SIDEBAR #24- Arias/Alexander forum

[Bernina]

When I first heard of Elliot Rodger, I thought of Seung-Hui Cho too. I saw both Rodger and Cho's video and they are quite similar. However, Cho sounds angrier than Rodger. This despite the fact that Rodger is consumed by rage like Cho. He also reminds me of Andrew Cunanan, Adam Lanza, Lori Drew, and Jodi Arias. They are highly narcissistic and envious in nature mixed with extreme resentment. Cho, Lanza, Cunanan, Drew, and Arias are constant complainers who are always unhappy and like it when people are unhappy. When things go wrong, they explode.

HMS, great to see you here! You're one of the few over on the ER thread that I share the same observations with. :seeya:

 

[YESorNO]

When I first heard of Elliot Rodger, I thought of Seung-Hui Cho too. I saw both Rodger and Cho's video and they are quite similar. However, Cho sounds angrier than Rodger. This despite the fact that Rodger is consumed by rage like Cho. He also reminds me of Andrew Cunanan, Adam Lanza, Lori Drew, and Jodi Arias. They are highly narcissistic and envious in nature mixed with extreme resentment. Cho, Lanza, Cunanan, Drew, and Arias are constant complainers who are always unhappy and like it when people are unhappy. When things go wrong, they explode.

BBM I think Elliot, in his videos, was "acting"- like the "gentleman" he thought he was and wanted his academy award- he had a very flat affect and his little laughs were staged and laughable, for sure, IMO. Just the way he moved his head was very staged, IMO. And in his Manifesto, he was looking for his Noble Prize for Literature.

 

[YESorNO]

Good afternoon :seeya:

My son has his first year Graduate School field interview tomorrow at an addiction center in town.

Hope he does well because it's so close to home. :crossfingers:

It's a field he is not familiar with. Even tho' he intends to go into the hospice/geriatric area of social work, the college requires him to have his first year field assignment in a different field than he is interested in.

 

[Bernina]

What really bugs me is the general public are going to relate Asperger's and Xanax as "dangerous".
An acquaintance who's son has Aspies, went through he!! when Sandy Hook happened. Parents in her school district actually demanded that the principal kick her son out of school. She received threatening emails, her younger daughter was harassed by school mates, she had to get LE involved. She had friends turn on her. She lives back east. Can't imagine how she's holding up with this current situation.......
Xanax.....:facepalm:.....it's bad enough that it's widely available on the "streets", and abused by people who don't need it and/or haven't been prescribed it, but dangit if it wasn't what literally saved my life. I've been on it 23 years, have never abused it, and have actually tapered down over the years. I was unable to function. Dr.s have tried other anti-anxiety meds, usually part of a antidepressant, but they didn't work for me. Am I going to get the stink eye because people know I'm on it?

Urgh. :banghead:

 

[Bernina]

Good afternoon :seeya:

My son has his first year Graduate School field interview tomorrow at an addiction center in town.

Hope he does well because it's so close to home. :crossfingers:

It's a field he is not familiar with. Even tho' he intends to go into the hospice/geriatric area of social work, the college requires him to have his first year field assignment in a different field than he is interested in.

Hope he does well!:thumb:

 

[Nymeria]

What really bugs me is the general public are going to relate Asperger's and Xanax as "dangerous".
An acquaintance who's son has Aspies, went through he!! when Sandy Hook happened. Parents in her school district actually demanded that the principal kick her son out of school. She received threatening emails, her younger daughter was harassed by school mates, she had to get LE involved. She had friends turn on her. She lives back east. Can't imagine how she's holding up with this current situation.......
Xanax.....:facepalm:.....it's bad enough that it's widely available on the "streets", and abused by people who don't need it and/or haven't been prescribed it, but dangit if it wasn't what literally saved my life. I've been on it 23 years, have never abused it, and have actually tapered down over the years. I was unable to function. Dr.s have tried other anti-anxiety meds, usually part of a antidepressant, but they didn't work for me. Am I going to get the stink eye because people know I'm on it?

Urgh. :banghead:

No stink eye from me Bernina.
This is new to me, but right before the holidays in 2013 I started having weird palpitations. I dealt with it but one day we went to the mall and I literally though I was having a heart attack. I even had to be wheeled out by security. A walk in clinic had given me Xanax, and when I went to regular doc and after checking the physical things and ruling them out he prescribed it for me. It HELPS.
The odd thing to me is I can not figure out the WHY of the attacks.
It is not crowds, or stimulation, or even stress (That I can pinpoint).
I can be laying around watching TV and they happen.
Anyway, no knocks from me for taking whatever you feel helps you in your life.
The only issue I have with prescription meds is schools trying to push them on kids. My son could not sit still in class for a few years, and they were trying to push me to put him on Ritalin. I would not even entertain it.
Turns out my kid is smart as hell and was just BORED, it passed and he is/was a great student once out of that school system.
No objections to children or adults who actually need it, but it really irked me how easily they wanted to dope my son up to make their lives easier.

