Sorry not personally attacking you Seaslug, but isn't the fact that Shannan said they were going to killer her still proof she was murdered?
Waltson, I have been sleuthing this case extensively since the very beginning. If you go back and read the old discussions you can certainly find a time when I was furious thinking the same thing (that the fact that she said they were going to kill her and then she died was proof enough that she was murdered). But then I kept digging deeper and deeper.
The facts of this case then lead me to question under what circumstances do killers allow their victim to make a 911 call and stay on the phone for 18 minutes while the police tried to figure out what island she was calling from (yes; they DID NOT even know if she was on Fire Island, Long Island or Jones' Island and either did she).
I then started to question why anyone would kill SG when they were fully aware that she brought a driver to protect her.
I then started to question whether or not SG was anything like the GB4 in that she was driven to client's homes while the others were clearly stalked by their killer.
I then started to question whether or not JB was intelligent enough to be the LISK.
I then started to question whether or not MP would be so stupid as to be the LISK and to kill the one girl they could easily trace to him.
When the crazy stuff about CPH's call came up the sleuthing clearly revealed that although he might be a colorful strange character who loves to inject himself into other people's business, he clearly is not the serial killer type.
I then started to question if CPH was the serial killer, why be so good at covering his tracks with the GB4 but so sloppy with SG?
The facts of this case then lead me to question under what circumstances does a person wind up dead but not murdered after a frantic call announcing that he/she was going to be killed. The answer I found was not under most circumstances
unless the person has a known history of mental illness such as bipolar disorder. A little more research and I discover a long, long history of bipolar illness, refusal to take her medication to treat that illness, chronic use of cocaine & ectasy, a troubled childhood where she was removed from the care of her mother's home due to physical abuse and ANGER; lots and lots of anger. Her family, friends and neighbors all described this anger in the form of uncontrollable rages and emotional outbursts. Her rage and "episodes" were nothing new to MP because they had occured frequently (this WAS NOT the first time she ran from a client's home screaming and having one of her bipolar episodes).
Further sleuthing revealed that in addition to not taking her medication, being under huge amounts of stress, constantly putting herself in harm's way with her prostitution & drug use, she was clearly not healthy because she dropped a large amount of weight in a very short period of time. Further sleuthing revealed that she was at extremely high risk for heart attack, stroke as well as suicide due to all of the factors mentioned above.
Bottomline was that she clearly stopped caring about herself or her well being. She was in an abusive relationship that included severe violence and she didn't care about herself enough to get out of it.
I totally understand the emotions involved here for those who seek justice for Shannon.
I get it.
I understand that there is a rage... an anger against JB, CPH, MP and the rest of the Oak Beach gang. The unimaginable happened the evening of May 1st 2010. A mother lost her daughter. Siblings lost their sister. A baby lost her aunt. A bright young lady who was dealt a bad start to her life died before she ever had the chance to turn her luck around.
It is a tragedy on so many levels.
I understand the rage against the police investigators and against the Oak Beach association for appearing to do very little to investigate her case when she first disappeared.
I think the absolute most difficult obstacle I had when I attempted to sleuth this case was to distance myself from all of that rage and emotions (that none of us can help but to feel when we first look at this case). Then, as time went on and I weighed each and every aspect of this case I eventually found new ways to approach and evaluate the facts without the emotions clouding my vision (I guess I sort of grew numb to it all over time). I still have not made any conclusion as to what has happened to SG because we are missing so many pieces to the puzzle that we cannot possibly ever know without a confession that she was indeed murdered.
All I can say is that once you rise above letting the emotional aspect of this case get the best of you, the facts start to speak for themself and the likelyhood that SG was murdered by one of the Oak Beach clan or that the LISK accidentally stumbled upon her that evening becomes less with each passing day and the likelyhood that the police got it right that she died accidentally starts to reveal itself as being the more obvious answer.
I know this seems cold and harsh because it doesn't allow the justice that everyone seeks for Shannon.
Maybe one day the LISK will be caught and we will know the truth whether or not SG was one of his victims.
Until then, keep on sleuthing and try to do it with an open mind and without the rage and emotions that so easily cloud our judgement.
And please don't lash out at others who have been sleuthing this case for a very long time.
