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:floorlaugh: It would be better to cuff him to something useful...like the vacuum cleaner.
Oh, too funny SS. Yep, the vaccum cleaner would be my first choice too.
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:floorlaugh: It would be better to cuff him to something useful...like the vacuum cleaner.
Definitely a defense strategy but I think it was the prosecutor who brought this out at the bond hearing. Maybe I'm mistaken and it was SM's atty. Either way it is strategic I'm just hoping that the strategy was played by the prosecutor. Lol
I can't help but wonder: did SM know, deep down, what his wife was capable of? I've got no doubt my husband could and would kill someone to protect his family... but he wouldn't risk it all over an affair. he'd be hurt, pissed, he'd be furious. but he wouldn't go THAT far.
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SM and TM were out having sex in their vehicle according to LE so my guess is he wasn't working, but he could have taken breaks I suppose. He seemed to work for restaurants/bars a lot and they don't close until after 2:00am in a lot of places. I don't think we know where he was working during that time.
According to article quoted in these threads earlier: "Elder said during initial interviews with police, the Moorers admitted to going to different areas of the Myrtle Beach area in the early morning hours of Dec. 18 after Elvis disappearance to have sexual relations."
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/03/18/4104390/testimony-weaves-a-tale-of-how.html
If that is so, and SM admitted to such, they won't need a video for the IE charges, they have a confession.
There was a body found here in Charleston... I'm not sure if it's at all related, but I figured I'd mention it.
http://www.live5news.com/Story/25016049/police-body-found-in-water-off-ripleys-point
The prosecution brought out just enough details at the bond hearing to keep the Ms locked up, so the information they disclosed was strategic. All info they disclosed needed to be just enough to show a danger to society or a flight risk.
With that in mind I'm wondering why the 6 month probation details were disclosed at the bond hearing. The details of such don't really point toward a danger to society or a flight risk.
I'm thinking those details came out to maybe let someone know that someone else has shared some information with LE. This leads me to believe TM probably did not know that SM had given these details to LE.
It was the prosecution you are correct. This 6 mth information had zero relevance to them being a flight risk. The Pros put that out there to poke n goad at tammy. Haha your husband told on you! I'm about 75% sure sm is talking to his attorney about a plea deal with LE. Ask yourself this question: why would a husband elaborate to police that he was handcuffed? LE wouldn't ask "what consequences have you suffered from your wife because of the affair? They were asking about Heather. Where, when why... not about HIS wretched life. That info was to stress His innocence and point the finger at his evil monster wife imo. Smh.. he disgusts me beyond measure. That dog will hide behind any chair.
Did you all read the article about him and his family and an unknown friend? I am looking forthat link. The unknown friend said the rift in the relationship was because they didn't agree/like his lifestyle. Wondering about that word lifestyle.
I think IIRC the 66 days was regarding something with Heather's sister.
I think at the bond hearing LE/State was just giving enough information to prove that SM/TM were the last people to have any contact with Heather. They also brought in enough information to show that they were dangerous the Elvis family as well (journals etc).
I do wonder if the pay phone issue is not just a one time thing. We know from the bond hearing that SM was no longer allowed to have a cell phone and TM even monitored his SM. So, I think the pay phone was something Heather and SM had done before. Maybe not this particular pay phone but I am sure that there are plenty of pay phones near the TK he could have had contact with her. When relationships end, it is not uncommon for some contact to happen a few times after to make sure that it is the best decision. They couldn't speak to each other on his cell, so he went to a pay phone. Honestly, calling her using his cell was probably a stupid thing to do anyway. Usually affairs are 'fun' because of the duplicity and the risks involved of having someone find out. People usually go to great lengths to hide them. So a pay phone seems to me something that they would have used more than once as a form of communication to meet.
I also am not 100% on board that they were not 'together' after Oct when they supposedly broke it off. Just seems hard for me to believe that one day they were together and the next they weren't. IMHO
Kelly
I also realized yesterday the reason TM didn't just "divorce or kick out" SM after his affair like many (here and on public forums) have wondered is because she needs that control. She knows she had/has control over him, why would she give up all those years of hard work and possibly NEVER find another man who would give up control to her? No way. That is likely the reason she didn't kill him. I honestly believe SM's life may have been in way more danger than he ever realized. ALL MOO & IMO of course.
Oslo, I am super duper tired, but you mean SM right? Or do you think she called hersome other time from this payphone?
I keep asking and never get an answer to this question. Has it been proven that TM and or SM sent pictures of themselves having sex to heather? This keeps getting posted like it is fact and maybe it is but I just want to see where that comes from since the IE description I read said it came from SM confessing to sex in his vehicle with TM but no mention of pictures.
Can someone post a link to where I can see this actually happened or is this just an opinion?
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But Elder said police learned the couple went to the places and had sex, then Tammy Moorer sent photos of their sexual positions to Elvis.
If TM wasn't aware that SM called HRE from the payphone then HRE called his cell phone which was in TM's possession...you have the catalyst. From that moment on...things could have spiraled into a murderous rampage. TM would have been outraged knowing HRE was back in the picture after all the "preventative measures" taken by her to keep SM away. Big time motive.
BBM, I dont believe that to be the case - we havent heard anything said by LE or family that they found a packed bag, or the signs of Heather packing a bag. In my past experience following cases, IF there is something to make LE or family think she may have been going somewhere, they would have said as much. Ie, there was a partially packedbag on the bed or a packed bag left in the car. Of course, LE really hasnt said much outside of the hearings.
Of course, I could be wrong. But I dont think thats what happen.
I just wish we could fast forward to the trial already - the more time that lapses, the more time the theories will grow into something WAY bigger than they really are. :scared:
But then again, I guess thats half the process :blushing:
Did they say what kind of red car it is??? I've never seen this either. I have never seen a red car in their driveway in any of the photos from the arrest and search. I have also not seen a red car at all when I drive past their house. Or stopped and taken pics to share on here.