 

[Nymeria]

Good afternoon :seeya:

My son has his first year Graduate School field interview tomorrow at an addiction center in town.

Hope he does well because it's so close to home. :crossfingers:

It's a field he is not familiar with. Even tho' he intends to go into the hospice/geriatric area of social work, the college requires him to have his first year field assignment in a different field than he is interested in.

Good Luck to YoN's son!! :loveyou:

 

[YESorNO]

What really bugs me is the general public are going to relate Asperger's and Xanax as "dangerous".
An acquaintance who's son has Aspies, went through he!! when Sandy Hook happened. Parents in her school district actually demanded that the principal kick her son out of school. She received threatening emails, her younger daughter was harassed by school mates, she had to get LE involved. She had friends turn on her. She lives back east. Can't imagine how she's holding up with this current situation.......
Xanax.....:facepalm:.....it's bad enough that it's widely available on the "streets", and abused by people who don't need it and/or haven't been prescribed it, but dangit if it wasn't what literally saved my life. I've been on it 23 years, have never abused it, and have actually tapered down over the years. I was unable to function. Dr.s have tried other anti-anxiety meds, usually part of a antidepressant, but they didn't work for me. Am I going to get the stink eye because people know I'm on it?

Urgh. :banghead:

BBM No stink-eye from me.

Xanax can be very addicting for some people, but not for others. I know because I have also taken Xanax when I was going thru menopause (I was a witch and I knew it- would cry if a fork fell, and had, for a couple of days before my period, anxiety up the patooty). My Md prescribed Xanax and it saved my sanity (and my families :blushing. I only took it for the couple of days before my scheduled period when I felt the agitation coming on and halved the pill because a whole pill would put me to sleep :floorlaugh:..(so the pills lasted a long time and my MD would laugh at me because he knew how scared I was about getting addicted to pills- too many memories of my brother's addictions. He was use to people wanting pills all the time). I'm deathly afraid of addiction to anything ( it's enough that I smoke).

A friend of mine has taken Xanax for at least 20 years, but she needs more all the time (and she takes other anxiety meds, too). Anytime she feels anxious, she pops another Xanax- even if she had taken it a couple of hours before. Its' like candy for her. I don't know how she can stand up after all the pills she takes. I would be on the floor. :floorlaugh: She is more of an anxious person than I am and she also feels "guilty" about every little fart in her life (drives me absolutely crazy :scared::scared. As soon as menopause was over for me, I didn't need Xanax anymore and stopped taking it.

Xanax is a wonderful drug- it made me feel so "normal- so "even", if you know what I mean.

Nothing wrong with taking it if you need it, IMO.

 

[G&AMom]

Good afternoon :seeya:

My son has his first year Graduate School field interview tomorrow at an addiction center in town.

Hope he does well because it's so close to home. :crossfingers:

It's a field he is not familiar with. Even tho' he intends to go into the hospice/geriatric area of social work, the college requires him to have his first year field assignment in a different field than he is interested in.

That's pretty exciting! Good luck to him!

Why does it have to be in a field other than the one he's interested in? It sounds like a good idea, I'm just curious why it's required.

 

[YESorNO]

That's pretty exciting! Good luck to him!

Why does it have to be in a field other than the one he's interested in? It sounds like a good idea, I'm just curious why it's required.

The college wants him to experience other areas of social work so he will have well-rounded experiences in the field. Good- I guess.

Thanks for the well-wishes from everyone. :seeya:

 

[YESorNO]

No stink eye from me Bernina.
This is new to me, but right before the holidays in 2013 I started having weird palpitations. I dealt with it but one day we went to the mall and I literally though I was having a heart attack. I even had to be wheeled out by security. A walk in clinic had given me Xanax, and when I went to regular doc and after checking the physical things and ruling them out he prescribed it for me. It HELPS.
The odd thing to me is I can not figure out the WHY of the attacks.
It is not crowds, or stimulation, or even stress (That I can pinpoint).
I can be laying around watching TV and they happen.
Anyway, no knocks from me for taking whatever you feel helps you in your life.
The only issue I have with prescription meds is schools trying to push them on kids. My son could not sit still in class for a few years, and they were trying to push me to put him on Ritalin. I would not even entertain it.
Turns out my kid is smart as hell and was just BORED, it passed and he is/was a great student once out of that school system.
No objections to children or adults who actually need it, but it really irked me how easily they wanted to dope my son up to make their lives easier.

