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I can see your reasoning however I don't think CA and GA would have left something as important as disposing of Caylee's poor body to Casey, if they had known straight away. She just wasn't reliable enough.

And if they had planned a coverup from then, telling people some story to explain Caylee's disappearance, why didn't they do so in the 31 days? The 911 calls sound genuine to me - at that stage CA really was worried and scared that she hadn't seen Caylee.
The 911 call is the only thing that keeps me from believing that Cindy had involvement in the crime. Now in my mind the washing of the pants points to an attempt to cover up/clean up very early on...but, that 911 call sounded real to me.

Unfortunately, because of all of the dishonesty shown by this family, I can not rule out involvement in the crime or cover up completely.
 
The 911 call is the only thing that keeps me from believing that Cindy had involvement in the crime. Now in my mind the washing of the pants points to an attempt to cover up/clean up very early on...but, that 911 call sounded real to me.

Unfortunately, because of all of the dishonesty shown by this family, I can not rule out involvement in the crime or cover up completely.

You and me both on your last sentence. But I don't believe any of the 911 calls. And my theories are just that and not set in stone either.

From the time NG broke this story, I have always believed CA/GA knew prior. Just when they knew is what I have thrown out there as my own.

CA/GA knew they were obstructing the legal system by not reporting the car immediately. They knew when they cleaned out the car. They knew when they signed their respective sworn affidavits they lied. They knew when they appeared in media junkets and in front of a mic they lied. They knew when they were testifying in court, in the depositions they lied. They knew when they gave interviews to LE/FBI they lied. GA told the grand jury what he had told LE/FBI and didn't quite lie but he also didn't tell the complete truth, leaving out many facts and his knowledge of what happened. I believe the grand jury handed down the arrest charge because of the lies and damming forensic evidence LE/SA presented even with Caylee's little body not being recovered yet.

So, when if at all have they told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

I cannot give an answer either because I haven't seen a truth yet from any of the A clan.
 
You and me both on your last sentence. But I don't believe any of the 911 calls. And my theories are just that and not set in stone either.

From the time NG broke this story, I have always believed CA/GA knew prior. Just when they knew is what I have thrown out there as my own.

CA/GA knew they were obstructing the legal system by not reporting the car immediately. They knew when they cleaned out the car. They knew when they signed their respective sworn affidavits they lied. They knew when they appeared in media junkets and in front of a mic they lied. They knew when they were testifying in court, in the depositions they lied. They knew when they gave interviews to LE/FBI they lied. GA told the grand jury what he had told LE/FBI and didn't quite lie but he also didn't tell the complete truth, leaving out many facts and his knowledge of what happened. I believe the grand jury handed down the arrest charge because of the lies and damming forensic evidence LE/SA presented even with Caylee's little body not being recovered yet.

So, when if at all have they told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

I cannot give an answer either because I haven't seen a truth yet from any of the A clan.
Exactly...can you imagine if they had been truthful from the start, well, we probably wouldn't be here trying to fill in the blanks because we would have the answers to most of our questions. They have not made our "sleuthing" job any easier, that's for sure ! :banghead:
 
I agree with all of your excellent post. I imagine that with the control CA had over her family that essentially the burden must rest on her as well. The burden of the truths she holds that we all see as lies; the burden of the daughter she held up to the light as a good mother - which we all see through now; the burden of carrying the guilt of making that first series of 911 calls when all she can do now is backpedal and redirect our attention away from the reality she has worked so hard all these years to conceal herself and the world from.



I think the "control" issue is paramount. "Control Everything" seems to be what makes CA tick. I've seen it in countless interviews. The problem is that CA wants her way when she wants it BUT she doesn't stop to think about long term ramifications. Example: CA calling 911 three times, the 3rd time she is hysterical, spilling the beans about KC's stinky car. We all pretty much agree if she'd thought this through--we would have never known about Caylee. But CA's anger and her wish to control KC in that moment is the greater force. She couldn't have believed Caylee to be dead at this point or she wouldn't have called LE. And that plays out again and again. And she just doesn't want to control KC, it's everything and everyone around her, GA, LA, LE, FBI, reporters, etc. Example: CA coming out from visiting KC and telling a reporter that her daughter says she has never been shown a photo of ZFG by LE. Why does she feel the need to proclaim this on tv? She herself knows KC is probably a sociopath, she knows for sure she is a liar. Why can't she just keep her head down and her mouth shut? She really stuck her foot in it here, hasn't she now been included in the defamation case of ZFG? She doesn't stop to think. Remember KC telling a LE officer on the day of her arrest how angry her mom (CA) was to find out that LE had been taping her every time she talked to them? On those tapes CA tells them that she and GA went to an attorney and had all necessary legal paperwork done to ensure that the father couldn't come and take Caylee away if something happened to KC? That was all lies we find out. I am sure that they have her on tape telling quite a few mistruths. I am sure CA was incensed to find out there is proof of everything she told them, it won't be a LE said vs CA said type of situation as its all on tape. CA seems to have this compulsion to say whatever sounds good, whatever will put her in the best light at that moment in time. Like KC she doesn't think long term.

