It just seemed a little strange GC had his deck torn down & redone....I wondered what evidence could it have had.....we do not know, as we were not there & we do know that GC has lied so ..... maybe Shannan was hurt there first....anything is possible & that community is a bit suspect IMO.Agreed.
Concerning water level/depth in the marsharea back in May 2010, here is the answer:
two to three feet
http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/exam-of-remains-may-reveal-cause-of-death-1.3388774
Quote:
Mari Gilbert said she's waiting for autopsy results but doesn't buy the theory that her daughter ran into the marshy land, which police have said would have been under two to three feet of water at the time.
She said her daughter was afraid of water and did not know how to swim.
"If she would've felt wetness, she would have turned around," Gilbert said.
Note!!! that there is a lot of interesting info by Dr Baden on how they can find out wheter she drowned or not even if the remains are skelton + more.
Here is a link to an article where GC describes Shannan falling "half way down the stairs":
CBS New York
More Human Remains Found In Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Probe
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04...h-long-island-in-serial-killer-investigation/
Here is a link to a story where MP alleges that JB "grabbed" Shannan "from behind":
NJ.com
Jersey City prostitute still missing after 13 months of
searching
Published: Sunday, June 12, 2011
By Amy Brittain/The Star-Ledger
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/06/jersey_city_prostitute_still_m.html
I stated that March/April not flukeyou, he agreed. I don't live anywhere near the area, nor have I ever visited the area. I also made the other statement & Fluke You agreed. I don't understand you many people constantly throw him under the bus.
Also no one admits to the black drugged NYC street walker who was drugged & claimed she was going to be killed. She feared for her life.
I have heard there were threads here in reference to also confirming this. It was pretty gisturbing people wanted her name etc....Like WHY?????? Just a conformation is appropriate, why would any1 want someone in possible danger. Lots of responses from posters there were extremely concerning & upsetting....that is why it is NOT THERE ANYMORE.... that site clearly was deeply connected to a person of interest IMO. Because it was deflect & attack....than twist.
So I am saying leave FY alone. I am concerned he has people after him....as a lot of direct threats were made....& naturally Barn/Jim the site runners IMO were miss leading.....got close to family due to sight....But they didn't agree that Shannan belonged on it & felt she was connected to SK....now they made these posts ....I have them
Here is a link to the A&E special, which is where Pak is interviewed. I had misspoken saying 48hrs. I get them mixed up.
Long Island Serial Killer Documentary - YouTube
And 48 hrs
Long Island Serial Killer - YouTube
Hope these help
Is it just me or is Pak EXTREMELY suspect in the 1st video??????
"Uh, uhm, er, hmmmm"
STHU!
That was my immediate reaction to him...super sketchy. Plus I don't like how both him and Diaz are wearing sunglasses in their interviews. It may just be a pet peeve of mine since I in general think it looks dumb when people where shades inside or at night (cue Corey Hart), but you're being interviewed about your supposed friend being missing. It's not time to look cool or gangsta and it makes you look creepy and suspicious because noone can see your eyes:banghead:. Just MOO!
Is it just me or is Pak EXTREMELY suspect in the 1st video??????
"Uh, uhm, er, hmmmm"
STHU!
That was my immediate reaction to him...super sketchy. Plus I don't like how both him and Diaz are wearing sunglasses in their interviews. It may just be a pet peeve of mine since I in general think it looks dumb when people where shades inside or at night (cue Corey Hart), but you're being interviewed about your supposed friend being missing. It's not time to look cool or gangsta and it makes you look creepy and suspicious because noone can see your eyes:banghead:. Just MOO!
It just seemed a little strange GC had his deck torn down & redone....I wondered what evidence could it have had.....we do not know, as we were not there & we do know that GC has lied so ..... maybe Shannan was hurt there first....anything is possible & that community is a bit suspect IMO.
I do believe this case will be solved & I do believe many people who have been threatened will prevail......why would Fluke come forward about the Black Girl....<modsnip>
I think the who horrific happenings @ Oak Beach tainted all the people, the Community as well as put the tourist Summer Hot Spot on the bottom of places to visit. Houses are worth nothing....taxes will go up to compensate .....all because of this little Crazy Gated Community.....I do think the community will be having to respond to the surrounding community....The case needs to be solved....1 cracked egg leads to an Omelet IMO
Mari My Heart, Soul & Passdion is with You especially......You & Daughters cracked this case wide open & showed these Entitled people they are going to explain.......You have achieved many goals ......With your Daughter by your side
Just want to say You ROCK.......Thanx for getting Crazyville LISK site off the Net.......another BIG Dragon Slayed
If someone has info and claims it as fact I would like to know, otherwise to clarify things they should just let it be know it is their opinion not fact. Keeps things clear and makes this case easier. Doing the opposite does more harm then good. This is what we are all after right, to help?
We all have a common goal and that is justice for those women disguarded by the perp and imo the police/community at OB. So no when someone posts non stop I will and have the right to ask is this true and how? For instance and no offense please but I have not read GC had replaced his deck. That is interesting and not saying it is untrue but where is that info coming from?
She was supposedly grabbed by the back of the head...
Sorry, I don't dig for links, I just put the info out there.
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I was also at the vigil the morning that they found Shannan, and WHEN they found Shannan, and WHILE they were extracting her body (rest in peace) Dormer's <modsnip> came out and started with "We believe we found Shanan, who drowned...."
REALLY? Your an on site medical examiner? He called the shots way too soon, they are covering something up, and isn't it sad that the people we are taught to trust and are taught to depend on are possibly covering up some sort of murder mystery??? It's scary and I really wish I didn't start talking about this because it REALLY bothers me.
it bothers me too Lil miss.
They were saying publically that she drowned - long before they told the public they found a body. Only the medical examiner's examination will let her mom and family know what happened.
It must have been freezing out at Oak beach that day - and so intense. a day you will never forget as long as you live, huh?
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I have shared my experience that day with several sluethers here, and I just want to say that, when I went to the vigil, it was sad enough, the reason why I was returning to the beach was really so deeply saddening. I was almost sick to my stomach.... When the people I was attending the vigil with arrived at my house and said "We need to go, I think they found Shannan." I almost fell to the floor. I was happy, oh boy I was happy! But I was soooooo sick. So sad. I didn't want to go. But I went... and I watched the medical examiners truck drive her out of there and I watched the huge machines they used parade out of there one by one behind her.... and my heart broke. I haven't been that weak in sooooo long, and so I could have only imagined poor Mari, who was on her way down, oh, how did she feel. And god she is sooooooo strong. I stayed for balloons, I stayed for prayer, I stayed for my friend to go visit where Melissa was found, and when my friend came back in a hysterical mess of tears, I had to go home. I couldn't take anymore, my moral and spirit had been broken. I really think that day I lost all faith in ANYTHING good, especially the people who made this happen. The killers, the partiers, Shannan, everyone and everything, I just wanted to shake it and scream why???? Why do this things happen????? I hate it!
I'm sorry. I get very passionate about things like this. Unnecessary death.... of a young girl. Sad.:rant: