Search of MR's house Aug. 14, 2013

[SiriuslyB]

Has there been any new press on this case at all? Such a shame for poor Dylan. If the dad is responsible, I hope he's arrested soon. If he's not responsible, I hope someone didn't get away with murder because people are hell bent on the dad being guilty. Dylan needs justice and the back and forth from one side to another is not helping.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

it takes time for tests to be completed, some of those tests may be close to being finished depending on any backlogs. LE have kept very quiet about this case all along. IMO they know far more than we do and that search warrant would not have be granted without very good reason.

LE were obviously not on a wild goose chase doing a search of Middle Mountain, something led them to want to search Middle Mountain IMO and thank god they did search there.

 

[rosesfromangels]

it takes time for tests to be completed, some of those tests may be close to being finished depending on any backlogs. LE have kept very quiet about this case all along. IMO they know far more than we do and that search warrant would not have be granted without very good reason.

LE were obviously not on a wild goose chase doing a search of Middle Mountain, something led them to want to search Middle Mountain IMO and thank god they did search there.

Yes indeed. These findings were not "luck". Someone has provided information, in addition to the trail of evidence. I think there will be a star witness at trial. MOO.

I would like to know who MR spent time with the day prior/day of Dylan's arrival. This would be quite revealing, I would suggest.

As always, just my opinion and speculation. Fasten your seatbelts folks, karma is about ready to show up.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Yes indeed. These findings were not "luck". Someone has provided information, in addition to the trail of evidence. I think there will be a star witness at trial. MOO.

I would like to know who MR spent time with the day prior/day of Dylan's arrival. This would be quite revealing, I would suggest.

As always, just my opinion and speculation. Fasten your seatbelts folks, karma is about ready to show up.

Exactly, look at the whole area and it would have been like looking for a needle in a haystack. For LE to arrange a comprehensive search of Middle Mountain with various agencies involved they had to have known something.

thinking about the search warrant being sealed, IIRC the request and reasons/good cause for the warrant to be sealed would have to be explained to the Judge, I believe there is a standard that the request would have to meet to be granted. IMO possible reasons why an order would be sealed are risk - flight risk of a suspect, risk of evidence being destroyed by a suspect and/or risk to officers.

ETA

the following may be of interest

How much information do police officers need to establish that “probable cause” for a search warrant exists?

The Fourth Amendment doesn’t define “probable cause.” Its meaning remains fuzzy. What is clear is that after 200 years of court interpretations, the affidavits submitted by police officers to judges have to identify objectively suspicious activities rather than simply recite the officer’s subjective beliefs. The affidavits also have to establish more than a “suspicion” that criminal activity is afoot, but do not have to show “proof beyond a reasonable doubt.”

The information in the affidavit need not be in a form that would make it admissible at trial. (For example, a judge or magistrate may consider hearsay that seems reliable.) However, the circumstances set forth in an affidavit as a whole should demonstrate the reliability of the information. (Illinois v. Gates, U.S. Sup. Ct. 1983.) In general, when deciding whether to issue a search warrant, a judicial officer will likely consider information in an affidavit reliable if it comes from any of these sources:
◦a confidential police informant whose past reliability has been established or who has firsthand knowledge of illegal goings-on
◦an informant who implicates herself as well as the suspect
◦an informant whose information appears to be correct after at least partial verification by the police
◦a victim of a crime related to the search
◦a witness to the crime related to the search or
◦another police officer.

http://www.criminal-lawyer-colorado.com/searchwarrants.html

 

[KateNY]

Thanks for the above post ^^ aust amateur slueth

Just FTR, for those that may not be as familiar, this was the 2nd search (with a warrant) the search on Nov 29, 2012, was also with a warrant.

:twocents:

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Thanks for the above post ^^ aust amateur slueth

Just FTR, for those that may not be as familiar, this was the 2nd search (with a warrant) the search on Nov 29, 2012, was also with a warrant.

:twocents:

thank you I should have noted that it was the second search and warrant.

Being the second search warrant means they couldn't use the same reason as was on the first warrant, they would be required to show reason why a second search of the premises was necessary.

 

[kdaniels1234]

Interesting. I didn't think about the possibility that the poker could be used to move rocks or dig out rocks. I would not assume LE would want the poker if Dylan had done that, but if anyone else used the poker to chip rock out, hide something behind the rock, then replace the rock. Or if the poker has been seen elsewhere (outside, in the truck)

Also, if it happened to be a "Blow-poke", it could have something stuck in the tube end or ends. (Those are made to blow into to get oxygen to a fire-also used for barbeques)

What if the poker was used to dig where dr remains were found?