My point, (sorry for going on and on) is on the 15th I think CA was in a mental s@*t storm.....she knew that KC lies, so her head is swirling, she is trying to figure out what is truth and what is lies, she is ANGRY at KC, and IMO, part of that anger is stemming from the lack of CONTROL she has over KC, at this moment and in the past 30 days. She cannot get this girl to give up Caylee and it is pizzing her off!! CA has always called the shots, now KC is blowing her off.......so out of anger she calls 911. I truly don't believe that CA had gotten to the realization that the lies, the missing g-baby, and the stinky car added up to murder. I don't think so. Not yet. She's close, but not there yet...maybe unconsciously yes, but not straight up. She is still off balance from all KC has put them through in the last 30 days. She is thinking of KC stealing from her and her grandparents, thinking about the lies KC has told her over the last month, the stolen gas cans, the car towed, thinking about all AH and RP told her about KC, and she is wondering where Caylee is, pissed that KC is making her call LE to get to Caylee. There is so much more too. It has been building b/t these two. CA turned 50 and KC didn't even bother to call and say HB. I know as a mother I would be hurt and mad. KC has cost them soo much money. CA, IMO has many many valid reasons to be terribly angry with KC.(Not saying KC doesn't have her right to issues w/CA though) IMO, I think CA is thinking "oh so you wanna play hard ball? Fine...let's play hard ball", and she calls LE as a threat, to call KC's bluff. But in between the panic and the anger and the hurt and the threats, she is beginning to see the light, it is ever so slowly coming into focus. I think she got all the way to making the third 911 call and then......BAM!!..........she starts to really get it. IMO the moments after she spoke those words out loud about the car to the 911 operator is when reality bites. Now it is too late to take that 911 call and the "dead body smell in the d@mn car" words back. And not long after that, the dust begins to settle, she begins to put 2 + 2 together. As soon as LE enters her home, I bet you, she starts the CA jibber/jabber--enough to make any persons eyes cross into the twilight zone and just pray this woman will stop talking. It is classic CA......her issue to be in control, to be top dog, the shot caller of the family.....has now landed them knee deep into what will lead to her daughter being charged for murdering her daughter. Since there are no reports released that tell us what took place in regards to the car and LE in those first hours, we just don't know what happened for sure. But I bet you, once CA "got it"(which IMO is right after she spoke the words out loud in the 3rd 911 call about the car) that she didn't bring up the stink in the car to the responding officers. I bet if they asked about it, she knew she had to answer per her 3rd 911 call but I bet she did the double talk thing she does so well if they did ask. I bet she gave info about the car being towed and thats how they knew KC wasn't in J-ville and thats why she called AH to find KC, yada yada yada, conveniently skipping over the smell in the car. But since the car was in LE's hands 24 hours later, it somehow got put together. But my money is on LE putting it together from the 3rd 911 call not b/c the family insisted LE take it, analyze it, etc.

What is funny is that since GA walks in on this mess in the middle of it happening..... and b/c he knows to take cues from CA...I think he thought that since CA called LE, that gave him permission to talk to them. He didn't know that CA had a light bulb moment in the middle of the s*#t storm and realized she was incriminating her daughter so she starts down playing things now, going with the invisi-nanny story and poor GA is left several steps behind and is giving up lots of truth to LE! Seriously I think thats how that happened. For some period of time GA didn't know that CA did an about face and so he is speaking freely to LE.