I developed those palpitations, also,-while and after I was going thru menopause. They would happen mostly when I was lying down, but also happened at other times. My MD didn't think it was something I should worry about, as the sonogram I had didn't show any abnormalities of my heart. A few years ago, I had the same weird, constant palpitations for a couple of days that you did and finally went to the ER. After my 3 day stay at the hospital, the MD said I had a "heart episode" and sent me to a heart MD. He had me wear one of those heart monitors for a couple of days and then did a stress test ( my heart, right after the test, felt like it was bubbling blood). My monitor also showed the palpitations and he asked me if I felt faint when I had the palps- I didn't- just the very uncomfortable feeling that my heart was racing. He just told me to take a low dose aspirin daily after reviewing all the tests done at the hospital and the tests he did. He said I have "arrhythmia"- irregular heartbeat.

The palps still happened and I researched "arrhythmia" and found that potassium and magnesium supplements can help. I started taking, in addition to the aspirin, magnesium-potassium chelates which stopped all the palpitations. I also added potassium gluconate for my leg cramps last year. Been taking them for about 3 years now and it's like a miracle for me. That's all the pills I take now- no palps or leg cramps.

And I've had the opposite experience with school for my son. They have helped my son deal with his ADD and concentration in school by bringing attention to his inattentiveness at school- starting in the fourth grade (which I already had suspected since he was born). After much testing that the school did, we had him see a neurologist and a psychologist and he was diagnosed with ADD. He was started on Ritalin 3x a day and he was like a different boy- he could concentrate on his school work and other things more easily.

I was very grateful to the school and their councilors/teachers. His meds were changed to Concerta when he attended high school- 1x a day- because he was tired of going to the school nurse- which brought attention to his ADD. He didn't like the new med and the MD changed the med to Strattera- 1x a day - and he's been on Strattera ever since, although he has lowered the dose this year because my son wanted it lowered (said the higher dose made him too focused)- just hope the lowered dose doesn't hinder his concentration this Fall when he starts Graduate School, but he will have to make that determination.

Hey- whatever helps. :moo:

 

[zoey]

What really bugs me is the general public are going to relate Asperger's and Xanax as "dangerous".
An acquaintance who's son has Aspies, went through he!! when Sandy Hook happened. Parents in her school district actually demanded that the principal kick her son out of school. She received threatening emails, her younger daughter was harassed by school mates, she had to get LE involved. She had friends turn on her. She lives back east. Can't imagine how she's holding up with this current situation.......
Xanax.....:facepalm:.....it's bad enough that it's widely available on the "streets", and abused by people who don't need it and/or haven't been prescribed it, but dangit if it wasn't what literally saved my life. I've been on it 23 years, have never abused it, and have actually tapered down over the years. I was unable to function. Dr.s have tried other anti-anxiety meds, usually part of a antidepressant, but they didn't work for me. Am I going to get the stink eye because people know I'm on it?

Urgh. :banghead:

Not from me :seeya: sometimes we need medications~~what ever works

 

[zoey]

The college wants him to experience other areas of social work so he will have well-rounded experiences in the field. Good- I guess.

Thanks for the well-wishes from everyone. :seeya:

I so wanted to be a social worker ~~ my dad told me is was stupid and forget it. H also added pay bad ~~ I regret I didn't pursue it. Good luck to your son :seeya:

 

[Nymeria]

I developed those palpitations, also,-while and after I was going thru menopause. They would happen mostly when I was lying down, but also happened at other times. My MD didn't think it was something I should worry about, as the sonogram I had didn't show any abnormalities of my heart. A few years ago, I had the same weird, constant palpitations for a couple of days that you did and finally went to the ER. After my 3 day stay at the hospital, the MD said I had a "heart episode" and sent me to a heart MD. He had me wear one of those heart monitors for a couple of days and then did a stress test ( my heart, right after the test, felt like it was bubbling blood). My monitor also showed the palpitations and he asked me if I felt faint when I had the palps- I didn't- just the very uncomfortable feeling that my heart was racing. He just told me to take a low dose aspirin daily after reviewing all the tests done at the hospital and the tests he did. He said I have "arrhythmia"- irregular heartbeat.

