Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat, 4 Feb 2024 *Arrest* #10

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Well, whatever it is, it doesn't belong to LE or it wouldn't be bagged. Also it isn't something anyone would toss away, and it didn't fall out of someone's pocket as they ran across the lake. IMO the only reason for it being there is that it is related to Samantha's phone and her murder. It is the murder weapon, IMO.
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Well, if it is the murder weapon, that would certainly have given LA another reason to be hugging and high fiving.

While unwieldy, this is my latest guess about “what’s in the bag”. Not necessarily these specific items but I do like the concept of a carabiner knife attached to another item, given the similarity of the shine of the blade on this multifunction, survival carabiner.

I suppose they could have been attached to each other purely for weight for throwing / sinking…
 
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My Opinion
Re family

No protective custody
but
extreme shame and feeling of failure and despair
caused the fleeing.

Choosing place to overcome shock and find some kind of solace
far from intrusive eyes.

I think the lawyer was "organised" by Church channels.

Kids attended Catholic schools,
parents probably begged for help.
Begged for advice and spiritual support.

Parents feel destroyed.

As we say in my country:

" Small children - small problems,
Big children - big problems"

JMO
 
My Opinion
Re family

No protective custody
but
extreme shame and feeling of failure and despair
caused the fleeing.

Choosing place to overcome shock and find some kind of solace
far from intrusive eyes.

I think the lawyer was "organised" by Church channels.

Kids attended Catholic schools,
parents probably begged for help.
Begged for advice and spiritual support.

Parents feel destroyed.

As we say in my country:

" Small children - small problems,
Big children - big problems"

JMO
Alternatively, both could be true…

That is: Family could be in protective custody and parents could feel destroyed…. And family members may well be seeking spiritual guidance, solace and support via the church or other sources… :( Away from intrusive eyes…

JMO
 
Snap chat also has a map function if it is turned on shows pretty precisely where you are…
Re: earlier snapchat map discussion. Snapchat has a couple of map functions which you can choose to enable/disable. I'm a casual snapchat user and I have my map function enabled but only visible to a couple of friends in the app. But my location only updates when I use the app. So if I was, for example, out for a forest walk earlier today and snapped a pic of a flower and sent it, it'd show my location there. And if that was my last location according to the app it'd show as such, but with a note saying "last seen 5 hours ago" or however long ago it was.

There's also a live location sharing option which does exactly what it says on the tin. I think I've only used it once, and only to meet a friend in the city who was terrible at directions! You select the people you want to share your live location with and you don't have to actively be using snapchat to show up live on their map. There's a similar function available on Google Maps, from memory. Anyway from my limited snapchat usage I don't think live location sharing is something a lot of folk do.

Then there's 'ghost mode' which you have to actively select- it obscures your location (and from memory it also drops your location history from snap maps, though I could be wrong about that). Of course there's always the option of simply not ever enabling your location sharing at all, in which case you'd never need to activate 'ghost mode' because you'd never be visible on the map anyway.

IMO I would assume most 20-somethings would use snapchat as one of their primary social platforms and chances are high that they'd have a core group of friends who could see their most recent location if they did so much as open a snap from someone.

Another point on snapchat: you can absolutely save photos and videos on there. It notifies the sender, however. But it's common practice- one of my stepkids saves all her snaps, even the most boring ones I send her. And she saves sent ones to 'memories' and I'll regularly get 'memory' ones from her (e.g. on this day two years ago she was taking selfies with her chicken). So when you save a snap, it holds it in the chat log and you can scroll back and see them all, much as in the same way you scroll back through any message platform and see previous messages. You can also select 'download to camera roll' after you've saved a snap and it'll save it to your device gallery. Again, it notifies the sender you've done this. But it's incredibly common practice. Gone are the early days of snapchat where its main drawcard was that everything disappears!

Does it look more like a Hilux N70 to you? Visually, it resembles the N70 a lot, but I'm not sure. If there are any car experts here, they might be able to confirm.
I'm not an expert but it looks like a Nissan Navara to me. Police confirmed in the press conference it was not being treated as a 'hit and run'. But I also had in my mind that her death was not caused by being struck by a vehicle, though that was not stated in the press conference. I'm not sure if It's my own extrapolation or if I read it in an article somewhere. Will try and find the information to back this up but in the meantime take it with a grain of salt.