GA knew as soon as he got to the tow yard that something died in KC's car. CA? I am not so sure she got it then. IMO I think it took CA saying the words out loud to the 911 operator. But IMO both of them had major, major doubt about KC's innocence in this thing by the time LE got to their house. They probably didn't have time to think alot of stuff through but instinct told them all they needed to know. At this point it seems like they did alot of contradicting things. They tried to "appear" to be forthright with LE but in their minds they were all sorting things out and realizing KC probably murdered Caylee. We know for a fact CA thought about Caylee being dead as one of her co-workers says she called them the night of the 15th and said something along the lines of "if that baby is dead I don't know what I will do". We know from GA, in his own words says that he wondered if KC or Caylee were in the trunk b/c he knows the smell of decomp.

There is definately room for the argument that they began to cover up for KC on July 15th. The simple fact that GA says he knows that smell in her car is decomp but he didn't call LE right away is enough. WTH?? GA will call LE to report a missing gas can but not when his grand daughter has been missing for a month and the daughters car is found towed with decomp smell in it???? WHAT? We have CA washing items from the stinky car and saying the non existant nanny stole Caylee. WTH again?? CA made that 911 call impulsively, in anger and frustration. Moments later.......if she could have she'd have taken it back. Since she couldn't she began her mission of trying like h#ll to make us all believe that KC is incapable of murder. We need more info on the first hours. Without those reports all we have are our opinions. JMO
 
I hope it allll comes out at the trial...

I wonder how lil Caylee would have turned out if CA & GA had raised her? evil like KC? Weird like Lee? wimp like GA? oh and I have no nice words to describe ole CA.. shes the one who made them all whack jobs if you ask me..

TTFN

Actually George is responsible for the family roles - he lives passively
aggresively - CA got him to quit LE and George made sure she was
punished for that by failing at every job he had since. He left all the
adult responsibilities to CA , HE taught Casey about ,lying not working
and playing both sides of the fence . He flows through life like some
demented peacock , manicured but an empty shallow vessel appearance deep.
 
doogiesgirl, your post above, #141 is excellent!

You gave me exactly what I needed to read and vision could have happened if my theory gets blown out of the water.

Either way, either theory or any other ...... cover -up happened and is still on going.

As much as I loth CA as a fellow female and "mother" (I hate giving her this title), I sincerely hope she or someone reads this forum and a light bulb moment happens for her to see the light and error in her ways. If and when CA can admit to herself she is her own worse enemy, the healing and help can begin.

I am normally an optimistic person, but with the A clan, this time I am not. Sad, just very sad that her current state of mind may very well be how CA will live out her life.
 
doogiesgirl, your post above, #141 is excellent!

You gave me exactly what I needed to read and vision could have happened if my theory gets blown out of the water.

Either way, either theory or any other ...... cover -up happened and is still on going.

As much as I loth CA as a fellow female and "mother" (I hate giving her this title), I sincerely hope she or someone reads this forum and a light bulb moment happens for her to see the light and error in her ways. If and when CA can admit to herself she is her own worse enemy, the healing and help can begin.

I am normally an optimistic person, but with the A clan, this time I am not. Sad, just very sad that her current state of mind may very well be how CA will live out her life.
ITA Cindy can't deal with the truth about her family-she sure can't deal with the truth about HERSELF!!:eek:
 
Honestly, as much as I don't care for the A parents behavior I can not see either of them holding up and going on about their lives for 30 days, knowing that Caylee was dead. Further, there would have been a better plan/story to tell LE and KC would have been in cahoots with them on the details, not staying away. They would have been her protectors/co-conspirators and she would have needed their daily enabling. The fact that she stayed away tells me that they didn't know anything until the 15th of July.

When they got the car, they suspected the worst. If they already knew the child was dead, seems to me that there was no reason to call 911 at all. They could hold the car a few days and then abandon it again, this time on fire, to destroy the evidence. I mean if they were planning to help KC get away with murder, why call LE and keep the car in the garage?

It would be very hard for me to conclude that my kid killed her daughter without it being proven to me, beyond a doubt. I could not give up the hope that my child was innocent until there was nothing left to hope. I think the knowledge came to them like peeling an onion, a layer at a time until they got to the center. The center was when Caylee's body was found around the corner from the house, her mouth duck taped with a heart placed over where her lips would have been.
 
The 911 call is the only thing that keeps me from believing that Cindy had involvement in the crime. Now in my mind the washing of the pants points to an attempt to cover up/clean up very early on...but, that 911 call sounded real to me.

Unfortunately, because of all of the dishonesty shown by this family, I can not rule out involvement in the crime or cover up completely.

I agree, but why wash the pants. I don't get it! Throw the darn things out, I know that is what I would do if I were trying to cover something up. She washes bedding, she washes evidence, what the heck is wrong with this woman!