 

[kdaniels1234]

Maybe there are two rooms upstairs. One called "my room" and one called "his room". Has anybody ever mentioned the layout of the house especially upstairs? I'm surprised there is not an "our room" since he says "we" so often.

see attachment of county assesors map of house, sorry I dont understand the abbreviations

 

[aust amateur slueth]

What if the poker was used to dig where dr remains were found?

what if there were marks on the bones that were found that could have been made by a poker.

 

[Confusion]

see attachment of county assesors map of house, sorry I dont understand the abbreviations

I doubt if it helps with anything, but the abbreviations mean:
BAS -> Base Area
FAT -> Finished Attic
FUS -> Finished Upper Story
UGR -> Unfinished Garage
UOP -> Unfinished Open Porch

UWB - I'm not sure about

 

[rebeccaeee]

I doubt if it helps with anything, but the abbreviations mean:
BAS -> Base Area
FAT -> Finished Attic
FUS -> Finished Upper Story
UGR -> Unfinished Garage
UOP -> Unfinished Open Porch

UWB - I'm not sure about

Unfinished (something) balcony? That portion of the floorplan is the side of the house where the external stairs are located and, presumably, the external stairs where LE dug a hole during the latest search.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I doubt if it helps with anything, but the abbreviations mean:
BAS -> Base Area
FAT -> Finished Attic
FUS -> Finished Upper Story
UGR -> Unfinished Garage
UOP -> Unfinished Open Porch

UWB - I'm not sure about

Unfinished Wood Deck (Go figure)

The following link has these two different than what you have:
BAS-Main Level
UGR-Unfinished garage attached

http://co.laplata.co.us/sites/default/files/departments/assessor/documents/key_codes_0.pdf

 

[Indy Anna]

Yes indeed. These findings were not "luck". Someone has provided information, in addition to the trail of evidence. I think there will be a star witness at trial. MOO.

I would like to know who MR spent time with the day prior/day of Dylan's arrival. This would be quite revealing, I would suggest.

As always, just my opinion and speculation. Fasten your seatbelts folks, karma is about ready to show up.

I have a feeling the "witness" isn't someone MR spent the previous day with, but rather who he met with the day after Dylan arrived. I think MR probed his lawyer extensively, including questions that might appear incriminating after one's son disappears and is later found deceased, because he wasn't sure how he would explain Dylan's sudden disappearance and how it would affect him financially. Perhaps he even asked some questions about lawyer/client confidentiality. IMOO

I'm thinking a verbal clue from the lawyer led LE to search MR's house the first time, and then lab results from that search led to the second search. If the time between the 2 searches is an indicator of how long it takes to get the lab results, we have a bit of a wait. :maddening:

 

[Indy Anna]

Welcome
to Websleuths kdaniels!

 

[Crosby87]

Just occurred to me, could they have been looking for Dylan's personal effects under the outside stairs? JMO

Yes. Absolutely Miss J. Because none of Dylan’s personal belongings were found near his remains on Middle Mountain, one can't help but think someone purposely hid them. Even though I don't think they were hidden in MR's yard, because LE haven't named any suspects yet, I'm glad they got a search warrant and went over MR's property with a fine tooth comb. Even though Dylan's belongings are likely in another state, you never know, so I hope they are miraculously found soon.

I noticed the thread titled, “If you could know the answer for 1 unsolved case” and thought "yeah, if Dylan’s backpack or any of his personal belongings were found that would help a lot."


(PS, my former username was Bluesky#1)

 

[kdaniels1234]

Welcome
to Websleuths kdaniels!

Thank you

 

[MissJ]

Looking for results of forensics. None I see.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Looking for results of forensics. None I see.

Perhaps, but I am visualizing our hero LE working late in to the night examining all the findings painstakingly, and preparing their recommendation to the D.A....."enough to convict....recommendation to proceed with arrest!"

Keep thinking positive thoughts. Justice!

 

[margarita25]

What if the poker was used to dig where dr remains were found?

Good thoght, but IIRC from the exterior photos, there were a couple of actual shovels on the Redwine property. (If any of these were used, one would think he might discard of them, but who knows...)

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Good thoght, but IIRC from the exterior photos, there were a couple of actual shovels on the Redwine property. (If any of these were used, one would think he might discard of them, but who knows...)

IIRC there is a photo of two police officers walking (although it looked like one) and there were three shovels leaning against the house.

I don't expect we will hear the results of the forensics, LE have kept very quiet throughout their investigation and I don't think that will change.

praying that justice is near.