Meanwhile my theory for the whole thing is this was a planned murder though not a specifically planned target, motivated by sexual assault. Body was easily stashed in the back of the ute and disposed of in less populated forest, and phone was lobbed over the raspberry bushes into the dam while he took a 'pit stop' on the side of the road on the way there/back (hence dog detected a scent). I imagine police narrowed their original search via phone signals, crossmatched with her smartwatch data, plus dashcam or similar from other vehicles in the area at the time. Unsure how they landed specifically on murder as a charge rather than kidnapping or manslaughter, because VicPol don't use cadaver dogs as far as I'm aware. Unless there is a chemical test to determine the presence of cadaverine? Perhaps there is and that is what they found in the vehicle as evidence because that'd be fairly damning if so. Again, this is all my speculation and opinion only.

Oh, and:
Is there a clever bunny out there who can tell us what angle the Sun was from the horizon at 5pm back on that day?
The sun was at 40° at 5pm that day in Buninyong, with azimuth of 281°, according to Geodetic Calculator ☀️
 
My hunch is they are being protected, another reason why the terrorism squad is involved. AFP. Even dodgy Daily Mail can't get to them. Lol
Would certainly explain why they haven’t been found by any journalists. What’s AFP? What possible reason could his family need witness protection, unless he was acting on someone’s behalf perhaps?
 
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Well, if it is the murder weapon, that would certainly have given LA another reason to be hugging and high fiving.

While unwieldy, this is my latest guess about “what’s in the bag”. Not necessarily these specific items but I do like the concept of a carabiner knife attached to another item, given the similarity of the shine of the blade on this multifunction, survival carabiner.

I suppose they could have been attached to each other purely for weight for throwing / sinking…
Good fit. What is it?
 
I don't find it at all suspicious, or curious to get yourself the best lawyer you or your family can when faced with charges such as these.

It is possible that Galbally would take a high profile case for the exposure, and accept the Legal Aid fees as payment.
Sometimes high profile lawyers represent their client on a pro bono basis.

imo

People have wondered how Greg Lynn can afford Barrister Dermot Dann KC ... not realising that Dann is on the list of Vic Legal Aid approved barristers. (I don't think Galbally is a barrister, he appears to be described as an Accredited Criminal Specialist)

 
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Would certainly explain why they haven’t been found by any journalists.

Why on earth would the media follow PS' family around? They haven't allegedly committed murder.


11. Respect private grief and personal privacy.

 
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Sorry I’m lost! Could somebody fill in the blanks please
As in… perhaps the accused acted alone, but this doesn’t exclude the possibility that some other party conceived of the idea to murder….?

It may seem unlikely but it’s possible…. In line with the “patsy” theory… that Dotta’s unconscious (ingeniously) conceived as a joke… ;) :p:p

All conjecture of course… :)
 
Why on earth would the media follow PS' family around? They haven't allegedly committed murder.


11. Respect private grief and personal privacy.

Same reason they follow the Murphy’s. It’s profitable.
 
Same reason they follow the Murphy’s. It’s profitable.

I don't follow your logic. Eg: The media don't follow Erin Patterson's sister around. They don't follow Greg Lynn's wife around. I think Lynn has a son ... haven't seen any photos of him or where he lives/works.

I think it is very possible that a mountain is being made out of a molehill.

imo
 
Why on earth would the media follow PS' family around? They haven't allegedly committed murder.
Because that’s what they do. They will ambush them on camera and ask questions. A Current Affair, 60 Minutes would be all over this.

They would surely be interstate, they could roam around in another state and likely go un noticed, however no chance in the Ballarat area, or greater Victorian area.
 
Because that’s what they do. They will ambush them on camera and ask questions. A Current Affair, 60 Minutes would be all over this.

They would surely be interstate, they could roam around in another state and likely go un noticed, however no chance in the Ballarat area, or greater Victorian area.

As per my previous post, the media are respecting the privacy of Greg Lynn's wife, Erin Patterson's sister. Same, same.

imo
 
Would we expect him to possibly speak now? With such a high profile lawyer obviously cards will be played carefully. It’s pretty clear I think that VPOL will find her eventually, will take time, but they seem to be moving on the right track.

I assume sentencing consequences will be much more severe should they find her before he tells them? I hope they find her asap so he gets the full force of the law thrown at him.
 
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