SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton *Guilty* #41

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JMO as I can't find what I'm looking for right now, but I do not bleive AM and MM were in attendance at the oyster roast but another member of the Murdaugh family was there.

EDITED TO ADD: I read the depositions and Randy Murdaugh and his wife were at the oyster roast that night.
That's right, thank you for clarifying that!
 
I think the lawyers for the Beach family have stated previously that Paul's parents were grossly negligent in that they not only turned a blind eye to Paul's habit of heavy, underage drinking (and driving) but that they also provided alcohol on a very regular basis to Paul and his underage friends. They also were aware that Paul was using Buster's ID to purchase alcohol illegally.

Also, maybe someone here can verify this for me, but wasn't it reported that one of the places Paul and his friends went to earlier in the evening before the crash was an oyster event where he socialized with Alex and Maggie. They allowed him to leave on the boat knowing he had clearly been drinking in their presence.
I apologize if I've got that wrong.
sorry, I dont recall reading that his parents were at the oyster roast with PM and his friends.

IIRC, the owners of the home (oyster roast) were sued, provided alcohol to the group, settled their lawsuit fairly quickly. what I do remember is that the lawsuit alleges MM knew and facilitated underage drinking, as she 'liked' PM's social media pics which showed him drinking alcohol, that she spoke with him earlier and knew he was intoxicated and she paid for the alcohol he bought and consumed via her credit card.
 
I am not a prude in regards to drinking, but I have always felt that demonstrating appropriate alcohol use is important as part of being a parent. Giving kids sips of wine during holidays, important events was accepted. But encouraging under age drinking, by giving them a credit card to buy alcohol? No.

Did I let my 18 year old sons drink beer at home? Sure, once they finished the yard work....have a beer. One.

That is teaching responsibility and alcohol use. INMO. And never, ever drive after drinking, even one beer. Call us, we will pick you up, anywhere, any time.
 

Would someone please explain something to me?

I assume Paul was driving Alex's boat, but other than that, what does Alex have to do with it?

Paul was 20, an adult, Alex wasn't even there that night. So why is Alex going to trial for this?

If my adult son drove my car with his friends and went drinking then drove drunk and killed his friend, it is my son who would be charged not both of us.
Alex owned the boat, where his son illegally drank alcohol and caused the accident. I think the property where the boat is also owned by Murdaugh. The Owner is considered responsible and can be sued absolutely. MOO
 
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I am not a prude in regards to drinking, but I have always felt that demonstrating appropriate alcohol use is important as part of being a parent. Giving kids sips of wine during holidays, important events was accepted. But encouraging under age drinking, by giving them a credit card to buy alcohol? No.

Did I let my 18 year old sons drink beer at home? Sure, once they finished the yard work....have a beer. One.

That is teaching responsibility and alcohol use. INMO. And never, ever drive after drinking, even one beer. Call us, we will pick you up, anywhere, any time.
Same here!
 
You'd likely never go to court because your insurance company would likely advise you to settle with the family. MOO
RSBM

IIRC, someone mentioned that AM no longer had proper insurance coverage, because he was in the process of wangling over $4 million out of his insurers for the death of Gloria Satterfield.

Maybe everyone already knows this, I drop in only occasionally.

I've been looking for a timeline of the Satterfield insurance lawsuit. It was launched in Fall, 2018.

The first dodgy payment was transferred to AM on Jan. 7, 2019. (The boat crash was February 23, 2019.)

"Over the next two years, Fleming and Westendorf negotiated a payout of over $4 million from the two companies with which Murdaugh held insurance — Lloyd’s Underwriters and Nautilus Insurance Company."

Demonstates yet again, how the boat crash derailed all of AM's carefully laid out criminal schemes.

JMO
 
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If my adult son drove my car with his friends and went drinking then drove drunk and killed his friend, it is my son who would be charged not both of us.
This is why you need third-party liability insurance.

To be safe, I'd make sure my insurance company knows I sometimes allow my son to drive my car. My insurance premiums will likely go up, significantly, but it could save me from bankruptcy.

ETA: The Murdaugh's were completely immersed in this stuff, they sued insurance companies for a living, for several generations.

JMO
 
I think the lawyers for the Beach family have stated previously that Paul's parents were grossly negligent in that they not only turned a blind eye to Paul's habit of heavy, underage drinking (and driving) but that they also provided alcohol on a very regular basis to Paul and his underage friends. They also were aware that Paul was using Buster's ID to purchase alcohol illegally.

Edited to remove my incorrect recollection of Maggie and Paul reported as being present at the oyster roast prior to crash. They were not present. Thank you to sleuths who clarified:)
I agree on negligence of the parents with the alcohol use. They may have looked away but doing nothing is a decision, an unspoken one. It surprises me that no one was hurt prior to the boat accident.

There are FB photos of PM from more than a few years ago showing him with a full tray of shots. It was before noon and its captioned with something like ‘We are ready for game time’.
 

This article lays out "Motive, Means, Opportunity", completely objective, he did it. The information that AM couldn't provide the missing guns, missing clothing nails it. He must have been high to think he could get away with this crime.

High, as in, above anyone else.

He found out that he wasn’t high enough.
 
This is why you need third-party liability insurance.

To be safe, I'd make sure my insurance company knows I sometimes allow my son to drive my car. My insurance premiums will likely go up, significantly, but it could save me from bankruptcy.

ETA: The Murdaugh's were completely immersed in this stuff, they sued insurance companies for a living, for several generations.

JMO
I don't know if this differs state by state, but I have a friend who was in the car her boyfriend was driving, that belonged to his father. She sued and won. This was in NJ in the '80s.
My brother was in a head on collision(also NJ) with a girl who was driving her Daddy's car the wrong way on the street, and hit my brother, and many injuries. He sued her Father and their Insurance Co, and also won. Medical bills alone can be extremely expensive in those cases.
 
clearly his lack of concern for himself and remaining son Buster was telling. In retrospect as so much of this came out in trial even members of his immediate family in court had to start realizing there could only be one killer. That limited time reward that was out there was just a ruse. Clearly in the beginning Maggie's sister and family did not think Alex was responsible as they set out on a trip to I think it was Key West with him that Paul's friend Tuten mentioned. He took they to the airport. That was about a month after the murders.The crime itself was so poorly planned and executed. His behavior afterward that he thought was so cleaver was just so transparent. For the "smartest guy in the room" he sure looked dumb in that courtroom.
This is an excellent point. If it was me I would of never told my son to come there. I would make sure he was safe with police.
 

Would someone please explain something to me?

I assume Paul was driving Alex's boat, but other than that, what does Alex have to do with it?

Paul was 20, an adult, Alex wasn't even there that night. So why is Alex going to trial for this?

If my adult son drove my car with his friends and went drinking then drove drunk and killed his friend, it is my son who would be charged not both of us.
Well, for one, the boat belonged to him and he knowingly lent it to Paul knowing that Paul intended to drink.
 
I think if he shot Maggie first, her son Paul would have tried to save her. So sad. This Psychologist is so knowledgeable, and in tune with this type of dysfunctional family system. MOO
Thanks for posting this YT. Although it's almost a couple of hours long, it's very inciteful about dysfunctional families that can apply to more than Murdaughs. I was not familiar with Dr. Matthias and glad I listened.
 
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