The palps still happened and I researched "arrhythmia" and found that potassium and magnesium supplements can help. I started taking, in addition to the aspirin, magnesium-potassium chelates which stopped all the palpitations. I also added potassium gluconate for my leg cramps last year. Been taking them for about 3 years now and it's like a miracle for me. That's all the pills I take now- no palps or leg cramps.

And I've had the opposite experience with school for my son. They have helped my son deal with his ADD and concentration in school by bringing attention to his inattentiveness at school- starting in the fourth grade (which I already had suspected since he was born). After much testing that the school did, we had him see a neurologist and a psychologist and he was diagnosed with ADD. He was started on Ritalin 3x a day and he was like a different boy- he could concentrate on his school work and other things more easily.

I was very grateful to the school and their councilors/teachers. His meds were changed to Concerta when he attended high school- 1x a day- because he was tired of going to the school nurse- which brought attention to his ADD. He didn't like the new med and the MD changed the med to Strattera- 1x a day - and he's been on Strattera ever since, although he has lowered the dose this year because my son wanted it lowered (said the higher dose made him too focused)- just hope the lowered dose doesn't hinder his concentration this Fall when he starts Graduate School, but he will have to make that determination.

Hey- whatever helps. :moo:

Thanks YoN, maybe I will look into the Potassium/Magnesium thing.
Gods know I do not eat as well as I should, and from what I was reading on your Soylent post yesterday, it takes a lot to get your daily potassium!

 

[Nore]

Thanks YoN, maybe I will look into the Potassium/Magnesium thing.
Gods know I do not eat as well as I should, and from what I was reading on your Soylent post yesterday, it takes a lot to get your daily potassium!

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Hi, watch potassium level close!:seeya:

 

[Nymeria]

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Hi, watch potassium level close!:seeya:

Thanks Nore.
Do you have a good recommendation for getting enough daily?
(I take a daily vitamin, 1-Aday for women, just not sure if that is enough).

 

[Nore]

Thanks Nore.
Do you have a good recommendation for getting enough daily?
(I take a daily vitamin, 1-Aday for women, just not sure if that is enough).

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Hi Nymeria, I dont take a supplement. I try to get it with food, so far so good. I eat green vegetables, peas, asparagus, spinach, also potatoes any form, bananas. Seem if I get them about 3 times a week I'm ok..When I was so sick my potassium level dropped so low from sepsis I had a mild heart attack! Now I have a water pill but it especially doesnt reduce potassium level. I never knew that contolled so much of our bodies! It can go too high also!! :seeya:

 

[Nymeria]

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Hi Nymeria, I dont take a supplement. I try to get it with food, so far so good. I eat green vegetables, peas, asparagus, spinach, also potatoes any form, bananas. Seem if I get them about 3 times a week I'm ok..When I was so sick my potassium level dropped so low from sepsis I had a mild heart attack! Now I have a water pill but it especially doesnt reduce potassium level. I never knew that contolled so much of our bodies! It can go too high also!! :seeya:

Yikes, Ok, I will do some research. Not sure if I actually NEED to bump it up so I will look into just trying to get a daily amount. I do eat a decent amount of green veg. so I may be alright.
Sorry about the heart attack, I hope you recovered well from it.

:tyou:

 

[YESorNO]

Thanks YoN, maybe I will look into the Potassium/Magnesium thing.
Gods know I do not eat as well as I should, and from what I was reading on your Soylent post yesterday, it takes a lot to get your daily potassium!

Here's a good article on potassium/magnesium and heart palpitations:

http://botanical.com/site/by_you/potassium_magnesium_essential.html

(please note:
"To be clear, if you have heart arrhythmia you should be in the care and under supervision of your doctor. Mineral supplements should only be taken with the advice of your doctor who will carefully monitor your blood levels. If you have problems with your kidneys you should not take magnesium supplements without first consulting your doctor. For those who suffer with diabetes or kidney disease or those who are taking certain medicines (like potassium-sparing diuretics, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, ACE inhibitors and heart medications such as heparin) should not take potassium supplements.")

 

[YESorNO]

Yikes, Ok, I will do some research. Not sure if I actually NEED to bump it up so I will look into just trying to get a daily amount. I do eat a decent amount of green veg. so I may be alright.
Sorry about the heart attack, I hope you recovered well from it.

:tyou:

Here's more articles on arrhythmia and magnesium/potassium: (just FYI- as I'm not a professional anything and have given you my experiences only):

http://a-fib.com/treatments-for-atrial-fibrillation/mineral-deficiencies/

http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=33&db=8&C0=16

But do your own research and see if this is to your benefit please.