Sentencing and beyond- Jodi Arias General Discussion #1

[RR0004]

Just to put things in perspective, the guilty verdict was two years ago today:

http://linkis.com/ktar.com/305/1832356/Mobh2

Can't watch this often enough!!

 

[salberg7]

The murder was almost 8 years ago, the verdict 2. What's wrong with that picture? The Alexander family had to wait almost 8 years for the killer to be sentenced. I can't imagine how they have suffered too.
Regarding that $60K, I will believe it when I see it. I also think the Alexander family could care less about getting any money. I think they just want to prevent the killer and/or her family from making money from a book, and luckily we have Son of Sam Laws for that. I am sure the State of Arizona have forensic accountants and a fraud division to investigate bankaccounts, trusts, etc. I am sure criminals have tried this before, it's not their first rodeo. Again, CMJA is not precedent setting, she is not special. Just knowing the Alexander's will get a portion of the killer's commisary account money is divine justice.

 

[RickshawFan]

The murder was almost 8 years ago, the verdict 2. What's wrong with that picture? The Alexander family had to wait almost 8 years for the killer to be sentenced. I can't imagine how they have suffered too.
Regarding that $60K, I will believe it when I see it. I also think the Alexander family could care less about getting any money. I think they just want to prevent the killer and/or her family from making money from a book, and luckily we have Son of Sam Laws for that. I am sure the State of Arizona have forensic accountants and a fraud division to investigate bankaccounts, trusts, etc. I am sure criminals have tried this before, it's not their first rodeo. Again, CMJA is not precedent setting, she is not special. Just knowing the Alexander's will get a portion of the killer's commisary account money is divine justice.

I, too, would guess this was true. I'm sure they'd get some satisfaction, though, over Jodi having to suffer somehow.

I still think getting her commissary fund docked for the rest of her life is going to torture Jodi 'til the end of time. This is going to be way worse than if her "donations" are confiscated. It'll affect her every single minute, maybe finally wipe that smirk off her face. And the Alexanders will certainly get her commissary fund docked.

I can't figure out why she's declared indigent for the sake of her appeal, either. Does AZ know about the slush fund? Is there a rule that if you are indigent at the first trial level, you are indigent for the one appeal you're entitled to?

In some ways, I wish JA's public attorneys would just get the appeal filed quick quick, followed up by a snappy (let's hope snappish and snippy, too) judgment from the appeals court and the inevitable rejection by the AZ supreme court. Because she can't have an appeal do over. She would be done before she has a chance to blink.

I'm sure a private attorney would be happy to take on the post conviction appeal: just for the money. The end result is a lost cause, since JSS gets to decided whether the verdict was appealable or not (fat chance), but easy pickings for those dollars if they're available. Of course, they'd likely only cover 25% of the costs, so said attorney would be likely to bail as soon as the money is spent. And there's no public defender to pick up the pieces.....

 

[TexMex]

#gladimnotinperryville

 

[Jasper52]

Judge Upholds Constitutionality Of Arizona's Death Penalty

 

[FLmom777]

Might be the browser you are using. When I tried Chrome the other day, I couldn't use any of the thanks or reply links, so I switched back to Firefox.

yeah and who prey tell would be interested in his weight loss? He is only well known because of the trial. I don't want to hear anything about him except that he isn't practicing law anymore or that his business has folded.

Ahh. That explains it. His business folded so he has no money for food.

 

[geevee]

The word on the street has it that Jodi's supposed guys (which most likely don't even live in the US) might know how to launder their money... First they might have someone lump all of the contributions together, after that they might or might not have someone buy some Bitcoin (using amazon gift cards and such) then they might have some one put it in e-Wallets (which they might have them create under a false name using a VPN) and after that they might or might not work their magic from far away lands without any serious threat of legal prosecution from the US authorities until the dosh is squeaky clean (by squeaky clean I mean until 20 to 30 foreign court orders might be required to trace the origin of the Bitcoin (which itself could have been bought on the black-market which would make tracing its origin that much harder)) and safely tucked away in offshore or even US accounts...

There will be no problem in seizing known assets, but there's just no way to trace "hidden" assets which might or might not exist... unless of course the authorities get some of her supporters to roll on the money-laundering scheme (which is rather likely and which must be the goal, because this money might be used by the person in question to try and further questionable ends).