My feeling is she didn't have a clue what had happened to Caylee until the car pick up and SMELL. She had her suspicions nagging and beating down on her but she was afraid to face the truth. IMO, CA makes her own truth, as absurd as they may be. She believes what she wants and that's that for her.
Including the color of the sky, she believes it purple, it's purple, the end.

I think she knew in her heart of hearts what happened but until KC smart mouthed her, mocked her and made a fool of her, is when she was so totally pizzed that she told the 911 operator exactly what she thought ( key word is thought), she said "smelled like there’s been a dead body in the damn car” . Notice the placement of damn, it's not damn dead body but damn car but is was the damn car. Yep, cause that was the focal point, the damn evidence. The damn car has been a sore subject, dating back to the shed and the gas cans.
She knew nano seconds after she said that, that it was IT. In my heart of hearts, I believe that is the exact moment that the back peddling began. There was no turning back, only to go forward with lie after lie, to cover all of KC's BS. They all make me ill.:mad:
 
Honestly, as much as I don't care for the A parents behavior I can not see either of them holding up and going on about their lives for 30 days, knowing that Caylee was dead. Further, there would have been a better plan/story to tell LE and KC would have been in cahoots with them on the details, not staying away. They would have been her protectors/co-conspirators and she would have needed their daily enabling. The fact that she stayed away tells me that they didn't know anything until the 15th of July.

When they got the car, they suspected the worst. If they already knew the child was dead, seems to me that there was no reason to call 911 at all. They could hold the car a few days and then abandon it again, this time on fire, to destroy the evidence. I mean if they were planning to help KC get away with murder, why call LE and keep the car in the garage?

It would be very hard for me to conclude that my kid killed her daughter without it being proven to me, beyond a doubt. I could not give up the hope that my child was innocent until there was nothing left to hope. I think the knowledge came to them like peeling an onion, a layer at a time until they got to the center. The center was when Caylee's body was found around the corner from the house, her mouth duck taped with a heart placed over where her lips would have been.

I have to agree with you, Dot. According to phone records, etc, KC was talking to CA quite regularly during the month after she left home. If there was a big old fight before she left, then I think CA thought KC was cooling down & maybe getting her act together with Caylee. After a couple weeks, she misses Caylee and writes the Myspace post about her being missing, probably trying to guilt KC into coming home for the 4th without really begging her. I think CA really believed that KC was in Jacksonville with the nanny, etc. Then came the car impound notice. When they brought it home, yes they smelled the decomp. But, knowing they talked to KC quite often, they did not really assume it was a human death that occured in there. If you have smelled human decomp, you might recognize it but then wonder if an animal would smell like that too if it died in there in the heat and didn't get removed right away. In their anger at the car issue, I think they automatically cleaned it up--thinking maybe dead animal, removed clothes, etc. Maybe they were thinking they would sell the car and punish KC, knowing she would have to come home and try to get her wheels.

I think once KC was brought home and the Caylee hadn't been seen for a month story came out when she talked to LA, then all hell broke loose and
the car smell call to LE took place--the only time CA was truthful--she was frantic in fact. KC immediately jumped on the "who took her" question from CA and came up with the nanny. That's when CA began the cover up--for fear of something happening to Caylee. I don't know how long it took her to realize the truth but her mind would not accept death at that point.
As always, JMO.
 
I read my post and it doesn't gel. They pick up the car first (what I meant in the first place) and then wash the pants. Why? So I'd like to add, because they believe that car has been there and people including the tow yard folks know exactly what was in there and therefore cannot dispose of the pants. They then wash the smell out of them and then it's, here ya go, here are the pants, oops I washed them, ya know they smelled of old pizza after all. Of course that was being sarcastic, but not all that out there, after all I have heard from these people. I have smelled human decomposition and what I smelled is something that I will never ever forget! I don't know how many washes it would take to get the smell out of something that was in close proximity for so long and in the blazing hot Florida sun. Can someone help me out with that. I don't think it was one was, nope, not one bit, it had to be multiple washes IMO. I smelled it for days, like it was ingrained in my skin, I can't see how pants could be any less porous. Unless they were 100% polyester, and maybe it's non-porous. I don't know.
 
