Found Deceased SC - Faye Marie Swetlik, 6, Cayce, 10 Feb 2020 #4

[oviedo]

@oviedo I have been puzzling about the best way to show support...I did take one (4second) dip into that FB comment section and NOPE. Maybe I will send something nice to their office.

I sent a fruit basket many years ago to LE during another missing child (Caylee) it’s hard to say thanks online IMO

 

[oviedo]

They indicated that the dump site was fresh, meaning she probably hadn’t been there since the beginning.

My guess is that he was unable to take the body away by vehicle, on account of the neighborhood being on lockdown.

I think he snuck out late at night, and carried her to that location.

Me too and I wonder if those Napa cameras caught that ? I’ve had cameras (like at pro football stadiums airports and major retail) In my houses and if they had anything decent it will be like watching a movie - we shall see
JMO

 

[Marysmith]

You'd think so but they are still coming at her mom saying she was somehow responsible or there's "more to the story", even after hearing the 911 tape, which gutted me.

Ugh. I always wondered how family could even go on camera in a situation like this. I don’t know that I could... maybe that’s the situation with her mother. What a nightmare!

 

[bellyup]

All it takes is for a victim to smile, wave or say hi to a person that has extreme inner issues to act. What might be simple and carefree to us can be a whole different matter for another person who is not thinking right. JMO

Not even. Jayme Closs just walked in her abductors path.

 

[swanniee11]

I am very much behind, I went back and I'm kind of glad I wasn't apart of most of that conversation. My question is, are we allowed to discuss "HIM" or is he still off limits? I'm not saying I have anything to add but I want to make sure I know where we're at so I don't get into any trouble. TIA

 

[Sweetsbeach]

From the previous thread --



Wow, what a great map @Truth Seeker -- a big thank you!

Oh my, she and her mom walked right in front of Taylor's apt. that day and every school day, I would assume. My heart aches to think of it. I'm betting he had allegedly seen her take the walk many days, and I betting he allegedly knew exactly where she lived.

Allegedly -- IMO, he had to have a ruse to somehow get her to go with him wherever -- it was still daylight -- anyone could have seen them together -- he couldn't just scoop her up and run away with her kicking and screaming. Did he pretend he was looking for his (supposedly) new puppy by walking down the little street, whistling "Here so-and-so, c'mon little puppy, it's time to eat," and let her hear and see him? Could she have been lured to help him? Stranger-danger, yes, but we're talking about a puppy -- or a kitten, etc. "Will you help me find my new puppy?" JMHO.

Maybe he lured her but maybe not. Snatching a child in broad daylight does happen. I know others have brought up Jessica Ridgeway for example.

Another I can think of is Rachael Runyon...when I read about her case on wikipedia recently, my stomach dropped. It's terrifying how quickly it can happen.

 

[cluciano63]

I am very much behind, I went back and I'm kind of glad I wasn't apart of most of that conversation. My question is, are we allowed to discuss "HIM" or is he still off limits? I'm not saying I have anything to add but I want to make sure I know where we're at so I don't get into any trouble. TIA

He has been identified in the Daily Mail...so probably elsewhere?

 

[oviedo]

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[diggndeeperstill]

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I am very much behind, I went back and I'm kind of glad I wasn't apart of most of that conversation. My question is, are we allowed to discuss "HIM" or is he still off limits? I'm not saying I have anything to add but I want to make sure I know where we're at so I don't get into any trouble. TIA

He has been identified in the Daily Mail...so probably elsewhere?

 

[CarolinaAsh]

Here is the map I made, accurate map. I used information that was found in multiple sources but between the videos at these 2 posts it covers everything:

Faye Marie Swetlik, 6, Cayce, 10 Feb 2020*Media maps timeline no discussion

Faye Marie Swetlik, 6, Cayce, 10 Feb 2020*Media maps timeline no discussion

I hope this helps clarify some of the misinformation.

 

[oviedo]

I am very much behind, I went back and I'm kind of glad I wasn't apart of most of that conversation. My question is, are we allowed to discuss "HIM" or is he still off limits? I'm not saying I have anything to add but I want to make sure I know where we're at so I don't get into any trouble. TIA

Nope see page 1

 

[Sweetsbeach]

How could anything but a monster hurt this precious, sweet, innocent child napping in her grandmothers arms?

Exactly! This photo just broke me. Good night everyone.

 

[Marysmith]

Maybe he lured her but maybe not. Snatching a child in broad daylight does happen. I know others have brought up Jessica Ridgeway for example.