Legal Disclaimer: This is just an assumption based off of second-hand information. I don't engage in money-laundering. I don't condone and hereby denounce money-laundering. The above-cited scheme is provided for informational purposes only and should not be used to launder money under any circumstances!

By the way guys, I appended a Legal Disclaimer for the reason that you are known to make unbased assumptions about me.

I think the problem with laundering any monies is it would have to be out of her control to make it 'clean' and I don't see her agreeing to that, she is nothing if not very control oriented and would have to have implicit trust in whomever was moving the monies, I just don't see that in her. But who knows, desperate people do desperate things, and we've seen before from her.

 

[RickshawFan]

I think the problem with laundering any monies is it would have to be out of her control to make it 'clean' and I don't see her agreeing to that, she is nothing if not very control oriented and would have to have implicit trust in whomever was moving the monies, I just don't see that in her. But who knows, desperate people do desperate things, and we've seen before from her.

The problem with non-standard tender is that funding Jodi's commissary account is going to require actual $$$$$.

 

[Wolfpack Fan]

Just to put things in perspective, the guilty verdict was two years ago today:

http://linkis.com/ktar.com/305/1832356/Mobh2

Monica has this wrong. Jodi was found guilty of first degree PREMEDITATED murder. All twelve of the jurors did not vote for FELONY murder.

 

[Predator]

The problem with non-standard tender is that funding Jodi's commissary account is going to require actual $$$$$.

The "hidden" money ,if there's some, will most likely go to buy "favors" in prison from other inmates... You can't buy heroin or muscle from a commissary account every convict knows that. If you really want her to suffer then come down on her supporters as a ton of bricks

 

[Quiet Time]

I've been trying to reply to post# 569-w/s won't let me....

Yes, there is a form for that. And they do send them in!!!
You can mark my words on that. lol

***that's all i can divulge.

 

[Predator]

On a misinterpretation note, I want to add that there are two sides to every story, but only one to a fact (like that Barack Obama is the US president, that 9/11 was no falseflag operation or that no one is going to attack Texas and such) and the proven fact here is that Jodi killed TA in cold blood with malice aforethought.

 

[Predator]

I've been trying to reply to post# 569-w/s won't let me....

Yes, there is a form for that. And they do send them in!!!
You can mark my words on that. lol

***that's all i can divulge.

Fraudulent activity form 14157 and form 14157-A

 

[ElleElle]

The word on the street has it that Jodi's supposed guys (which most likely don't even live in the US) might know how to launder their money... First they might have someone lump all of the contributions together, after that they might or might not have someone buy some Bitcoin (using amazon gift cards and such) then they might have some one put it in e-Wallets (which they might have them create under a false name using a VPN) and after that they might or might not work their magic from far away lands without any serious threat of legal prosecution from the US authorities until the dosh is squeaky clean (by squeaky clean I mean until 20 to 30 foreign court orders might be required to trace the origin of the Bitcoin (which itself could have been bought on the black-market which would make tracing its origin that much harder)) and safely tucked away in offshore or even US accounts...

There will be no problem in seizing known assets, but there's just no way to trace "hidden" assets which might or might not exist... unless of course the authorities get some of her supporters to roll on the money-laundering scheme (which is rather likely and which must be the goal, because this money might be used by the person in question to try and further questionable ends).

Legal Disclaimer: This is just an assumption based off of second-hand information. I don't engage in money-laundering. I don't condone and hereby denounce money-laundering. The above-cited scheme is provided for informational purposes only and should not be used to launder money under any circumstances!

By the way guys, I appended a Legal Disclaimer for the reason that you are known to make unbased assumptions about me.

Heck, they can be laundering it at some casino in Reno for all we know.

 

[Predator]

Heck, they can be laundering it at some casino in Reno for all we know.

You have to be a very stupid person to launder money this way and an "old chum" who spent 8 years in prison would know better than to launder money this way.

(For all we know) there might be a whole underground world of backstairs dealings and backroom transactions out there in Bitcoin where among other things pedophiles might launder their money this way to get away with buying kiddie *advertiser censored* or even live kids from smugglers or Cartel to pay for their hits. Bitcoin is the only viable way to buy favors(what good is money which you can't spend?) on the inside and plus all it takes one or two trusty minions to do so.

