SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #11

[cluciano63]

I think the family should come out and address the rumors one at a time, maybe on dateline, 60 minutes, etc. Some sort of sit down on a mainstream show. I live & work in Surfside Beach (minutes from Socastee) for an extremely conservative and religious group of people. When I came into work on Monday, I noticed Heathers missing poster was removed from our front door. I printed up the newest one and told the owners the reward had been upped and I had an updated poster. They told me they removed the original one because "no one coming here would know her" and they have "heard terrible things about her, did you know she was sleeping with a married man"? "not to be rude, but girls who go out at 3 am bring it upon themselves" OMG! I quickly corrected everyone of them and told them the poster was going on the door. Then I pointed out that if this was their granddaughter regardless of what she had or hadn't done, she deserves to be found…then they agreed. Heather's poster is on our front door again, but it makes me wonder how many other small local businesses did the same thing?

I wondered about response locally to the word of the affair...did not think that would go over especially well in SC with parts of the population. Also, there is the danger of people deciding her disappearance must have been due to her "behavior" nothing to do with them, etc...I bet a lot of people have already closed the case in their minds. JMO

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

I was not referring to specific information in this case, especially since I have no idea IF anything is being withheld by the family or by LE after told by the family.

Was she involved in drugs? Was she a drinker/partier? Did she have a fake ID? Was she involved in other relationships her family isn't proud of? Did she have a history of depression or an ED?

I'm not saying this applies to Heather's case, only that this information has been withheld in other cases and it is detrimental to the end goal of locating the missing person.

 

[stillwatersc]

Bolded by me ..this brings out the point that this guy wasn't technologically savvy, So when we discuss manipulating Sm pages and playing phone tag using HE's phone as giving false locations and times......I don't believe it applies here..is the wife of OM savvy enough to do these things on the fly when in an emotional state (possible murder)? She might be a very emotional person to start with as per the verbal assault on searchers... I don't think so ..

That is what I am hoping. However he could have thought his tracks were covered if he called from a burner or payphone. If Heather hadn't told her roomie - would LE have known OM called? But the article makes it sound like the pair exchanged calls - in which case, OM's number would have shown up. Just wish we could see the phone records!

 

[cluciano63]

Thanks for the link! and that's why I'm perplexed at members thinking anyone kept info from law enforcement.

I agree it makes me think the same thing.

Well we know her roommate spilled the beans about married guy. Not sure her family even knew about him.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I think the family should come out and address the rumors one at a time, maybe on dateline, 60 minutes, etc. Some sort of sit down on a mainstream show. I live & work in Surfside Beach (minutes from Socastee) for an extremely conservative and religious group of people. When I came into work on Monday, I noticed Heathers missing poster was removed from our front door. I printed up the newest one and told the owners the reward had been upped and I had an updated poster. They told me they removed the original one because "no one coming here would know her" and they have "heard terrible things about her, did you know she was sleeping with a married man"? "not to be rude, but girls who go out at 3 am bring it upon themselves" OMG! I quickly corrected everyone of them and told them the poster was going on the door. Then I pointed out that if this was their granddaughter regardless of what she had or hadn't done, she deserves to be found…then they agreed. Heather's poster is on our front door again, but it makes me wonder how many other small local businesses did the same thing?

That makes me so angry. Unfortunately, that line of thinking is not uncommon at all. Not just in Heather's case, but anytime a woman is a victim of a crime. I can't really blame families too much for withholding some information (from the public) about their loved ones, when people's sympathies seem to run out when the victim isn't "pure".

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

That is what I am hoping. However he could have thought his tracks were covered if he called from a burner or payphone. If Heather hadn't told her roomie - would LE have known OM called? But the article makes it sound like the pair exchanged calls - in which case, OM's number would have shown up. Just wish we could see the phone records!

What would be awesome is if he did call her from a burner phone, thinking he was covering his tracks, but because the roommate knew she spoke to him and LE has her phone records. .. the burner phone can now be linked to him.

I still wonder if this could be a stranger abduction due to the reputation of the area.

 

[Topcat]

LOL escape2sc! So your saying that its rumor that leads everyone to believe that family and friends have not told law enforcement everything?

I see that escape2sc has really answered the question as I feel the same . Her lifestyle, imo ,was played down as were the tattoos,and social media pages. Some may ask ,does it play a role in her being brought home? I say it does ! This (all that's been mentioned) is who she is,like it or not ,agree with it or not. Her thoughts she put out there ,who she hung out with and how she was treated by peers and how she treated those same peers gives a clearer picture of her. So when people say ,maybe she ran away ..well why not ? she's a free spirit but one who may or may not be very close to her family/friends ..and that plays a role in determining what she is and is not capable of doing as per her character. It's more than just a pretty face that everyone is looking for,imo.

 

[bettiepageturner]

That makes me so angry. Unfortunately, that line of thinking is not uncommon at all. Not just in Heather's case, but anytime a woman is a victim of a crime. I can't really blame families too much for withholding some information (from the public) about their loved ones, when people's sympathies seem to run out when the victim isn't "pure".

Yeah, the question always seems to be, well, what could she have done to prevent it? And if determined that some arbitrary amount of precaution was not taken.. you know the drill.

(I'm not bashing well-meaning safety tips, but those should be given before the crime is committed, not after, when Captain Hindsight has already arrived at the scene.)

 

[hockeymom4]

Thanks for the link! and that's why I'm perplexed at members thinking anyone kept info from law enforcement.

I agree it makes me think the same thing.

