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Zuri said:
Mine too Bravo. Making the best of it is exhausting, and I wish I could just sleep from now until 12/26. Things were so much easier when my kids were little.
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Hi, Honestly I honor the day as Christs birthday. I am grateful, but otherwise I cant wait til its all over. :loveyou:
 
neesaki said:
Thanks Mrs. G. This is one wordy journalist. What I take away from her article is that she obviously opposes our justice system and our freedom of speech, and that's she's a stout defendant advocate and sympathizer, regardless of the crime committed. Of course she's entitled to her opinion, but I think she may be outvoted. :rolleyes:

So some of the less deadly wounds that Travis suffered were technically "superficial". Why, because she hit bone? Well, the wounds that killed him were in no way superficial, such as the near decapitating slash to his throat. So what is her point, that the "superficial" wounds were a mere accident and result of anatomy? And a failure on CMJA's part in her attempts to take Travis' life. Ok. :scared:

And to the crux of the issue, what does any of this author's whining pity and complaining about the trial, have to do with the vicious and violent nature of this crime. She just goes on, and on, and on, and on. :scared: I just couldn't continue reading, she lost me somewhere in her vitriolic rampage. It would have been equivalent to subjecting myself to a whining, spoiled brat having a temper tantrum.

This journalist is always going to side with the defendant, regardless of how heinous the crime, imo. Her issue seems to be that she believes that televising and making the trial public compromises and makes it more difficult for the defendant to get away with murder. Imo, she doesn't understand the principle of accountability, i.e., justice. She doesn't understand that it has nothing to do with being placating, indulgent, enabling, or empowering the murderer. It has to do with empowering the victim and their family. And, about protecting our society from people like Jodi Arias. That's justice. :moo:
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I'm all for hearing alternative views on this case though .. anything is preferable to the one eyed view we were force fed by most of the MSM.
 
Bravo said:
Yes they were sigh...... It is exhausting since I have to hold 2 Xmas dinners now. We made it clear this will be the only holiday that we will accommodate until the 2 adult Children resolve. They never have ever had an argument to date in their lives. Who da thunk now. We always thought we had it easy peasy. Smart choices. Good Professional careers. Bang. Hit the wall. Hubby and I were devastated. It is what it is. Like I said the beat goes on.....
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Bravo, my husbands family was like that. We had to practically schedule visits to his mom so we wouldnt be there when the fighters were. It was no easy task. We finally just stopped going anywhere on Christmas Day. Not the same as yours but it still hurt. I stayed in the middle .Life is not long enough to be so hurtful. :loveyou:
 
I want to hear some wonderful stories. Plz share!
 
Mrs G Norris said:
I'm all for hearing alternative views on this case though .. anything is preferable to the one eyed view we were force fed by most of the MSM.
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Good point, it is interesting to hear other view points outside of MSM. How have you been by the way? :seeya:
 
Nore said:
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Bravo, my husbands family was like that. We had to practically schedule visits to his mom so we wouldnt be there when the fighters were. It was no easy task. We finally just stopped going anywhere on Christmas Day. Not the same as yours but it still hurt. I stayed in the middle .Life is not long enough to be so hurtful. :loveyou:
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It does hurt. Thank You for acknowledging. As much as I was past it. Now that Xmas is coming and I grew up in a Family that never had conflict and my 2 Children now are it's hard. We don't get it. They were never raised to have conflict. They have been great kids. Why now? I guess it's there gig. Sigh....
 
For some reason I can't quote posts for now...Zuri apparently they are conducting further investigations since he had been known worldwide.....good luck to him if he's found to have committed this crime in one of the less favourable states in the usa.

I was quite surprised by the 29 years, I said to my friend last week that nothing less than 25 years would be acceptable but knowing our justice system I expect a lot less.

I can't even say what I think of those two 'mothers' I thought it was horrific before reading that judgement but I was utterly sickened by reading some of what they had done. How just how do you do that to your own kid?

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LambChop said:
I don't think JA was correct by a long shot. Superficial means close to the surface such as being consistent with scrapes or scratches. The ME's report list them under "sharp forced injuries" and stab wounds. Some were not deep because she hit his rib and back bones. "Wounds displayed blunt and sharply incised ends." All wounds (on his back) impacted ribs and the lateral aspects of his vertebral bone. Some wounds were not deep as his chest's wounds because she hit bone. Not exactly what I would describe as "superficial". Not even his defensive wounds were superficial. Where does she come up with this stuff? Most people can't get past the fact that she cut his throat from ear to ear. jmo
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I used to work as a Certified Coding Specialist for a Level 1 trauma center in Houston. (Lots of stabbings and gunshot wounds). I had to code from the Emergency Room MD's notes and sometimes from autopsy reports. So, that is my background. According to the autopsy report, TA's superior vena cava and jugular and carotid artery were cut. IMO, the wounds on his back were superficial compared to those injuries.
 
