Revisiting clues: are there any inconsistancies?

[Donjeta]

Were Shawn and Billie Jean ever engaged? Interesting that she is his fiancee instead of girlfriend at the time of Hailey's disappearance.

If they were it was not very seriously if Billie did nothing to obtain a divorce from Clint. JMO.

 

[Peace777]

OMG I remember seeing that pic so eerie, haunting and evil/sinister! That person I wouldn't think would make a good bf of anyone who has children :twocents: Scary :hills:

 

[matou]

OMG I remember seeing that pic so eerie, haunting and evil/sinister! That person I wouldn't think would make a good bf of anyone who has children :twocents: Scary :hills:

I'm not 100% sure but I think BD likes scary masks too. JMO

 

[Mjskit]

In the first link posted by Matou of RAW video of SA he stated he quit his job then "stopped by this residence but nobody was here". Where was the footage filmed?

 

[matou]

Shawn Adkins Interview on KTAB, February 7, 2011: Transcription&#8232;&#8232;<snipped>&#8232;&#8232;

REPORTER: So also, according to the affidavits, you had originally said that when you quit your job, you went straight to Big Springs, but then there were cell phone actual pings in Colorado City.

&#8232;&#8232;SHAWN ADKINS: Well, that, the investigators asked me. They never asked which specific places I went. They go, “Where did you go Monday, when Hailey supposedly disappeared?”, and I told them I went to Big Spring, and that’s where I was at.&#8232;&#8232;<snipped>

&#8232;&#8232;REPORTER: ... the affidavits show that stories have changed. I mean, what do you say about that? Has your story changed at all?&#8232;&#8232;

SHAWN ADKINS: If it has, it was because I remembered something, and then I let the investigators know, but that’s how they say my story has changed, then that’s how it changed, ’cause there’s been some things that I didn’t remember to tell them at the time, but later I did remember, and then I told them. That’s how my story could have changed, but no, my story hasn’t changed, other than that.&#8232;&#8232;

<snipped>

&#8232;&#8232;http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hai...iew-feb-7-transcription/&#8232;&#8232;&#8232;

OK this right here shows how Shawn Adkins was deceptive and covering his arse right from the beginning. "They never asked me which SPECIFIC places I went." So if the police asked: "Shawn, did you go to Hailey's house right after leaving work on Monday morning?" would he have answered yes or no? That is a specific place. He answered that he went to Big Spring and that may be true but he obviously went to other places as well...likely to the house and to the lake in Scurry. JMO

What else did he do? Delete something from his cell phone right in front of them when they asked him to hand it over. That is beyond telling to me.

 

[matou]

Q: What happened to SA's coeveralls? Did he or did he not have them on or with him when he quit. What did he say about them and what did BJ say that he said about them?

 

[Jacie Estes]

I have a question that I can't research right now because I am not at home and I am on my phone. Going back to the volunteer appreciation dinner, was SA there at the dinner? What where his actions at that time and how close was it to the time of the warrant LE tried to serve at the house? Also, who was it that was connected to the families who committed suicide? TIA

 

[For The Kids]

If they were it was not very seriously if Billie did nothing to obtain a divorce from Clint. JMO.

Kimster she did try and get a divorce. As far as I know its not gone through yet though. Something about some papers not being filed.

 

[tlcya]

raw interview video part I

around the 1:34 mark Shawn states that around 6pm he headed to pick up Billie, whose relief had arrived a bit early. He states they drove home and went to bed shortly after getting home? Um, kay. Seems a bit early to retire? I suspect there was activity that evening that Mr. Adkins preferred not to discuss MOO

watching the video interview with Shawn re the horror flick poses with mask and knife. I have no opinion on the mask photos other than the fact that they illustrate his love of horror movies. I believe they were just photos taken around halloween. As an adult who for many years liked to dress up for halloween as a green faced, scary wizard of oz style wicked witch and who in real life was a practicing good witch, people could use the argument that I was a bad evil witch into satanism if they chose to misinterpret me in that way. the pics are a red herring for me.

Shawn is my main POI but not because of pics of him in a mask or because of him being fascinated with horror flicks.

I am interested in those things which leave him free all day (quitting his job) and having access to Hailey for those hours.

I have read he has been inconsistent in his reports about going to work, gettting fired, quitting, etc.

He apparently told LE he was fired, his supervisor tells LE he walked off the job (quit) then Shawn states he quit his job but didn't speak to anyone on the jobsite (his story now matches his supervisor's)

What troubles me is that if he quit as he and supervisor now agree he did by walking off the job within minutes of arriving, why would he be on his mom's computer investigating whether he could get unemployment during those critical hours? You don't get unemployment because you don't like your job anymore and decide to quit. You get enumployment if you are let go by your employer (fired, laid off)?

