instand and email messages exchanged were all composed by their presumptive authors?

That's not a rhetorical question.

The Defense might concede if their client is the one doing all the spoofing.

But the State?

I never understood this and still don't.

I would prefer to believe that this tactic isn't too little too late, but Twitter leaves me guessing.

Ziggy needs to tell me that she saw light bulbs over the jurors' heads, or today will just leave me scratching mine.

I believe everyone paying attention was left with the presumption that since Jodi lies to herself in her own journals, it's not impossible, in fact - could be likely, that she could change the name of a contact associated with the phone number and text herself as Travis.

Now, can it be proven through TA's phone records that the text was sent? I don't know, have not been able to follow the entire trial. But if the defense doesn't bring in solid evidence to counter what was left hanging in our minds, they don't have it - and the jury could conclude it doesn't exist. JMO

I talked to many trial watchers and the ladies visiting from Louisiana today and everyone caught it. The jurors pay close attention so I'm confident it did not go over their heads either.

 

[ziggy]

Alright Ziggy, you better walk right up to WAT and tell him you are a websleuther and we all just love him!!!!

IF this is you:
Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 19m19 minutes ago
This one platinum blonde gal keeps gawking over here from the gallery and typing stuff down. Kinda creepin' me oot. #JodiArias

Didn't get a chance to today, but next week the trial insiders are going to make sure I meet him. We just can't "out" him. I will definitely tell him the WS crew loves him. I personally love his witty remarks.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I believe everyone paying attention was left with the presumption that since Jodi lies to herself in her own journals, it's not impossible, in fact - could be likely, that she could change the name of a contact associated with the phone number and text herself as Travis.

Now, can it be proven through TA's phone records that the text was sent? I don't know, have not been able to follow the entire trial. But if the defense doesn't bring in solid evidence to counter what was left hanging in our minds, they don't have it - and the jury could conclude it doesn't exist. JMO

I talked to many trial watchers and the ladies visiting from Louisiana today and everyone caught it. The jurors pay close attention so I'm confident it did not go over their heads either.

Good to hear. Did you see the posts upthread asking if you were the female that WAT was tweeting about today?

Never mind, I see Lyric asked above me.

 

[kaRN]

I am thinking it probably is CMJA on the video and pictures but why did JM not bring it up. Maybe he didn't know for sure. What I don't understand, is all the years TA had that computer the only *advertiser censored* found was during a specific short time period. If he really was into *advertiser censored* the computer would have shown much more. And the bigger issue was NO child *advertiser censored*. So if CMJA was hoping to be granted an appeal on this issue it has been discussed over and over again. Consider this your appeal CMJA. I can't see an appeal granted because this was missed during the first trial.

It's like the magazine code from the first trial. He gave the DT the magazine with all the other evidence and they didn't have a clue what the relevance was until he surprised them. By not showing it until his close, he takes them completely off guard. If he showed it today, the DT would have weeks to spin it. JMO

 

[ziggy]

Wait, what did WAT say about a blonde??? I'll have to read his Twitter thread. I am blonde, that's for sure.

I will post my update of the cast of characters I was able to talk to today including a brief chat with Sky.

 

[kaRN]

Didn't get a chance to today, but next week the trial insiders are going to make sure I meet him. We just can't "out" him. I will definitely tell him the WS crew loves him. I personally love his witty remarks.

Wear something salmon coloured

 

[Kamille]

AZL in case you're still around... The reason I was confused over the additional week or two of F & Geff testimony is that I thought during one of the arguments over precluding DeMarte that the DT said something like, "Well fine if you're going to let her testify then you have to let us recall and F & Geff." Maybe my recollection of that is wrong, but I got the impression it needed her approval, which made me think it was an extra round that they really had no right to. Or maybe I'm thinking of the above but replace F & Geff and DeMarte with BN & Sue and Smith. Does that ring any bells, or have I totally lost it?

I remember that too. It was almost like a threat to make JSS preclude Dr DeMarte's testimony. Like oh yeah judge, well if you let her speak be prepared for another round of F and Geff. :floorlaugh:

MOO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Wait, what did WAT say about a blonde??? I'll have to read his Twitter thread. I am blonde, that's for sure.

I will post my update of the cast of characters I was able to talk to today including a brief chat with Sky.

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 19m19 minutes ago
This one platinum blonde gal keeps gawking over here from the gallery and typing stuff down. Kinda creepin' me oot. #JodiArias



You might want to butter him up with chocolate before an introduction, kinda' like a peace offering. LMAO

 

[franquerolane]

I'm guessing that being forced to witness the DT humiliating an elderly Mormon bishop made a big impression on the jury too. As did the fact it looked like the bishop felt the need to bring along an attorney to protect himself from being splattered by the DT's slime machine.

Just a side note, but it might be important. I was reading the 13th juror's blog yesterday and he noted that the women jurors yesterday were wearing dresses. Mormon women are much more likely to wear dresses or skirts than non mormons. When we visit Utah, I'm amazed at how many dresses I see. It would be interesting to find out there are several Mormons among the jury and how they are looking at Jodi Arias' story.