Just to clarify, I think the phone was up the other end of this photo. I’m trying to find a whole dam shot at that level on the day. Is that what you mean too, or are you actually referring to the (northern?) end of the dam with the red box on it?
Did PS work for his father? They’d have similar work vehicles don’t you think? Perhaps no company decals too.
The enclosed tray would hold electrical supplies and tools ready for all the jobs.
Former schoolmate lifts the lid on Samantha Murphy's accused killer
Patrick Stephenson, 22, was this week charged with allegedly murdering Samantha Murphy on February 4 after she left her Ballarat home, in Victoria, for a morning run.www.dailymail.co.uk
That’s why I did the overlay - to ascertain where the phone was lying based on the close-up media shots of the phone on the bank on the day. I reached this conclusion as the police, the dog, and the phone are all there on the southern end closest to the road. You can see the red box on the northern end as a reference point. I think we’re agreeing.
I think the ute photo being used in the media articles is just an example of a similar ute, and not his actual ute. The caption says, “Police have seized a white ute. (Nine)”.
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I think the ute photo being used in the media articles is just an example of a similar ute, and not his actual ute. The caption says, “Police have seized a white ute. (Nine)”.
I was thinking that if he worked for his father, there’s probably a higher likelihood that they had the same work utes (as attached in my previous post). Is it a Ford Ranger?
Samantha Murphy's alleged killer's ute seized by police
Yes, that's the northernmost one of the three. You can't see the boomerang shape because of foreshortening. If you click on the Google Maps link you can walk down and see the other two dams further down the road; or if you turn the angle you can see the greenish house nearer than the red one.
I understand Rocket to be saying the phone was found at the end of the dam away from the road. Then if the thrower aimed for the middle, he didn't fall short. I think he didn't account for the adrenaline and put a little too much strength into the throw.
I agree with this. I think it was thrown from the road on the corner of the property. The phone was found in that area and that’s where it appears the major excavation work focussed. Trooper said in a recent post that the bushes were quite high and that they blocked visibility of the dam from the road. So to stand on the side of the road and throw the phone from the corner of the block outside the bushes you’d be needing to, quite blindly, pitch it up high enough to go over the bushes, travel a bit of a distance and hit the water.
IMO - Some of us take the police statement that PS acted alone as fact, we also believe that due to this, PS put the phone there. There is no ‘evidence’ as such, we’re merely taking the police at their word & if PS did in fact act alone, it’s pretty obvious that rolling on from that is that he did put the phone there. MOO
IMO - If I’m going somewhere that I don’t want to take my handbag, I’ll put my licence & debit card (which also serves as a credit card) into my phone case, I also know lots of people who do this, I wouldn’t even say it’s unusual. People are different is all.another mystery to me. Folks do all sorts of different things to me, who knew??...I would not dream of carrying my wallet, cards, etc in the same holder as my phone. Lose one and you lose the lot.. then again, maybe Samantha was not as clumsy as me, ....this sound more probable even as I type.
I don't agree with your crosses as tossing points. The top one, he'd have to cross a barbed wire fence to get there. The bottom one, I think it would be really hard to see from there--I can't get Google car in the exact spot, but it's looking like this:
IMO - Mine’s the same, it was a struggle to get the phone into the case in the first place & it’s a struggle every time I use it to hold cards as when I try to get those cards out to use them it can be a comedy of errors!
Police have said he acted alone in the murder, but have not come out and said the accused has put the phone in the dam, and he needs to be linked to the dam, otherwise there is a good chance someone else has place the phone in there.
Just an idea JLZ based on that end of the dam being a focal point of the search. You can see the access point to the adjoining property in the attached photo. It’s not impossible given the top of the fence is wooden and not particularly high. I don’t think that happened as it’s too visible and too much trouble, but it offers an alternative that enables closer access to the dam and better visibility of the dam. I am considering the bushes on the corner being chosen to hide the parked car too.
The alternative that you’re suggesting (correct me if I’m misunderstanding) is that it was thrown from further up the road at a greater distance?
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Same! Samantha’s looks secure, in tact, and like it was baking into the dried mud. Even when the officer held it upside down, the cards didn’t appear to fall out or slide.
That second photo in your post above, the dam in the background is the middle of the three dams, not the boomerang-shaped one where we think the phone was found. That "access point" is still another barbed-wire fence away from the northernmost dam.Makes you wonder if there was a report of things being thrown out of the car along this stretch of the road, or sightings, or evidence of a few stops occurring.
The first photo attached is of the police dog searching the paddock just down from the dam where the phone was found. The second is of the police accessing the neighbouring paddock beside the dam & scaling the barbed wire fence @JLZ.
“On Wednesday, police conducted a small-scale search along Slaughterhouse Road and Buninyong-Mt Mercer Road. About 12 officers searched the area, scouring long grass and scrub on the roadsides and in the edges of paddocks.”
Divers search dam as police find 'items of interest' in Samantha Murphy search
Victoria Police have recovered a phone as they search a dam south of Ballarat as part of their investigation into the alleged murder of mother-of-three Samantha Murphy.
