SIDEBAR #27- Arias/Alexander forum

[geevee]

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 19h
Maria De La Rosa has nothing to do with this twitter account, people.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 19h
Just because I am friends with Jodi and can type, doesn't make me an attractive Mexican woman.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 18h
The start of the penalty phase retrial delayed until Sept. 29th

"JODI ARIAS IS NOT TWEETING. Check here for the latest on Jodi and her status. These tweets do not reflect her opinions (unless she's directly quoted)."

BBM

I believe the allegation is that Maria was the typist on the other JA twitter account, not this new 'updates' one.

 

[Hez]

Casey Anthony had a few Pi's trying to fool everyone with their BS


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More than that. They tampered (allegedly ) with witnesses (and I'm sure with every fibre of my being they tampered with the jury too, IMO).
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/pi-accused-of-witness-tampering-in-casey-case/nFDX7/

http://www.wesh.com/news/casey-anth...tness-Admits-She-Altered-Doc/13139326#!bHIhXF

 

[LinTX]

BBM

Not really, no. I thought it was that way everywhere.

Perjury is still not OK, of course, because perjury is a crime, not a rule of evidence. I know you know that...just making sure no one misunderstands.

No, I wasn't talking about perjury, just the statement "being governed by the same laws as the guilt phase". That and sev'l questioning how "abuse" or her version of actions at the crime scene have anything to do with mitigation, are what I was thinking of. Relaxed rules of evidence, almost anything being relevant as long as it relates to " any aspect of the defendant's character, propensities or record and any of the circumstances of the offense" along with a lower standard of proof, IMO, all combine to give her a lot of leeway in what she can do in this phase. I know she bears the burden of proof, but that fact shouldn't mean that she gets to introduce almost anything that she thinks might stick to the wall either. Considering what a nightmare defense made of the earlier trial with it's restrictions in place, I'm beginning to think maybe it might be better for my health not to be able to see this one live.

 

[gcharlie]

Did JSS really rule that the PI must have access to the crime scene?

For what purpose? If he is proving abuse what could possibly be at that scene now that was not found then? And if he is trying to disprove the cruelty aspect, how is that pertinent to this penalty phase? That would be an appeal issue at this point, would it not? If an appeal issue, how is it being ruled on in the current venue?

Someone clue me in because it is looking like this judge is giving in to things that could be denied without any issues down the road. Unless there is more to all this than we know. (Can't imagine what, though.)

It is very confusing trying to figure out what is going on right now and why certain things are being allowed. I can't see how a PI going to the crime scene could possibly factor in as a mitigator.

We don't know if the court had Arias explain her reasons for requesting the PI go there. Right now, there is so much we don't know.

A lot of this is going to boil down to knowledge of the law and its application when it comes to the penalty phase, how strongly Martinez objects to things and cites case law and then how Judge Stephens rules.

IDK, maybe Juan is just letting Arias spin her wheels and waste time, knowing that he will object and has a huge log of case law to support his argument so that JSS has to rule in his favor???

 

[Truth Detector]

Did JSS really rule that the PI must have access to the crime scene?

For what purpose? If he is proving abuse what could possibly be at that scene now that was not found then? And if he is trying to disprove the cruelty aspect, how is that pertinent to this penalty phase? That would be an appeal issue at this point, would it not? If an appeal issue, how is it being ruled on in the current venue?

Someone clue me in because it is looking like this judge is giving in to things that could be denied without any issues down the road. Unless there is more to all this than we know. (Can't imagine what, though.)

Yes, she did.

Read that she so ordered in my prior post #677.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?253773-SIDEBAR-27-Arias-Alexanderforum&p=10883678#post10883678

 

[Truth Detector]

Is a way to see these where they can actually be read? I cant blow them up large enough to read a word. Thanks.

Clicking on the thumbnail usually results in the large image being displayed on your computer.

Don't know what hardware, operating system, browser, etc. you're running, but here's a link to the .pdf at Maricopa County Superior Court's website:

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082014/m6448306.pdf

 

[Truth Detector]

Yes, her plotting and planning so well in advance is what did her in on a claim of self defense. That's what it was called at first--self defense, as in he attacked her and she had no choice but to defend herself, etc., blah blah blah...

But self defense is a joke given they lived a thousand miles apart, he was hardly a threat to her from that distance and she was the one who made the journey...in a rented vehicle with dyed hair and gas cans in the trunk no less.

So the claim had to morph into a syndrome...an ongoing abuse resulting in a mental hold he had on her that left her almost robotic in her actions, and she is hoping she has a witness willing to state that she was under such hold mentally by TA. (I do not think it will even be touted as physical abuse during retrial because that does not excuse overkill the way mental issues can.)

All of it a lie. Yet all of it believable by people who are never able to accept that the male did not force the female's hand somehow. This is precisely where women like this score their points in court and defense attorneys know this.