Sulamith said:
I used to work as a Certified Coding Specialist for a Level 1 trauma center in Houston. (Lots of stabbings and gunshot wounds). I had to code from the Emergency Room MD's notes and sometimes from autopsy reports. So, that is my background. According to the autopsy report, TA's superior vena cava and jugular and carotid artery were cut. IMO, the wounds on his back were superficial compared to those injuries.
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Well, the knife hit bone thus preventing, deep, penetration into vital organs and arteries. In that context, it is considered superficial. I guess to overcome the obstacle of Travis' bones, she would have needed an ax or hatchet, if even that. :facepalm: Just think about it, how manic, how crazed, how totally in a rage she was in order to inflict the number of wounds that she did. And then to stop, and go through the act of almost beheading him. God help us if that monster is ever released from prison.

I also think it's a shame that the prosecution and the family are insisting on the death penalty. I believe it's because of that that she is now being declared a martyr worth saving. :moo:
 
I think this person was trying to analize the trial, how it was conducted etc.. Really I have no interest in his/her definition. I'm not trying to see what anyone did wrong. All I know is jodi brutally murdered a man for a senseless reason. how he must have suffered! She had no feelings for the pain she was causing.No normal human being could do that. Put myself in JM.'s place, I probably would have wound up in jail for busting her in the chops for all her lies. She is a parasite! I do know one thing I dont want to see her on the streets again. So the stab wounds were superfical so what! What does it take to realize what she was doing to him and pics'. on top of it? No wonder they were angry towards her! I could be locked in a room til the end and I would still find her guilty as he((. No man that acted like Travis deserved what she did. I think this person needs to take a good long look at this case and what he/she wrote. Given the chance, I feel jodi would do it again. My rant....:banghead: IMO. and it is just that!!:loveyou:
 
neesaki said:
Well, the knife hit bone thus preventing, deep, penetration into vital organs and arteries. In that context, it is considered superficial. I guess to overcome the obstacle of Travis' bones, she would have needed an ax or hatchet, if even that. :facepalm: Just think about it, how manic, how crazed, how totally in a rage she was in order to inflict the number of wounds that she did. And then to stop, and go through the act of almost beheading him. God help us if that monster is ever released from prison.

I also think it's a shame that the prosecution and the family are insisting on the death penalty. I believe it's because of that that she is now being declared a martyr worth saving. :moo:
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Who is saying that JA is a martyr worth saving? IMO, she is yesterday's news. I know that Tanisha is a member of the LDS church and they believe in blood atonement, (the biblical eye for an eye) so of course, she would like to see JA put to death.

I have no problem with the death penalty in theory, but I have to say, Texas has made some lethal mistakes in the area of the death penalty.
 
Sulamith, I for one would be just as happy to see LWOP..I fear for her ever being on the streets again.:seeya:
 
Hey everyone. LOTS to update, if anyone is interested. lol

I saw a Pulmonologist a few weeks ago and he determined (after all kinds of weird breathing tests) that i have asthma and prescribed an inhaled steroid. I'm still unemployed and without insurance so that sucker is expensive! So far, so good though. Between that and the "rescue inhaler" I carry I'm doing well.

I think I'm finally getting my personal life under control. In case you haven't noticed from my erratic and ridiculous posts, I have a drinking problem. I'm finally able to admit that! It took a lot for me to actually type that sentence, so be gentle with me. lol After a lot of soul-searching I decided to move back home with my parents and things are going great. I'm even going to church! Without going into a lot of detail (that's for the Jury Room, if i ever decide to post there), I'm finally feeling some peace.

I love you guys and miss y'all so much! I hope everyone is doing well.
 
Sulamith said:
Who is saying that JA is a martyr worth saving? IMO, she is yesterday's news. I know that Tanisha is a member of the LDS church and they believe in blood atonement, (the biblical eye for an eye) so of course, she would like to see JA put to death.

I have no problem with the death penalty in theory, but I have to say, Texas has made some lethal mistakes in the area of the death penalty.
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I'm certainly not saying she's worth saving, lol. The journalist who wrote the article, and those like her, who paint her as some sort of victim, partially because the state is going for the death penalty. If that weren't on the table, I don't think we'd be hearing diddly squat about poor, poor Jodi, or big bad Juan Martinez.

In general I'm not an advocate of the death penalty, due to those lethal or near lethal mistakes that you mentioned. There's no room for mistakes when someone's life is at stake. :moo:
 
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