They should not have been on the property in the first place. They were not only uninvited, they were told NOT to come. If they had a problem with Misty, THEY should have called 911.
...and if RC had seen them on the property he should have been the first to call. It was within his right...especially if he believed it meant trouble. Something obviously transpired prior to all this, but the police only care about who started the physical altercation. By Ron's own admission, he "touched" first.They should not have been on the property in the first place. They were not only uninvited, they were told NOT to come. If they had a problem with Misty, THEY should have called 911.
They should not have been on the property in the first place. They were not only uninvited, they were told NOT to come. If they had a problem with Misty, THEY should have called 911.
That is your rumor. That is not supported by the police report. It says "approached in an "aggressive" manner. He said that he asked Hank Jr to get out of his face and he then came closer. He thought he was going to hit him so he pushed him out of the way." Please, provide us with your eye witness information, since you continue to post as though you were there.
To me, this states that Hank Jr, having received calls from his sister and feeling she was in distress and wanting to leave (all in the Croslin's statements) that they acted in the best interest (better late than never, I guess) and arrived at her home in order to assist her in leaving as she'd stated she wanted to do. I can interpret (just like you are doing) that Ronald intimidated Misty into changing her mind. I won't, and don't need to. I can see that when the Croslin's arrived, they were met with a man screaming out of his home. I can see that Hank Jr would reply in kind and not back down, and I can also view that as it would be in any other situation.......a bully expecting to be obeyed and someone standing up to him. When the initial intimidation of yelling and beligerance didn't get the Croslin's gone, pushing (making physical contact) ensued. It's called escalation of aggression and that falls solely upon the man arrested, Ronald LeMyles Cummings.
After 3 fights and after how many times were they asked, demanded, or otherwise told to leave?! They were not going willingly if GGS felt she needed to guide them to their vehicle. They had refused repeated attempts to make them go away, but they were intent on escalating the situation.
That is so ridiculous! For a person to be able to trespass legally because there are no signs up...I don't understand especially if they are demanded to leave.
I am so glad we have the "Stand My Ground" law in place here. I can take out my gun and defend myself and my property properly when someone is coming at me with intent to do bodily harm...such as Hank Jr did to Ronald...no matter if I am standing in my own yard or not. I have the legal right to use lethal force if neccesary.
From here on out, the waters will be muddied.
Once RC gets his attorney (think Baez), we will see a different picture develop.
In the court of law, RC is the aggressor. He committed a burglary with intent to inflict harm. If you enter a dwelling (even a car) with intent to hurt a person, it is a felony. The burglary is the legal hurdle.
It is NOT rumor and it IS in the police report:
She said that when he arrived at the residence, he began a verbal altercation with Ronald. She then said that Hank Jr came at Ronald and a physical altercation began.
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He said that Hank Jr and Sr got out of the van and approached in an "aggressive" manner. He said that he asked Hank Jr to get out of his face and he then came closer. He thought he was going to hit him so he pushed him out of the way. He said that Hank Jr then hit him after Ronald pushed him and the physical altercation began.
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...ted_for_burglary_battery_involving_brother_in BBM
I don't see anywhere that it is shown that Misty has ever been abused by Ronald and that it was the reason behind this fight. I don't even see where it is stated by anyone other than the Croslins that Misty wanted to leave Ronald or the residence. They could have made it up. We haven't heard the whole story yet.
Too many people are saying it is a fact that Misty is being abused when there is nothing to back it up except their own personal experiences. Since when does one's personal experience dictate what is happening in the private life of another individual when you have NO knowledge of what takes place in their home?!
If it is true that Misty was hit by her brother and/or father during the fight...then they are the ones who are abusing her. Ronald was trying to defend and protect her, imo.
Ron had the option of staying in the house when the Croslin's arrive, and while in the house pick up a telephone and call 911 and let the police come out to the house and deal with the issue.
Even if Misty's brother was approaching Ron in an aggressive manner, Ron was the one that put his hands on Misty's brother first.
When someone approaches another person in an aggressive manner, the other person has the option to walk away.
When someone puts their hand on another person first it is an "assult", (Ron pushing Misty's brother) when the person that was pushed takes a "swing back" then the person is defending themselves.
When you read the police report it's the Croslins who are trying to get away from Ron, he's the one who keeps pursuing them, coming out of the home and right to their vehicle, reaching in and trying to do whatever????.... thus the burglary charge.
I don't see Ron defending anyone in this report.
They should not have been on the property in the first place. They were not only uninvited, they were told NOT to come. If they had a problem with Misty, THEY should have called 911.
I am not crazy and my heart doesn't pound outside my chest for anyone. I am not some school girl with a crush on Ronald. I am quite old enough to be his mother and to me it is very offensive to be considered as such. I defend him because I do not believe he had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. It is my right to do so without being categorized and called names.
Maybe these charges will stand, but I personally don't think so. What I see are trumped up charges and the SA's Office will have to take that into consideration. I don't believe we know the full story yet and maybe things will come out which may shed a whole new light on this fight.
Upon speaking with Misty she stated that she had talked to her brother on the telephone. She said that she asked him why he had been calling her residence all day. She said that he asked her if he could come over and she said no because it was too late. She said that he then made a big ordeal about not being able to see her and said he was coming over anyway.I thought Misty called them...I missed this....if they werent asked to come can you enlighten me as to why they went there? boredom? poker game? makes me wonder why the aggressiveness you would think they were there for a reason, last time I saw Lisa Croslin she was as giddy as Misty about Ron....tyia
Upon speaking with Misty she stated that she had talked to her brother on the telephone. She said that she asked him why he had been calling her residence all day. She said that he asked her if he could come over and she said no because it was too late. She said that he then made a big ordeal about not being able to see her and said he was coming over anyway.
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...ted_for_burglary_battery_involving_brother_in
Sure doesn't sound like she called them.