Dragonfire7783
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Hello I am new here and have spent the last few days reading this thread looking at the details and different theories about what happen to the Lyon sisters.I live in PG county and was 17 at the time they disappeared so I remember this very well,and admit I have thought about it over the years from time to time.This past Sunday night when I went to bed I started thinking about this case again very strongly.Funny thing is I was thinking of an art project I am working on when I suddenly shifted to this case out of the blue.
First some comments about what others have said.Some one posted that the area wasn't safe.Yes I remember that very well.In the area there were just places one didn't really want to go and Wheaton Plaza was in one of them.
Also about TRM in PG county.I don't know if I would take the reports seriously about Marlow Heights or Iverson.This is where I lived and still do and they were not really places where allot of us teens hung out.Marlow Heights is an open air strip shopping center and Iverson a very small mall.At the time not much there to do or for teens to hang out.Landover Mall which is gone now was larger and the place to go.So if the reports mentioned Landover I would take it more into account.It could be people saw some one in a brown suit and briefcase and figured it was the same man.
Some thoughts about Coffey as a suspect.I don't mean to discount him but I do wonder.Based on past cases and profiles of serial rapist/killers they do dispose of bodies in places they will likely be found.A dare to police to catch them and give themselves attention. So the complete disappearance really doesn't fit the MO.
As for TRM there have been good theories of how if involved and the perp he got two girls in the car.Which I do not mean to discount,but do wonder.
As some one has mentioned the MCP during the DC sniper case was totally fixated on a white type truck/van.Never mind they are a dime a dozen so seeing one in the area wouldn't be strange. It is possible that TRM was a nut pedophile fishing but not involved.
Why do I wonder.For one as I mentioned serial rapist/killers like the attention so generally their victims get found.The one exception I can think of is Jeffery Dalmer who ate and kept parts as trophies. Any way based on other cases it seems to me it's when it is some one the victims know then it is when bodies are disposed of so hopefully they won't be found.
Also kidnapping two girls even in a busy parking lot with no struggle with the news this case got surely some one would have come forward or thought."Hay I saw two blond girls getting in with some one.I just figured it was a parent"Then contacted police.
As for the teen who saw them between 2:30PM and 3:30PM on the way home.I am not sure I'd dismiss it.I know why he said he didn't report it right away but was his reason the truth?Did some news report really say the sisters were seen at the mall at 7PM?
I personally think it possible it was a person they knew.All reports mention TRM,but non mention if they were seen talking with another group of young people or teens.This would have been over looked by adults be cause it is common place.The older sister was in 7th grade.JR.High at the time.Which was grades 7 to 9.Did they run into an older boy/boys one she might have a crush on?One who had a drivers license.Be cause of my birthday and repeating a grade I was 16 in 9th grade so could drive. Again adults wouldn't even have noticed any of this.
I wonder about the idea of a some trick to get the girls into a car by a stranger.While it is possible don't get me wrong. However when I was 14 my father was at work and had a severe asthma attack and had to go to the ER.My mother asked a family friend to catch me at the school bus stop to bring me to the hospital. So to me this would be likely so the idea some complete stranger using it at least for me wouldn't work.Even some one I'd just met and talked too. Seems to me the Lyons would do the same ask a family friend or neighbor
Also why I wonder about the other teen aspect.I'm not implying something terrible as a motive though it's possible with older teen boys.But just a joke gone wrong. For example when I was 10 new to the area a girl same age also new and I were talking at the local play ground.An older boy came up said there was this really cool tree swing in the local woods right there.So we followed.After awhile he just ran off leaving us in the woods as a joke.The girl fearful at first fearing we were lost etc,but I have a great memory and sense of direction so remembered how we got there and what direction the playground was in so we fairly quickly got out.Which is why I wonder about the teen who came forward days later and about his reason.
Some random thoughts.I'm sure police questioned family close friends close friends at school their teachers etc.
However students at school besides close friends teachers? At the time teen on teen violence wasn't as it is now.Also neither was sexual assaults from teachers or even church officials like it is known now.So was all this ever looked into once it be came an awareness in our modern world?
I know there are things the police have not made public and they have good reasons for not doing so.However it's been 37 years and to me it's time to allow a fresh look and people can help. I am sure there are things they know and wouldn't have to release all they know
But some things more.That way people here and the public who might know something a piece of this puzzle which right now unaware of could possible see it all in a new light and help solve it.
Another reason I feel more information should be released is this.I don't mean to be critical of the police here.The original detective/detectives have retired so today it is a new detective.I Doubt it is actively being looked into with today's violent crimes gangs drugs and terrorism threat.Just to name a few problems police must deal with today.