I think the "control" issue is paramount. "Control Everything" seems to be what makes CA tick. I've seen it in countless interviews. The problem is that CA wants her way when she wants it BUT she doesn't stop to think about long term ramifications. Example: CA calling 911 three times, the 3rd time she is hysterical, spilling the beans about KC's stinky car. We all pretty much agree if she'd thought this through--we would have never known about Caylee. But CA's anger and her wish to control KC in that moment is the greater force. She couldn't have believed Caylee to be dead at this point or she wouldn't have called LE. And that plays out again and again. And she just doesn't want to control KC, it's everything and everyone around her, GA, LA, LE, FBI, reporters, etc. Example: CA coming out from visiting KC and telling a reporter that her daughter says she has never been shown a photo of ZFG by LE. Why does she feel the need to proclaim this on tv? She herself knows KC is probably a sociopath, she knows for sure she is a liar. Why can't she just keep her head down and her mouth shut? She really stuck her foot in it here, hasn't she now been included in the defamation case of ZFG? She doesn't stop to think. Remember KC telling a LE officer on the day of her arrest how angry her mom (CA) was to find out that LE had been taping her every time she talked to them? On those tapes CA tells them that she and GA went to an attorney and had all necessary legal paperwork done to ensure that the father couldn't come and take Caylee away if something happened to KC? That was all lies we find out. I am sure that they have her on tape telling quite a few mistruths. I am sure CA was incensed to find out there is proof of everything she told them, it won't be a LE said vs CA said type of situation as its all on tape. CA seems to have this compulsion to say whatever sounds good, whatever will put her in the best light at that moment in time. Like KC she doesn't think long term.

My point, (sorry for going on and on) is on the 15th I think CA was in a mental s@*t storm.....she knew that KC lies, so her head is swirling, she is trying to figure out what is truth and what is lies, she is ANGRY at KC, and IMO, part of that anger is stemming from the lack of CONTROL she has over KC, at this moment and in the past 30 days. She cannot get this girl to give up Caylee and it is pizzing her off!! CA has always called the shots, now KC is blowing her off.......so out of anger she calls 911. I truly don't believe that CA had gotten to the realization that the lies, the missing g-baby, and the stinky car added up to murder. I don't think so. Not yet. She's close, but not there yet...maybe unconsciously yes, but not straight up. She is still off balance from all KC has put them through in the last 30 days. She is thinking of KC stealing from her and her grandparents, thinking about the lies KC has told her over the last month, the stolen gas cans, the car towed, thinking about all AH and RP told her about KC, and she is wondering where Caylee is, pissed that KC is making her call LE to get to Caylee. There is so much more too. It has been building b/t these two. CA turned 50 and KC didn't even bother to call and say HB. I know as a mother I would be hurt and mad. KC has cost them soo much money. CA, IMO has many many valid reasons to be terribly angry with KC.(Not saying KC doesn't have her right to issues w/CA though) IMO, I think CA is thinking "oh so you wanna play hard ball? Fine...let's play hard ball", and she calls LE as a threat, to call KC's bluff. But in between the panic and the anger and the hurt and the threats, she is beginning to see the light, it is ever so slowly coming into focus. I think she got all the way to making the third 911 call and then......BAM!!..........she starts to really get it. IMO the moments after she spoke those words out loud about the car to the 911 operator is when reality bites. Now it is too late to take that 911 call and the "dead body smell in the d@mn car" words back. And not long after that, the dust begins to settle, she begins to put 2 + 2 together. As soon as LE enters her home, I bet you, she starts the CA jibber/jabber--enough to make any persons eyes cross into the twilight zone and just pray this woman will stop talking. It is classic CA......her issue to be in control, to be top dog, the shot caller of the family.....has now landed them knee deep into what will lead to her daughter being charged for murdering her daughter. Since there are no reports released that tell us what took place in regards to the car and LE in those first hours, we just don't know what happened for sure. But I bet you, once CA "got it"(which IMO is right after she spoke the words out loud in the 3rd 911 call about the car) that she didn't bring up the stink in the car to the responding officers. I bet if they asked about it, she knew she had to answer per her 3rd 911 call but I bet she did the double talk thing she does so well if they did ask. I bet she gave info about the car being towed and thats how they knew KC wasn't in J-ville and thats why she called AH to find KC, yada yada yada, conveniently skipping over the smell in the car. But since the car was in LE's hands 24 hours later, it somehow got put together. But my money is on LE putting it together from the 3rd 911 call not b/c the family insisted LE take it, analyze it, etc.