Some interesting reading on the topic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)

 

[space71]

The murder was almost 8 years ago, the verdict 2. What's wrong with that picture? The Alexander family had to wait almost 8 years for the killer to be sentenced. I can't imagine how they have suffered too.
Regarding that $60K, I will believe it when I see it. I also think the Alexander family could care less about getting any money. I think they just want to prevent the killer and/or her family from making money from a book, and luckily we have Son of Sam Laws for that. I am sure the State of Arizona have forensic accountants and a fraud division to investigate bankaccounts, trusts, etc. I am sure criminals have tried this before, it's not their first rodeo. Again, CMJA is not precedent setting, she is not special. Just knowing the Alexander's will get a portion of the killer's commisary account money is divine justice.

As a point of fact, the murder was almost SEVEN years ago. Approx 6 years 11 months by my count. June 2008 to May 2015. Just for accuracy's sake

 

[RickshawFan]

Heck, they can be laundering it at some casino in Reno for all we know.

I would imagine the money flow in Reno is likely to be out of Jodi's "trust" and into casino coffers. That's what happens when you associate with crooks, predators, shady folks, people who blame others for their own behavior, and women who defend their psychopath daughters.

 

[salberg7]

AngelWings, your post was spot on. Very well stated.
CMJA acted alone and with premeditation. She was convicted with solid direct evidence, she confessed to the murder,her DNA was found in her blood mixed with her victim. Yep, that ship has sailed.
I don't believe the killer has any money. Why should I believe anything she,her minions or her family say now? After 7 years (thanks to the poster who corrected me above), should we believe anyone on the killer's side would begin to tell any truths when nothing but lies have come out of their mouths since Day 1? Not likely.
$60K, if it exists, won't get her very far. No doubt some of her followers will send her money orders or Securepaks, but if the Alexander family win restitution (which is quite probable) it is going to take an awfully long time to save up to buy a fan or a TV.
CMJA will soon fade into obscurity. She will never get out of PV.
My interest continues in that I want to read the sidebars, attorney communications, etc. Seems that something new pops up weekly on this case and my curiosity continues. This is not a dying thread.
,

 

[Predator]

AngelWings, your post was spot on. Very well stated.
CMJA acted alone and with premeditation. She was convicted with solid direct evidence, she confessed to the murder,her DNA was found in her blood mixed with her victim. Yep, that ship has sailed.
I don't believe the killer has any money. Why should I believe anything she,her minions or her family say now? After 7 years (thanks to the poster who corrected me above), should we believe anyone on the killer's side would begin to tell any truths when nothing but lies have come out of their mouths since Day 1? Not likely.
$60K, if it exists, won't get her very far. No doubt some of her followers will send her money orders or Securepaks, but if the Alexander family win restitution (which is quite probable) it is going to take an awfully long time to save up to buy a fan or a TV.
CMJA will soon fade into obscurity. She will never get out of PV.
My interest continues in that I want to read the sidebars, attorney communications, etc. Seems that something new pops up weekly on this case and my curiosity continues. This is not a dying thread.
,

CMJA acted alone and with premeditation, that she did.

 

[RickshawFan]

No doubt some of her followers will send her money orders or Securepaks, but if the Alexander family win restitution (which is quite probable) it is going to take an awfully long time to save up to buy a fan or a TV.

My favorite part of this is that the Alexanders are going to get a large percentage of any money order that gets sent to Jodi's AZ prisoner trust account.

Here are some examples from the Securepak menu?

The only cheese choices:
Velveeta 2 oz. Jalapeno Spread
Philly 2 oz. Cream Cheese w/ Jalapenos

The only chips:
Moon Lodge 6 oz. Stuffed Jalapeno Potato Chips
Moon Lodge 6 oz. BBQ Potato Chips
Cheetos 8 oz. Flamin' Hot Crunchy [C G]
Cactus Annie's 5 oz. Nacho Tortilla Chips
Fritos 10.5 oz. Chili Cheese Corn Chips [C]
Lay's 5.5 oz. Flamin' Hot Potato Chips
Doritos 8 oz. Nacho Flavor

How about this for deodorant?
Lady Invisible Dry 1.4 oz. Anti-Perspirant Shower Fresh: a product to turn a princess who thinks she smells good into a "yippee we can't see her any more" convict.

Have you even heard of some of these products? Everything on the Securepak would put a person on death row from indigestion!