SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #26***ARREST**

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I think it was just conjecture about what happened after 6am since we have no phone record/communication info after 6am. If the phone was off but people were calling and leaving messages or messaging wouldn't they show up on phone records?
If SM and HE were back and forth communicating from 2-6 then why would SM cease to contact her after 6am if he thought she was still alive? We know why HE stopped communicating.

If her phone was off, the only calls that would show up after it was turned off would be calls that went to voicemail with that person actually leaving a voicemail.

A text sometimes doesn't show up until once it's read by the receiver. That could depend on the cell carrier.

Also, if Heather has a different carrier than Tammy & Sidney, and if any other phone was utilized in calls such as a payphone or landline that has a different carrier as well, updates on exact time and GPS/pings of those calls could show up on Heather's bill at delayed times. Each company has their own data system and bill filtering & assignment divisions.

However, pings are a different story. It could still possibly ping unless the battery was taken out. I'll bet the battery was taken out right there and the cell was ditched and maybe that's why le focused on searching PTL & that very near waterway bc ts the last place it pinged. Maybe? Idk, just guessing.
 
If her hone was off, the only calls that would show up after it was turned off would be calls that went to voicemail with that person actually leaving a voicemail.

A text sometimes doesn't show up until once it's read by the receiver. That could depend on the cell carrier.

Also, if Heather has a different carrier than Tammy & Sidney, and if any other phone was utilized in calls such as a payphone or landline that has a different carrier as well, updates on exact time and GPS/pings of those calls could show up on Heather's bill at delayed times. Each company has their own data system and bill filtering & assignment divisions.

However, pings are a different story. It could still possibly ping unless the battery was taken out. I'll bet the battery was taken out right there and the cell was ditched and maybe that's why le focused on searching PTL & that very near waterway bc ts the last place it pinged. Maybe? Idk, just guessing.

I'm sure the M's phone records show when SM/TM stopped calling Heather. Coincidentally, it's around when Heather disappeared I assume. The records would also show WHO they called around that same time ... Possibly getting help or alibis in order. Just my thoughts ...
 
Good morning all- I have a question and please excuse me for not knowing, I am brand new here. I have found accounts on the reunion site that have profiles for both TM and SM. I am tempted to buy in(you have to in order to see them) I am willing to do it, can I copy and paste the info back to here to share?
 
I know there is a reason.

Yes, she was moved. Georgetown County jail is where she is being housed. She was booked and incarcerated at Horry County jail. She's just being kept at a different facility for a period of time. She wasn't incarcerated in Georgetown County so ~ it won't show on their 'inmates listing/booking page. Hope that makes sense.

I wonder if it was done to not only protect her so they can try to obtain clues as to Heather's whereabouts, but maybe she was also moved to keep her & Sidney separated so it's not as easy to pass notes back & forth...

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_d584ebf6-9ff2-11e3-9efb-001a4bcf6878.html

Tammy Moorer, charged with murder in Heather Elvis case, moved to Georgetown County jail for "safety and security"
Posted: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:05 pm | Updated: 5:17 pm, Thu Feb 27, 2014.


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"I can only confirm she's being held at the Georgetown County Detention Center," Cuthbertson said.

Sgt. Jeff Benton with the Horry County Sheriff's Office said Moorer was moved to Georgetown around mid-morning Wednesday for "safety and security" reasons.

Benton said there was no specific incident that prompted the change. He said it's a common practice when co-defendants are booked at the same facility.
 
Good morning all- I have a question and please excuse me for not knowing, I am brand new here. I have found accounts on the reunion site that have profiles for both TM and SM. I am tempted to buy in(you have to in order to see them) I am willing to do it, can I copy and paste the info back to here to share?

Hi. Im new as well so I can't answer that. There are still things I am afraid to say, lol. Still learning.
 
Maybe LE felt she was becoming unstable and decided to pull the plug on them . Maybe it was a good time for them to apply more pressure on both of them by overwhelming them with the search and arrests thereby hoping one or both would crack.