Another I can think of is Rachael Runyon...when I read about her case on wikipedia recently, my stomach dropped. It's terrifying how quickly it can happen.

Oh my gosh I’ve never heard of Rachael Runyon. So awful and so disturbing that it remains unsolved!

 

[boomburger]

This is such a weird crime because if CT kidnapped and killed her, he doesn't have any sort of criminal history, isn't that odd?

 

[swanniee11]

Nope see page 1

Thank you. I knew he was off limits for now but I still kept seeing comments about him. I wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.

 

[MemPat]

I have family in LE and I can say they feel these cases - the presser today where he talked about seeing the kids at school and waving on their way to this presser and him choking up - they hurt and I think a simple thing we can do is acknowledge their commitment and pain by sending a message of encouragement to them on their Facebook - Full Audio of Faye Swetlik 911 Call

This was probably linked already. I can’t even keep up with this case it is moving so fast. As I was catching up on the news tonight, I noticed the headline about the trash. Back in Thread 1, we were mentioning the trash, within hours of her being missing. Golly, how I wish when his house was searched, they could have seen in his trash bin. This is just heartbreaking. Poor little girl.

‘Critical’ evidence found in trash in case of missing girl Faye Swetlik

Police also found a "critical" piece of evidence "that would have been listed on her missing persons flyer" in Taylor's trash.

About the "search" of the man's house:

Unless I completely misunderstood, the officer at the presser didn't say the house was searched.

He said they were in the house but no mention of a search.

MOO

 

[killshot]

Been following along and have a few thoughts I haven’t seen mentioned here (or I missed them).
1-Looking at the maps and her proximity to the woods from her house, I don’t think it’s out of the question to think she may go back there to play. When I was her age and played outside, I often went to the woods in my backyard to explore. Could “a neighbor” have been on their back porch smoking or taking out trash, spotted her playing and taken her without being seen?
2-in many google street view maps I’ve seen linked, there are kids, moving cars or people out on those 2 streets. To assume you can grab or lure a child in broad daylight there without being caught on camera or seen by someone feels brazen and unlikely (see point 1), but maybe not impossible.
3-I have a sneaking suspicion when “a neighbor” was interviewed and the house was entered that LE spidey-senses were heightened. Maybe the neighbor behaved nervously? I don’t think they can get a warrant based on suspicions, but if they were suspicious, I think they were watching this neighbor closely. This could also explain why they focused exclusively on the neighborhood. This person probably felt trapped and dumped her body in the middle of the night, under the cover of darkness.
When the item was found in the trash, I’m sure LE immediately put in for a search warrant and began a preliminary search of the woods again, but I bet they assumed they would find more evidence and not necessarily Faye in the woods.
My theory is that the neighbor saw the item being located in the trash and ended it for himself.

 

[Sillybilly]

I am very much behind, I went back and I'm kind of glad I wasn't apart of most of that conversation. My question is, are we allowed to discuss "HIM" or is he still off limits? I'm not saying I have anything to add but I want to make sure I know where we're at so I don't get into any trouble. TIA

Yes you can discuss him because he is named in MSM as the deceased person somehow connected to Faye's case. In what fashion we don't know. So you can discuss what is in MSM about him, just no sleuthing him as a POI/suspect (i.e. details that are not contained in MSM) ... and no direct accusations about him being the perp unless/until LE says so.

 

[MemPat]

This is such a weird crime because if CT kidnapped and killed her, he doesn't have any sort of criminal history, isn't that odd?

What we seem to know is that he had no arrest history with LE but we really don't know that he had committed no crimes before.

Jerry Sandusky IIRC had no criminal history but he had been quite busy molesting boys over a period of years....maybe decades.

Child predators are masters at grooming children not to report them.

Sweet Faye may have even chatted with this man before while she was out playing which made her comfortable walking to his home to see his pet or get some candy.

It's sickening to know there are websites that teach pedophiles a whole string of techniques to draw children in without a fight.

You've probably seen the TV documentaries where children are shown on video talking to strangers and accepting candy while their parents watch remotely.
The children had been counseled repeatedly not to do that but they did without hesitation and the parents were stunned.

Let us hope this heartbreaking tragedy steps up the warnings and makes parents even more vigilant
as it seems the lovely days of free-range children are behind us.

God bless Faye's family and comfort them with knowledge of her sweet life in Heaven.
I hope someone connects her mom with another mother who has walked this walk.

 

[Oregonmama]

This is such a weird crime because if CT kidnapped and killed her, he doesn't have any sort of criminal history, isn't that odd?

No. I think this event was just a spur of the moment and urges were being fought for a long time. JMO