If he quit, he should not qualify for unemployment. And since he states all of that in Raw Video part I, that he went to work, collected his belongings and "quit", why would he need mom's computer? Unemployment would not be a factor. I think that is evidence that he needed to account for a trip to his mom's (taking him very near by cell phone pings to the location where the body was ultimately found).

Have we ever heard anything about the computer forensics on mom's computer about whether he spent time on it - connected to the unemployment resource sites, looked at job openings in the area, anything like that?

 

[tlcya]

Shawn in Raw video part I claims he went to the job for the sole purpose of collecting his things. This implies his quitting was a planned thing. Was Billie aware he intended to quit his job that morning? Why did he quit? Has that been explained? Most people of middle class or modest means with two income home do not simply quit their job without having the next lined up. They just don't. The household finance tends to rely on both those incomes.

Or did Shawn quit his job that day because he had something or someone to deal with that he couldn't ask for day off?

I am really hung up on this convenient quitting of the job that morning.

 

[Curious Me]

What are the chances Shawn quitting his job that day, and Hailey going missing and found dead now, have nothing to do with each other? I want to scream because it is so unbelievable.

I agree, he would not get unemployment for quitting the job. Plus, he wasn't going to tell Billie he quit, at first?
I don't know, but between the two of them the story never made sense.

Shawn quitting his job that day is the most suspicious of facts because that's when Hailey went missing. How can it be just a coincidence? He must have had something terribly important to do that day. His work coveralls being turned in or not adds another strange part to the story. Bllie saying she washed them, and now I read someplace she doesn't know if he really turned them in.

Just quitting his job like that screams that he knew something could be coming down on him and his life might not be the same. Why not just call in sick instead? I also recall the next day in the morning there was some unaccounted time before they finally reported Hailey missing.

Don't expect me to believe this had nothing to do with Hailey going missing, and now years later being found dead so close to where Shawn was. Somebody has to answer for Hailey's death.

:cow:

 

[tlcya]

found my answer to the quit or fired inconsistency.

TIFFANY TATRO: You&#8217;re now saying you quit your job but originally you had said you got in a fight with your boss and was fired from your job.

SHAWN ADKINS: No, that was untrue too. I told investigators I quit my job but I told Billie that I got fired because I didn&#8217;t want her knowing that I quit my job because I was trying to keep it from her.

But investigators found out that I didn&#8217;t get fired because Billie had told them that originally and they brought that up to me and I was like, yeah, I quit my job for reasons and I didn&#8217;t tell Billie for fear it would cause a big fight and I didn&#8217;t want to ruin the peace that&#8217;s been happening for the past six months. I just wanted to keep the peace and try to find another job and then let her know.

TIFFANY TATRO: Also according to the affidavit you had originally said that when you quit your job you went straight to Big Springs but then there were cell phone actual pings in Colorado City.

SHAWN ADKINS: Well, that, the investigators asked me &#8211; they never asked which specific places I went. They asked where did you go Monday when Hailey supposedly disappeared? And I told them I went to Big Spring and that&#8217;s where I was at. They didn&#8217;t ask which way did you go to your mom&#8217;s house or anything like that. They just asked where I was so they could verify that.

TIFFANY TATRO: You say your relationship with Hailey was completely fine but we know that when you had in the affidavits said something about Clint&#8217;s uncle said &#8220;Who could ever hurt a little girl?&#8221; You said something to the effect that &#8220;Yeah, it&#8217;s like killing a baby deer.&#8221; And according to those affidavits and the uncle you do also talk about killing baby deer all the time.

SHAWN ADKINS: That&#8217;s incorrect too. I had a talk with that uncle and he said he never said that either. And I never said that. I love animals, I wouldn&#8217;t hurt animals either.

BBM inconsistencies of SA story/timeline

Those plans fell through when the organization that invited her and her ex-husband, Clint Dunn, to speak, Traffick 911, canceled Billie's appearance after learning over 300 photos and videos containing child *advertiser censored* and bestiality were found in Billie&#8217;s bedroom dresser. Some 109,000 similar photos and videos were found on a computer confiscated from Adkin's mother's home.

http://www.examiner.com/article/stil...ks-his-silence

I have read where Billie is quote as saying that she was relieved to learn child *advertiser censored* and bestiality images were not found in her home but on teh computer at SA's mom's house. Which is true?

Inconsistent.

 

[Tugela]

LE have said that no CP was found in BD's house.

In addition, the CP that was found is listed in the affidavit for the search of the grand mothers house, and it does not mention any CP being found at BDs house.