But...I still fail to see how any of this necessitates JSS ordering JA's PI be given access to the crime scene (if she did so order).

Does anyone think the mystery witness and the PI are one and the same?

BBM

I assure you she did precisely that.

Review the order at this link:

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/082014/m6448306.pdf

 

[Nore]

Hi YESorNO. I'm on Johnnys computer. I haven't heard a word on mine yet which scares me. I'm still thinking of Autumn with lots of love . I peek at mail etc.. I wonder if miss priss wont tell who "mystery" is for fear of people checking said mystery out! I am so ticked at her~the poor Giraffe died. He deserved life more than she does. OK, computer going to Amy, she is hunting for coupons~take care. Nore everyone good to be here!

 

[katiecoolady]

The State pays for a capital defendant to have an investigator, but I suppose she could have hired her own as well with all her donations.

Yep, an investigators and more investigators and lawyers and paid witnesses and on and on and on and on...The State aka the taxpayers. grrrr (not at you, at the system)

 

[katiecoolady]

Usually to find mitigation witnesses.

I guess they would need a PI with a trench coat and magnifying glass for that. Seeing the ones in plain sight--aka her parents, siblings and other relatives as well as the formally suited Daryl Brewer who showed up then refused but testified on television via local media--all have declined to stand up for Her Heinous (nod to Zuri).

 

[katiecoolady]

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 19h
Maria De La Rosa has nothing to do with this twitter account, people.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 19h
Just because I am friends with Jodi and can type, doesn't make me an attractive Mexican woman.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 18h
The start of the penalty phase retrial delayed until Sept. 29th

"JODI ARIAS IS NOT TWEETING. Check here for the latest on Jodi and her status. These tweets do not reflect her opinions (unless she's directly quoted)."

That sounds like a man to me. Hmmmmm

 

[Zuri]

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 19h
Maria De La Rosa has nothing to do with this twitter account, people.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 19h
Just because I am friends with Jodi and can type, doesn't make me an attractive Mexican woman.

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 18h
The start of the penalty phase retrial delayed until Sept. 29th

"JODI ARIAS IS NOT TWEETING. Check here for the latest on Jodi and her status. These tweets do not reflect her opinions (unless she's directly quoted)."

How nice of Michael Kieffer to tweet for HEINOUS. I am deeply saddened that he would play any part in her life. I liked him and enjoyed his writings. Yet another disappointment. When will I learn...?

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

"What life is like in the Jodi Arias murder house

"."... What's happened to the bathroom where Travis Alexander was found?

A: The master bedroom and bathroom and closet upstairs have all been repainted. They have new carpeting, baseboards and new shower doors.

We did keep the shelving in his closet. I have added a lot of floral patterns in the bathroom, splashes of reds and creams, as well as paisley fabric..."


http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/what-life-is-like-in-the-jodi-arias-murder-house



[video=youtube;ic-PKGBH8oA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-PKGBH8oA[/video]

IIRC katiecoolady has been there Sam and others? and met the new owners on Sunday morning.

 

[YESorNO]

Boy this thread has been moving FAST lately... so I just wanted to comment on a few posts, before another page turns up!! LOL!

First - :laughing: at YESorNO's jokes! :drumroll: :gthanks:

snipped for space


I LOVE the movie Starman with Jeff Bridges regarding this recording!! Also, anyone remember the first Star Trek movie where they come upon Vee-ger??




:goodpost: dog.gone.cute!! Totally agree! :thumb:




:hilarious:



You sound just like my Huz - he runs outside too - to watch!! One time the lightning came VERYCLOSE to where he was standing - he felt his hair stand on end, and hit the pavement.... :naughty: it hit a tree about 5 feet where he lay... :what:

okay - back to reading!

Hope all is well with everyone! :seeya:

BBM I couldn't find the very beginning of Starman where they had the Voyager to post , Niner, but I did find my favorite part of the movie:

[video=youtube;IJsCfnuytEk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJsCfnuytEk[/video]

This Ytube trailer had a mention of the Voyager 2 in the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgF2lbAL6RA

What a good movie that was. Remember when Starman said this:

"You are a strange species. Not like any other. And you'd be surprised how many there are. Intelligent but savage. Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you?
You are at your very best when things are worst."

I remember that Star Trek movie:

VGER is Voyager 6 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaVqdz_Vk

Here's info on the Golden Record sent:

"...NASA placed a more ambitious message aboard Voyager 1 and 2-a kind of time capsule, intended to communicate a story of our world to extraterrestrials. The Voyager message is carried by a phonograph record-a 12-inch gold-plated copper disk containing sounds and images selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth...."


http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html

Greetings to the Universe in 55 Different Languages:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/greetings.html

Music From Earth:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/music.html

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How are you feeling?

 

[Hatfield]

Was wondering.

Since this penalty phase of the trial is separate from the first phase.
If something procedurally goes wrong with just this phase, then wouldnt the defendent be limited to just appeal of just this sentencing phase?