I am one who thinks it. I was told I can't fully discuss it by a mod, when asked on one of these pages, so I will be generic. We don't know exactly when the friends told everything to LE. Example, OM. He was told to LE right away. But the details of him and their relationship can have staggered in. One detail omitted would be information left out.

 

[passionflower]

IMO, the FHEFB run by family & friends is full of clues for LE. IMO, SMedia might trip up the perp (s). I think our computer ID numbers can be traced. If you are a criminal, they claim you always go back to the scene of the crime, right? so you would keep going back to SM also, JMO With modern day tech...........I feel this is how they will hang themselves!

 

[SharetheLight]

Thanks for the link! and that's why I'm perplexed at members thinking anyone kept info from law enforcement.

I agree it makes me think the same thing.

I so not think family kept info from LE. I do think in news and SM the family tried to portray HE as someone who was one sided, church going, volunteering etc.
I think HE was much more dynamic than how she was portrayed and I think by keeping the other sides of her hidden from the public for such time they may have missed some clues from the public. Public tips are very helpful especially in missing persons cases.
I think her family may have a difficult time merging the two heathers, totally my opinion.
I don't see two Heathers I see one dynamic and interesting young lady who was forging her way, making mistakes along the way, but owning them as she went (isn't that what life is about?) and she deserves to be found at all costs.

 

[OldSteve]

Just a thought, it's not good for a gal to be out alone, or even in all male company (as in Lauren Spierer's case) in the late night/early morning hours - many cases have that in common.

Not good for an old goat like myself to be out then as well.

It's a question of vulnerability... not one of morals..

Of course, there's poor Holly Bobo who was taken at 7:30 in the morning from in front of her house..

 

[imamaze]

Sometimes people don't always tell everything right away because they think they are protecting the one they love or a best friend. Friends may be sworn to secrecy to never tell something and not understand how important a detail may be. From my observations and my opinion, HE's family was very religious and her lifestyle may not have aligned with their views. She may have felt judged and may have not wanted them to ever know about things. 20 yr olds may not understand that you need to tell these things right away, where older people do.

At the same time, I know of a case locally where someone was missing and they said she was nut depressed or suicidal. She was later found having committing suicide. Having known someone who knew her, they told me she battled depression for years and her family refused to confront it and never told LE about it. She was over 50. I don't get it.

There is more that I would love to discuss about that photograph, but based on the comments yesterday, i will keep it limited. I was under the assumption that photograph and the fact that it was received was told to the public a month ago. I am not understanding the reason why it was so long before it was made public.
Unless maybe I missed a previous article missing it. I read article after article mentioning everything but this. I sort of understanding excluding the 6am initially, but do not understand excluding this text message and picture.

Do you have something specifically that HE's family kept from LE because of her lifestyle? I just don't see that here.

I only see Heather's mom and dad doing anything to help find Heather.

What difference would the picture have made if it was released the day she was reported missing to the public?

The 6 a.m. call was never kept from law enforcement so again what would it have changed had the public known about it
right away? How would this have helped find Heather? I guess I'm not undestanding what you all are saying here.

Some people may keep things from law enforcement because they think they are protecting the one they love but I don't see that
being the case here with Heather. I see family giving law enforcement everything they can from day one because they want the
one they love back.

 

[OldSteve]

What would be awesome is if he did call her from a burner phone, thinking he was covering his tracks, but because the roommate knew she spoke to him and LE has her phone records. .. the burner phone can now be linked to him.

I still wonder if this could be a stranger abduction due to the reputation of the area.

BBM - since her car was found at a location known/used by her and others she knew, I don't think it was a stranger. I wonder if her car was equipped with on-board GPS - would tell us allot, perhaps LE has that answer.

 

[passionflower]

IMO, I think LE KNOWS who is responsible for HE disappearance, they just have to prove
exactly when, where, what. This is why they aren't having a Presser or Asking for public's help. IMO, they do not fear for public's safety. LE KNOWS this was someone HE really knew!!!

 

[passionflower]

BBM - since her car was found at a location known/used by her and others she knew, I don't think it was a stranger. I wonder if her car was equipped with on-board GPS - would tell us allot, perhaps LE has that answer.

I am so dumb on cars. How do you know if your car has GPS??? TIA

 

[floridamomma]

I was not referring to specific information in this case, especially since I have no idea IF anything is being withheld by the family or by LE after told by the family.

Was she involved in drugs? Was she a drinker/partier? Did she have a fake ID? Was she involved in other relationships her family isn't proud of? Did she have a history of depression or an ED?

I'm not saying this applies to Heather's case, only that this information has been withheld in other cases and it is detrimental to the end goal of locating the missing person.

Respectfully, I don't see how, say, an eating disorder is going to have any affect on location her body.

ETA: I DO agree with some of your point, who she is will help find her.

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[Dr. Know?]

My apologies if this is a repeat. I don't think this is Heather, but hope it's one of the 28 missing in SC.

Bones Found In Wooded Area Off Groce Rd. In Greenville Co.

Posted: Jan 23, 2014 7:40 PM
Updated: Jan 24, 2014 5:06 AM

According to reports the sheriff’s office has not yet made a determination as to the cause of death, the identity of the remains or the period of time in which they were located in the area. Further testing will need to be done to in order to confirm such details. Authorities are also waiting on those same tests, to determine the gender.

more

http://www.wspa.com/story/24535557/...-co?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[OldSteve]

Her car might have GPS...

http://www.carid.com/2001-dodge-intrepid-navigation/

 

[jkloc420]

I think everything is smoke and mirrors. It's odd to me they haven't released any information about Wednesday afternoon or beyond. I am thinking LE must know what happened that day so their trying to match it up with a perp. Maybe certain things happened that day only the perp would know.