Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt2

[Bluenotes]

That is not surprising!

Do you know Chris' birth day by chance?

No, but I might be able to find out.

 

[analytical]

This is very telling to me. I'm not a guy, but I would be on my knees, sobbing, had I just lost my husband and my babies.

Coleman has had eight days for reality to set in.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/articles/2009/05/13/monroe/news//0513cla-2murders0.txt

 

[jnTexas]

http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/articles/2009/05/13/monroe/news//0513cla-2murders0.txt

Oh how sad. I feel for the boys friends and their parents. I can't even imagine what their little friends are going through?

 

[Wrinkles]

Greetings Bluesnotes and welcome to WS!

You wrote:
>>My wife was at the visitation service and said CC did not seem to be upset at all. <<

My guess is that your wife is very perceptive and saw a reality.

W

 

[AfterSunset]

To be fair, this was actually the second time he was at the cemetery. The bodies were taken to Chicago after the first graveside service. My wife was at the visitation service and said CC did not seem to be upset at all.

yes, to be fair, you are correct...and I know that everyone has their own way of grieving, etc. it's just that there were his children...his wife. No matter how he felt/feels about his wife....there were his sons! I just can't imagine not being somewhat more demonstrative (sp?) even if only to reach out and touch each casket...I mean, after all, is this not the man who rolled and wailed on the ground on May 5th?

I'm just saying......

 

[southernillinoisman]

Hello to you all and so good to have been able to follow all of your good thoughts and insight the past few days while I've been lurking on this board. I've hardly been able to get anything done since this all happened and I don't know the Colemans from Adam.

I really don't have anything to add to the discussion...just want you all to know that my heart is very deeply grieved by the situation and I'm pulled to it for a lot of reasons, I suppose. The geographic closeness and knowing that my friends were close to this Chris fellow but won't talk to me about him except that he was "incapable of doing this" sort of thing.

Just kills my heart. I need to quit reading but can't. I can't keep away from this board and the news stories because I just can't imagine the depths of evil it would take to do something of this magnitude. I know that's already been said but...it's just how I feel. My heart is deeply hurt over it all.

 

[Bluenotes]

What else can you tell us about the wake and funeral? (I did not attend it because I don't know them personally)

My wife said he was calmly telling everyone that came through the line "thanks for coming, thanks for driving all the way out here". She said she had an creepy feeling coming out of there and so did her friends who attended. Other than that, she just said the police were running everyone's plates and that cops were all over the place. There were also men in suits with what she described as earpieces. She didn't know if they were police or JMM security. She didn't know what JM looks like, so I can't say if she was there or not. I was unable to go that night. I did go to the candlelight vigil. CC was not there. Police were checking plates there too.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Coleman has had eight days for reality to set in.

I know very few people who would say that after 8 days, the reality of losing their entire family had set in, and they were able to move on (like it appears he is).

After 8 days of losing my husband and children, I can tell you that reality wouldn't have even start to set in. IMO, reality would set in after things quiet down, the murderer is caught, and life begins to return to normal. That's when reality sets in, IMO.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Police said Christopher Coleman left home at 2854 Robert Avenue about 5:45 a.m. May 5 to work out at a gym in St. Louis County, and called police shortly before 7 a.m. because he could not reach his family by phone. Officers found the bodies. Neighbors said police told them the victims were strangled.

Connor said detectives have focused a search along a stretch of Interstate 255 near the Jefferson Barracks Bridge, not mentioning that it would be Coleman's route to the gym.

"We believe there was evidence discarded along this route," he explained, but did not say what

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...D2C9FBCC6917F4E3862575B6001068B5?OpenDocument

 

[Bluenotes]

Oh how sad. I feel for the boys friends and their parents. I can't even imagine what their little friends are going through?

I know that a lot of the kids they went to school with were scared to death, and some had been sleeping with their parents at night because they were afraid someone was going to break into their house. Heck, I know people in MO who's kids were terrified from all the news reports.

I also heard the 4th graders (Garett's class) refused to drink milk at school as a tribute to Garett. Garett didn't like milk. That just tears me up typing that..

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

I have been waiting and waiting to post here. I live on the Missouri side, but have close connections to Columbia. I have even met CC a few times. I think it has already been answered, but the Gold's Gym in South County would be about a 10 minute drive from the Coleman house. I used to be a member of the gym and you need to scan an id key card or use your thumb print on the scanner. I can't recall if the gym had showers or not, I believe they did.

I have heard from a reliable source in the boy's school that Gavin told his teacher a few weeks ago that they would be in Disney World this week and next. He later was upset (just a few days prior to the murders) when he told her that mom had decided to not have him miss that much school. Maybe a ploy of CC to set up what appears to be a normal, happy family and play into his alibi?

I can also confirm from the same source that the school was informed by SC of threats against the family.

CC traveled extensively with JMM even going to Europe and Africa with her last year.

At first I did not want to believe CC could have done this, but now I have little doubt.

Thanks for your insight, Bluenotes! Welcome to Websleuths!

 

[fmrchesterguy]

I apologize if this has already been said.