Sadly going over the evidence that is public all we can do is go around and around in circles
I don't know why I strongly and suddenly started thinking about this case but I would very deeply love to solve it.
Thanks for the forum and listening to my ramble everyone.
First some comments about what others have said.Some one posted that the area wasn't safe.Yes I remember that very well.In the area there were just places one didn't really want to go and Wheaton Plaza was in one of them.
Also about TRM in PG county.I don't know if I would take the reports seriously about Marlow Heights or Iverson.This is where I lived and still do and they were not really places where allot of us teens hung out.Marlow Heights is an open air strip shopping center and Iverson a very small mall.At the time not much there to do or for teens to hang out.Landover Mall which is gone now was larger and the place to go.So if the reports mentioned Landover I would take it more into account.It could be people saw some one in a brown suit and briefcase and figured it was the same man.
Some thoughts about Coffey as a suspect.I don't mean to discount him but I do wonder.Based on past cases and profiles of serial rapist/killers they do dispose of bodies in places they will likely be found.A dare to police to catch them and give themselves attention. So the complete disappearance really doesn't fit the MO.
As for TRM there have been good theories of how if involved and the perp he got two girls in the car.Which I do not mean to discount,but do wonder.
As some one has mentioned the MCP during the DC sniper case was totally fixated on a white type truck/van.Never mind they are a dime a dozen so seeing one in the area wouldn't be strange. It is possible that TRM was a nut pedophile fishing but not involved.
Why do I wonder.For one as I mentioned serial rapist/killers like the attention so generally their victims get found.The one exception I can think of is Jeffery Dalmer who ate and kept parts as trophies. Any way based on other cases it seems to me it's when it is some one the victims know then it is when bodies are disposed of so hopefully they won't be found.
Also kidnapping two girls even in a busy parking lot with no struggle with the news this case got surely some one would have come forward or thought."Hay I saw two blond girls getting in with some one.I just figured it was a parent"Then contacted police.
As for the teen who saw them between 2:30PM and 3:30PM on the way home.I am not sure I'd dismiss it.I know why he said he didn't report it right away but was his reason the truth?Did some news report really say the sisters were seen at the mall at 7PM?
I personally think it possible it was a person they knew.All reports mention TRM,but non mention if they were seen talking with another group of young people or teens.This would have been over looked by adults be cause it is common place.The older sister was in 7th grade.JR.High at the time.Which was grades 7 to 9.Did they run into an older boy/boys one she might have a crush on?One who had a drivers license.Be cause of my birthday and repeating a grade I was 16 in 9th grade so could drive. Again adults wouldn't even have noticed any of this.
I wonder about the idea of a some trick to get the girls into a car by a stranger.While it is possible don't get me wrong. However when I was 14 my father was at work and had a severe asthma attack and had to go to the ER.My mother asked a family friend to catch me at the school bus stop to bring me to the hospital. So to me this would be likely so the idea some complete stranger using it at least for me wouldn't work.Even some one I'd just met and talked too. Seems to me the Lyons would do the same ask a family friend or neighbor
Also why I wonder about the other teen aspect.I'm not implying something terrible as a motive though it's possible with older teen boys.But just a joke gone wrong. For example when I was 10 new to the area a girl same age also new and I were talking at the local play ground.An older boy came up said there was this really cool tree swing in the local woods right there.So we followed.After awhile he just ran off leaving us in the woods as a joke.The girl fearful at first fearing we were lost etc,but I have a great memory and sense of direction so remembered how we got there and what direction the playground was in so we fairly quickly got out.Which is why I wonder about the teen who came forward days later and about his reason.
Some random thoughts.I'm sure police questioned family close friends close friends at school their teachers etc.
However students at school besides close friends teachers? At the time teen on teen violence wasn't as it is now.Also neither was sexual assaults from teachers or even church officials like it is known now.So was all this ever looked into once it be came an awareness in our modern world?
I know there are things the police have not made public and they have good reasons for not doing so.However it's been 37 years and to me it's time to allow a fresh look and people can help. I am sure there are things they know and wouldn't have to release all they know
But some things more.That way people here and the public who might know something a piece of this puzzle which right now unaware of could possible see it all in a new light and help solve it.
Another reason I feel more information should be released is this.I don't mean to be critical of the police here.The original detective/detectives have retired so today it is a new detective.I Doubt it is actively being looked into with today's violent crimes gangs drugs and terrorism threat.Just to name a few problems police must deal with today.
Sadly going over the evidence that is public all we can do is go around and around in circles
I don't know why I strongly and suddenly started thinking about this case but I would very deeply love to solve it.
Thanks for the forum and listening to my ramble everyone.