Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat, 4 Feb 2024 *Arrest* #11

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Another thought and I can’t recall if this was mentioned before by anyone but what if the damaged vehicle was taken by Stephenson to the Murphy’s panel beating service before? . What if he had gone there for a quote recently, and chance met Samantha then.

The police have stated that Sam and PS had never met (prior to her murder).
IDK but one would think that if PS had taken his vehicle to the Murphy's shop - and Sam was working that day - that would be classed as him having met her.

imo


Despite the small-town connection, police have revealed that Murphy and Stephenson, the son of former AFL player Orren Stephenson, had never met.

 
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Is there more than one charge?

Can anyone elaborate on why, “there was not enough time to discuss the matter at the hearing”?
A 'mention' is just that. No more and no less. It has it's roots in the obligation of the State to show the prisoner is in good shape , is alive, is capable of speech ( apparently, again, Stephenson agreed that he could hear the judge , this is ''speech'' ) it is the opportunity for the State to show it has tabled all the necessary paperwork with the defence,, and that the defence has , indeed, received all the necessary paperwork, in this case, a huge file of CCTV that, according to the defence is of a size 'unprecedented'.

It is, in other words, housekeeping, of a judicial nature. but mostly, it is to show the State is responsible for the accused, and that responsibility is being carried out satisfactorily.

These days, mostly, the prisoner is shown via ZOOM but that does not lift the burden from the State to show the prisoner is alive, awake , no bruises or broken bones, etc.

Apropos of 'housework'.. Lots of us have followed cases where the accused and his/her barristers requested a 'judge only' trial, at this point, just to remember, that Victoria has a different approach to this matter. In NSW , etc. it is no big deal, the trial then becomes a matter under a judge qualified in judge only trials, ( it requires a different skill base, and they are rostered on a different table, because of this ) ..

In Victoria, the matter has to go before a judge, to decide if it's a 'judge only' trial, the concept being if it's a matter in the public good to make it a judge only trial, or not. Mostly, in Victoria, it is considered in the public interest to have a judge and jury, and it's a rare , rare case that does not. Both sides of that coin have merit, this is not the place to argue the point on it, just to remind folks that' s how it is.
 
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Police have stated they do not believe there is any connection between the accused and the family.
They have not explicitly ruled out a connection between Samantha and the accused (of which the family may have been unaware). In over 90% of murders, the murderer is known to the victim.
 
The police have stated that Sam and PS had never met (prior to her murder).
IDK but one would think that if PS had taken his vehicle to the Murphy's shop - and Sam was working that day - that would be classed as him having met her.

imo


Despite the small-town connection, police have revealed that Murphy and Stephenson, the son of former AFL player Orren Stephenson, had never met.

I don't know how the police could be certain of that? Samantha isn't around to ask and what's the accused's word worth?
 
I don't know how the police could be certain of that? Samantha isn't around to ask and what's the accused's word worth?
Exactly. The main enquiries would be coming from family and friends.
The police would have been thoroughly checking business records as well, but won't mention any new information that has come to light now, compared to earlier in her disappearance
He could have serviced his car or motorcycle there or even worked on an electrical problem at the business etc...
 
Agree , the damaged vehicle seems significant in the early days … perhaps spotted on cctv on a road nearby around that time or together with phone data pings, and then someone (his family? Someone else?) tipped off police. Or even a client who saw the damaged car when he was doing electrician work on a job. And then the police gathered more data evidence or footage thereafter and started watching him.

Another thought and I can’t recall if this was mentioned before by anyone but what if the damaged vehicle was taken by Stephenson to the Murphy’s panel beating service before? . What if he had gone there for a quote recently, and chance met Samantha then. And then when he spotted her on the bush that morning (perhaps after sleeping off a bender because being caught again drug and and alcohol affected would have been detrimental for him and his employment or apprenticeship) or even still high on a bender, maybe he then recognised her and acted out.

And again I feel he had help disposing the body and hence silent in jail. Which I’ve touched on before. An alternate theory would be he is morbidly embarrassed and ashamed of what he did and hence gone totally mute.

Total theory stuff just brainstorming here and JMOO …
Very thought-provoking post AussieSherlock. The accused seeking a quote for motor body repair - hence coming into contact with Samantha seems entirely plausible IMO.
So does your theory regarding the accused becoming totally mute as a result of morbid embarrassment and shame IMO.

The following information MAY have reduced the pool of "quoters" for smash repairs, in the opinion of the accused. JMO
One of their major competitors, Barry James Smash Repairs, had received a lot of press after director Glenn James was charged with over 300 fraud offences in November 2023 in relation to that business.
Link below - paraphrased - behind a paywall for subscribers.


JMO
 
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