If people are wondering about the 'bags' being carried here:

http://www.fox2now.com/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3757926

I'd say they ARE the hay bales seen here:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lncmsz.jpg

wrapped well in plastic so nothing falls out. The bales in the pic are very close to being under a window which is covered in crime scene tape. They probably are looking to match fibers found near the bodies, to fibers found in/on the hay bales to rule in/out the likelyhood of the perp entering the house via said window.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

The affidavit is interesting
http://www.ksdk.com/news/pdfs/colemanaffidavit.pdf

 

[chestergal]

Thanks for posting... I live in Chester but was not raised here.
The Grace Church in Chester is connected to JMM so most of the people who attend the church or know the family are saying the same thing here (won't talk to me about him except that he was "incapable of doing this" sort of thing.) and I am sure they are refusing t o talk to The MCS.

Hello to you all and so good to have been able to follow all of your good thoughts and insight the past few days while I've been lurking on this board. I've hardly been able to get anything done since this all happened and I don't know the Colemans from Adam.

Here's where I'm at: The Senior Pastors of Joyce Meyer's church in St. Louis were my Youth Pastors when I was a teenager. Beyond that, I've an additional connection through a good friend who works at JMM and have a passive relationship with a friend who used to be JM's spokeman (until he took a different job a couple of years ago in politics.) I've been trying to get them to talk to me about the situation but nothing. They won't talk about. Just that they're sad and that God should "bring the evil person who did this to justice." It's a wierd attitude but probably indicitive of what things are like inside JMM. (Mind you, I don't really have a thing in the world against JM...just seems like a groupthink sortof a thing.)

I'm a Pastor in southern Illinois...son of a Pastor...brother of a Pastor. Beyond that...I know I'm trying too hard to get all my reasons for why this is of interest to me but...my coworker's sister lives in the neighborhood down the street from the Colemans. That's how I initially learned about the story.

I really don't have anything to add to the discussion...just want you all to know that my heart is very deeply grieved by the situation and I'm pulled to it for a lot of reasons, I suppose. The geographic closeness and knowing that my friends were close to this Chris fellow but won't talk to me about him except that he was "incapable of doing this" sort of thing.

Just kills my heart. I need to quit reading but can't. I can't keep away from this board and the news stories because I just can't imagine the depths of evil it would take to do something of this magnitude. I know that's already been said but...it's just how I feel. My heart is deeply hurt over it all.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Major Conner the guy from the MSC who was talking at press conf.

blush, blush, blush... he is quite handsome... blush, blush, blush....

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Hello to you all and so good to have been able to follow all of your good thoughts and insight the past few days while I've been lurking on this board. I've hardly been able to get anything done since this all happened and I don't know the Colemans from Adam.

Here's where I'm at: The Senior Pastors of Joyce Meyer's church in St. Louis were my Youth Pastors when I was a teenager. Beyond that, I've an additional connection through a good friend who works at JMM and have a passive relationship with a friend who used to be JM's spokeman (until he took a different job a couple of years ago in politics.) I've been trying to get them to talk to me about the situation but nothing. They won't talk about. Just that they're sad and that God should "bring the evil person who did this to justice." It's a wierd attitude but probably indicitive of what things are like inside JMM. (Mind you, I don't really have a thing in the world against JM...just seems like a groupthink sortof a thing.)

I'm a Pastor in southern Illinois...son of a Pastor...brother of a Pastor. Beyond that...I know I'm trying too hard to get all my reasons for why this is of interest to me but...my coworker's sister lives in the neighborhood down the street from the Colemans. That's how I initially learned about the story.

I really don't have anything to add to the discussion...just want you all to know that my heart is very deeply grieved by the situation and I'm pulled to it for a lot of reasons, I suppose. The geographic closeness and knowing that my friends were close to this Chris fellow but won't talk to me about him except that he was "incapable of doing this" sort of thing.

Just kills my heart. I need to quit reading but can't. I can't keep away from this board and the news stories because I just can't imagine the depths of evil it would take to do something of this magnitude. I know that's already been said but...it's just how I feel. My heart is deeply hurt over it all.

SouthernIllinoisMan

Welcome to WS and thanks for sharing that. I think a lot of us do understand how you feel. My personal fascination with crime comes from trying to understand how evil happens, how when faced with a choice, some humans choose to do horrible things to other humans.

At any, again welcome, and I will add you to my healing/prayer candle.

 

[mysterygirl]

Oh Bluenotes, the milk thing made me just lose it. This is so stupid and senseless.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

I apologize if this has already been said.

If people are wondering about the 'bags' being carried here:

http://www.fox2now.com/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3757926

I'd say they ARE the hay bales seen here:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lncmsz.jpg

wrapped well in plastic so nothing falls out. The bales in the pic are very close to being under a window which is covered in crime scene tape. They probably are looking to match fibers found near the bodies, to fibers found in/on the hay bales to rule in/out the likelyhood of the perp entering the house via said window.

Thanks, fmrchesterguy and welcome to WS!

 

[Fairy1]

Coleman has had eight days for reality to set in.

8 days? Not sure that would dull the pain of seeing your children in caskets and buried in the ground forever. I've grieved for lost pets longer than that.

IMO - his reality is that he murdered his family and the clock is ticking toward his being arrested, convicted and imprisoned for it. I suppose that is very sobering.