I think LE acted when they did because they felt TM was getting too unstable. Remember after the M kids were removed from the home (when TM & SM were arrested), how LE said something about "they're not in any danger"? Why would LE say that, instead of saying the kids are safe, or in the custody of whomever, etc.? This leads me to think that LE must have felt the kids were in danger being in the home, hence the issue of danger being at the forefront of LE's mind when releasing a statement.
I think if things had gone on much longer, & the noose had gotten tighter around TM & SM, they might have stopped having diarrhea of the mouth (keyboard) & threatening to sue the world, & perhaps taken out their entire family in a murder-suicide. Remember Josh Powell? Something like that... :( JMO MOO

I'm thankful LE acted when they did. This already horrible & volatile situation could have gotten even worse, if they hadn't. JMO MOO


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Except that police said they are confident that Heather drove herself to PTL, in which case she'd most likely have had her cell on her person and pings with concurrent texts/calls would jive.

Hi Topcat!

Hi there Jersey*Girl..... Does LE know when she got to PTL? If she arrived there early in the AM (say prior to 3AM) ,then we have no idea if it was her using the phone or her location once the phone was out of her possession.
 
Good morning all- I have a question and please excuse me for not knowing, I am brand new here. I have found accounts on the reunion site that have profiles for both TM and SM. I am tempted to buy in(you have to in order to see them) I am willing to do it, can I copy and paste the info back to here to share?

Good morning....I think there are pictures somewhere on the board of the 10th HS reunion
 
I'm just throwing this out there and it's just my opinion. I think that after killing HE and not getting arrested right away as well as HE not being found...I think that the M's decided that they were going to make money off of this situation. I think they were provoking anyone and everyone in order to have grounds to sue. We have WC going after searchers with a stick,who weren't even ON his property but near it. The same searchers have said that TM and her sister were driving by while they were searching for HE and taking pictures of the searchers. Last night we saw TM's sister taking pics of the reporter and flipping off the camera. I'd love to know when the cameras were installed at the M's. TM has posted several videos saying that people can be seen destroying her property and even her friends couldn't see what she was claiming. Can't forget about that white truck that was stalking and shooting/aiming at the M's and the final effort by TM was her last post stating that enough is enough,we are suing everyone!!! Then we have the cousin from last night's interview. He tells everyone on social media that he's doing that interview and then he appears in shadow and with his voice altered? He claims that he's getting threats from his own family as well as HE supporters. I've yet to see one HE supporter say anything but,welcome...tell us about TM and SM. He seems to be prepping to sue as well.:twocents:
I think that all was a weak ploy to throw people off in their suspicions that they were involved. Going on the offense so to speak.
 
Hi there Jersey*Girl..... Does LE know when she got to PTL? If she arrived there early in the AM (say prior to 3AM) ,then we have no idea if it was her using the phone or her location once the phone was out of her possession.

I don't know when she arrived there, but she spoke with BW before she left and it is about 11-14 minutes from her apt to PTL. Depending what route she took. I know of 3.
 
I'm headed to Surfside and then I am going up kings hwy to see if I can find the payphone from the news video. That's been bothering me and then coming back via 544 to go by PTL. Im curious to see if survelience near pixie dust r us address. You never know, lots if things in my mind that have me puzzled.
 
I don't know what pics I take can be posted on here, I will message Ima to find out those rules when I get back!
 
re: 6 am phone things..

I don't have a link handy, but all those articles, I think, were pretty particular in their wording describing the phone activity. It said it was between HE's phone and the married man. Not the married man's phone. Not HE + married man.

Also, if so many of us had the same suspicions about the timing of the hospital visit and search warrant, I wonder what TM thought about it, and whether or not she had time to ask (or accuse) SM about it.
 
re: 6 am phone things..

I don't have a link handy, but all those articles, I think, were pretty particular in their wording describing the phone activity. It said it was between HE's phone and the married man. Not the married man's phone. Not HE + married man.

Also, if so many of us had the same suspicions about the timing of the hospital visit and search warrant, I wonder what TM thought about it, and whether or not she had time to ask (or accuse) SM about it.
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/loc...722-81fa-11e3-a440-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

States exactly what you said ... 6 am between her phone and SM. Good catch!! :)
 
Good morning friends! I was thinking about this case last night (especially after I found out that Sidney use to live 1.2 miles from my house :eek:) That got me to wondering if his parents still live there, which led to me think that maybe if his mom and dad went to visit with him, they could convince him to come clean. They were estranged and then Sidney made that FB comment about 'missing his parents'. I can't help to think that a reunion might help. I'm assuming the reason for estrangement was because of TM but that's JMO
 
I think that all was a weak ploy to throw people off in their suspicions that they were involved. Going on the offense so to speak.

Agree but they are also a sue happy bunch. A bit of both I suspect.
 
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