What is funny is that since GA walks in on this mess in the middle of it happening..... and b/c he knows to take cues from CA...I think he thought that since CA called LE, that gave him permission to talk to them. He didn't know that CA had a light bulb moment in the middle of the s*#t storm and realized she was incriminating her daughter so she starts down playing things now, going with the invisi-nanny story and poor GA is left several steps behind and is giving up lots of truth to LE! Seriously I think thats how that happened. For some period of time GA didn't know that CA did an about face and so he is speaking freely to LE.

GA knew as soon as he got to the tow yard that something died in KC's car. CA? I am not so sure she got it then. IMO I think it took CA saying the words out loud to the 911 operator. But IMO both of them had major, major doubt about KC's innocence in this thing by the time LE got to their house. They probably didn't have time to think alot of stuff through but instinct told them all they needed to know. At this point it seems like they did alot of contradicting things. They tried to "appear" to be forthright with LE but in their minds they were all sorting things out and realizing KC probably murdered Caylee. We know for a fact CA thought about Caylee being dead as one of her co-workers says she called them the night of the 15th and said something along the lines of "if that baby is dead I don't know what I will do". We know from GA, in his own words says that he wondered if KC or Caylee were in the trunk b/c he knows the smell of decomp.

There is definately room for the argument that they began to cover up for KC on July 15th. The simple fact that GA says he knows that smell in her car is decomp but he didn't call LE right away is enough. WTH?? GA will call LE to report a missing gas can but not when his grand daughter has been missing for a month and the daughters car is found towed with decomp smell in it???? WHAT? We have CA washing items from the stinky car and saying the non existant nanny stole Caylee. WTH again?? CA made that 911 call impulsively, in anger and frustration. Moments later.......if she could have she'd have taken it back. Since she couldn't she began her mission of trying like h#ll to make us all believe that KC is incapable of murder. We need more info on the first hours. Without those reports all we have are our opinions. JMO
Your post is briliant! I subscribe to every word. This is exactly what I believe happened!

Kudos for taking the time to describe it all so well!:)
 
I read my post and it doesn't gel. They pick up the car first (what I meant in the first place) and then wash the pants. Why? So I'd like to add, because they believe that car has been there and people including the tow yard folks know exactly what was in there and therefore cannot dispose of the pants. They then wash the smell out of them and then it's, here ya go, here are the pants, oops I washed them, ya know they smelled of old pizza after all. Of course that was being sarcastic, but not all that out there, after all I have heard from these people. I have smelled human decomposition and what I smelled is something that I will never ever forget! I don't know how many washes it would take to get the smell out of something that was in close proximity for so long and in the blazing hot Florida sun. Can someone help me out with that. I don't think it was one was, nope, not one bit, it had to be multiple washes IMO. I smelled it for days, like it was ingrained in my skin, I can't see how pants could be any less porous. Unless they were 100% polyester, and maybe it's non-porous. I don't know.
Uh huh. "Not all that out there" after she reported the car smelling like a dead body had been in it? No way. Don't "buy it" myself...

MOO
 
Uh huh. "Not all that out there" after she reported the car smelling like a dead body had been in it? No way. Don't "buy it" myself...

MOO
Didn't she even admit that they were "stinky" pants...or am iIjust imagining that she did?
Oh, if this case goes on for another two years I will never be able to keep anything straight!!
 
Didn't she even admit that they were "stinky" pants...or am iIjust imagining that she did?
Oh, if this case goes on for another two years I will never be able to keep anything straight!!

I don't remember CA saying that the pants were stinky, I just remember her washing them. Like I said earlier, I don't know how many washes it would take. Let me tell you, it's horrid, decomp that is. I am going to find where she stated that, stinky, not decomp.
 
Didn't she even admit that they were "stinky" pants...or am iIjust imagining that she did?
Oh, if this case goes on for another two years I will never be able to keep anything straight!!

At first it was...the pants "took on the odor of the car" and later it was..."they smelled like cigarette smoke"..I remember that lead into the talk about how they don't smoke and can't stand for the smell to be in the house. I wonder what those pants will end up "smelling like" come trial time.
 
OK, found one http://www.wesh.com/news/17133977/detail.html My big ol butt she didn't know they would become evidence. Oh well, there it is. IMO, it took lot's of tide, Downey and multiple washes to get the smell out. From what I know, impossible for only one wash, and why in God's name would you wash anything taken from the "damn" car!
 
Please point me in the direction of a depo. or an interview where CA dissuses the washed pants. TIA :)
 
I imagine lots of covering up is going on -- but it's too late now as they stated the truth initially when Caylee went missing.
 
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