And if the answer is yes. Then I think the judge should play hard ball with her because JA is obviously going to appeal no matter what. There is no sense in letting JA make a mockery of the court or of the Alexanders or any of his friends.

Time to play hardball. The only thing that is potential to be lost is a DP getting overturned to a life sentence.
So, slam down that gavel a few times and let her have it. This is no time to let JA walk all over the system.

 

[Hatfield]

BBM I couldn't find the very beginning of Starman where they had the Voyager to post , Niner, but I did find my favorite part of the movie:

[video=youtube;IJsCfnuytEk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJsCfnuytEk[/video]

This Ytube trailer had a mention of the Voyager 2 in the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgF2lbAL6RA

What a good movie that was. Remember when Starman said this:

"You are a strange species. Not like any other. And you'd be surprised how many there are. Intelligent but savage. Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you?
You are at your very best when things are worst."

I remember that Star Trek movie:

VGER is Voyager 6 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaVqdz_Vk

Here's info on the Golden Record sent:

"...NASA placed a more ambitious message aboard Voyager 1 and 2-a kind of time capsule, intended to communicate a story of our world to extraterrestrials. The Voyager message is carried by a phonograph record-a 12-inch gold-plated copper disk containing sounds and images selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth...."


http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html

Greetings to the Universe in 55 Different Languages:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/greetings.html

Music From Earth:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/music.html

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How are you feeling?

Speaking of old fun alien type movies. Does anyone remember the movie called "Splice". LMAO

It had an alien girl that grew up rapidly and her name was "Dren".

It was one of the most interesting and good low budget alien movies I have ever seen.

I think she grew from a baby to an adult in like a week. LMAO

ETA: I fell in love with the name "Dren" from that movie. If I ever had a girl child, I think I would name her "Dren". But dont worry. My wife would most likely never allow it. Then again, she kind of liked that name too, so you never know. LOL

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

We have had 232 days so far this year, and hope the next 133 are much kinder to mankind.


1878 - The American Bar Association was formed by a group of lawyers, judges and law professors in Saratoga, NY.


1879 - The Virgin Mary, along with St. Joseph and St. John the Evangelist, reportedly appears at Knock Shrine in Knock Irleand


1911 - The Mona Lisa is stolen by an employee of the Louvre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HdBsu7jiYTU


1923 - In Kalamazoo, Michigan, an ordinance was passed forbidding dancers from gazing into the eyes of their partner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNqjkP4aio&feature=player_detailpage


1938 - The classic song "Ain't Misbehavin'" was recorded by Fats Waller.

[video=youtube;PSNPpssruFY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PSNPpssruFY[/video]


1961 - Patsy Cline recorded the Willie Nelson song, ‘Crazy’. It was on the charts for twenty one weeks and became one of her signature tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6QEDb3xzdec

and

Please Mr. Postman byThe Marvelettes beings Motown's first #1 hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425GpjTSlS4&feature=player_detailpage


1965 - The Lovin' Spoonful's "Do You Believe In Magic" was released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mDYNuD4CwlI


1967 - The Doors started recording their second album at Sunset Sound Studios, Hollywood, California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHF...onpwrCIUk7bZFhJNwUv&feature=player_detailpage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Sq9oR9x171w



1968 - Tommy James and The Shondells song " Mony Mony" becomes #1 hit for the second time .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pkMgs3lFwkQ

and in a peculiar twist, in 1987 Billy Idol's version of the song replaced another Tommy James hit at No.1 on the Billboard Hot 100 — 'I Think We're Alone Now', covered by Tiffany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=w6Q3mHyzn78


2005 - Robert Moog, inventor of the synthesiser died aged 71, four months after being diagnosed with brain cancer. Dr Moog built his first electronic instrument, a theremin - aged 14 and made the MiniMoog, "the first compact, easy-to-use synthesiser" in 1970. He won the Polar prize, Sweden's "music Nobel prize", in 2001. Wendy Carlos' 1968 Grammy award-winning album, Switched-On Bach, brought Dr Moog to prominence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zi5-WRgA5GI

 

[Tuba]

Remember Arias in television interview saying, Yes, that is a lie. "I have lied before but that doesn't make me a liar." She seems to consider her actions at the Mesa house in the same light. Yes, I committed a murder but that doesn't make me a murderer.

 

[Chelly]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1h
Does #jodiarias want the camera's back? Wonder who filed this?! pic.twitter.com/tx0mqABU99

OhBoyOhBoyOhBoy!!! Looks like Jodi has filed for cameras in the courtroom!!!!!

:happydance:

 

[YESorNO]

Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
8/21/2014 064 - ME: Trial Continued/Reset - Party (001) 8/21/2014
8/21/2014 REQ - Request - Party (001) 8/21/2014
NOTE: REQUEST FOR CAMERA COVERAGE AND MODIFICATION OF MAY 21, 2014 RULING

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021