So, the story of CP being found at BD's house is false. It is probably an example of facts being distorted by media paraphrasing and rehashing of older reports. Sort of the telephone effect.

My guess is that LE originally said their were *advertiser censored* images on items in BD's house (the data stick and SA's phone), then went on to say a much larger collection had been found on the computer at the mothers house, including some CP *advertiser censored*. Then, in one reporters mind (often these people don't write their own stories at all, it is some staffer who does it from collected notes) it became tens of thousands of CP images, both at the mothers house and at BD's house. Later on, the original story is re-reported by other reporters as a "source", with modifications made to "enhance" or "simplify" the narrative. This results in facts being distorted or being completely fabricated.

So you end up with this whole CP story going on involving SA, when actually there probably was very little CP, it likely involved images of teens who might or might not been of age (there is a lot of that around) and there was nothing to indicate that SA had anything to do with it.

 

[Tugela]

Also, Tlcya, those "inconsistancies" you talk about were not from SA, they regarded things other people have said, not him.

 

[tlcya]

thank you Tugela. Do you happen to have a link to LE clearing that up? Not doubting your word, but I am a big one for hearing such from the horse's mouth as it were. Please and thank you. Meanwhile I will attempt to verify that myself with searching for a link.

 

[tlcya]

Earlier this year, law enforcement revealed child *advertiser censored* was discovered in connection with the case. *advertiser censored* was found in the Big Spring home of Adkins' mother as well as one a jump drive in Dunn's home. Authorities say there was child *advertiser censored* on a computer seized in Big Spring. Billie Dunn says investigators told her there was no child *advertiser censored* discovered on the jump drive taken from her home

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=353136

this may be the best I can come up with as far as substantiating BJ's claim Not exactly from the Horse's (LE's) mouth but it will have to do I suppose. I was really hoping for a quote but beggars can't chose.

 

[tlcya]

Also, Tlcya, those "inconsistancies" you talk about were not from SA, they regarded things other people have said, not him.

gonna need to agree to disagree with you on that one Tugela. The inconsistencies I pointed out regarding the firedx or quit issue were a direct result of Mr. Adkin's own statements. I cannot help the fact that he now claims to have lied to Billie and had to come clean about it with LE. She did not state inconsistencies about his job situation. She told LE the truth, as relayed to her by Adkins, who was lying. The inconsistency is still his IMO.

I find it interesting that all of the inconsistencies are the result of other people telling LE false things about him. Poor fella.

 

[tlcya]

LE lies about SA and his inconsistencies about his timeline and travels that day. Billie lies to LE about him being fired based on his lie to her. The uncle lies about him and the baby deer conversation.

So many people from so many directions appear so intent on placing SA in the suspect role that they would lie about it. :innocent:

I have never been much of a conspiracy theorist.

 

[dodie20]

Shawn in Raw video part I claims he went to the job for the sole purpose of collecting his things. This implies his quitting was a planned thing. Was Billie aware he intended to quit his job that morning? Why did he quit? Has that been explained? Most people of middle class or modest means with two income home do not simply quit their job without having the next lined up. They just don't. The household finance tends to rely on both those incomes.

Or did Shawn quit his job that day because he had something or someone to deal with that he couldn't ask for day off?

I am really hung up on this convenient quitting of the job that morning.

I don't understand why he showed up for work, if he was just going to turn around and leave? Why not just abandon the job, or call in sick, in hopes of keeping the job. Or after arriving, why not play sick and leave? As for him researching unemployment, I don't have a problem with that. He was really young and may not have understood the law, or was maybe looking for a loophole. Also, he may have planned to stick to his lie of getting fired, until the cops got involved, and then decided to come clean? Anyway, was there something at work that he needed to retrieve? because really, that's the only thing that makes sense. IMO, this whole job quitting thing is a tricky situation. On the 1 hand, wow, what a coincidence, but on the other, all he did was bring more attention to himself. Would a guilty person be willing to bring this kind of attention to himself? The actual quitting part, (when there were other options), is what confuses me. moo

 

[dodie20]

Shawn in Raw video part I claims he went to the job for the sole purpose of collecting his things. This implies his quitting was a planned thing. Was Billie aware he intended to quit his job that morning? Why did he quit? Has that been explained? Most people of middle class or modest means with two income home do not simply quit their job without having the next lined up. They just don't. The household finance tends to rely on both those incomes.

Or did Shawn quit his job that day because he had something or someone to deal with that he couldn't ask for day off?

I am really hung up on this convenient quitting of the job that morning.

ok, so I just re-read your post, and the beginning part about going to the job for the sole purpose of, 'collecting his things', strikes a nerve. Did he ever say what all he got? and why it couldn't wait til another day?