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Hi Geevee. I am totally confused too and don't have the energy tonight to get me unconfused.

Hiya Chelly. :) I'd like to think there might be clarification at Friday's hearing but it's closed. :(
 
Welcome lewcch3!

I'm totally confused as to whose witness the Bishop is, maybe he was the one subpoenaed but if he's a State witness, why does JSS have to order him to have an interview with JM? If he's defense, why is his name not sealed? I'm all confused. But glad to meet you!

He's a state witness. The wording to me is odd but I don't think it necessarily means the judge had to order him to submit to an interview. And even so, witnesses are not always willing and available even for the side they're subpoenad for.
 
He's a state witness. The wording to me is odd but I don't think it necessarily means the judge had to order him to submit to an interview. And even so, witnesses are not always willing and available even for the side they're subpoenad for.

No doubt the wording of JSS' order is strange, but I can see why the Bishop might not want to be involved, he wouldn't want to break any confidences nor be in trouble with the court if he had to divulge more info than he felt comfortable with. And who in their right mind would want to be involved with this circus under any circumstances? Not much good could come from it.
 
No doubt the wording of JSS' order is strange, but I can see why the Bishop might not want to be involved, he wouldn't want to break any confidences nor be in trouble with the court if he had to divulge more info than he felt comfortable with. And who in their right mind would want to be involved with this circus under any circumstances? Not much good could come from it.

Totally. I imagine if Juan was wanting a Mormon leader to call finding one willing to get involved with this is difficult. Just gotta get 'er done though.
 
Good Evening All,

I am a newbie to this site and after lurking in the shadows for quite sometime (not having the courage to post as you guys are so awesome!) I have a burning question re the latest revelation of the Bishop to testify in the upcoming retrial of the penalty phase. As I understand it from the Justice 4 Travis site, the Bishop is a defense witness. With that said, here is my question: How is it that the Bishop cannot discuss anything with Juan from a sealed proceeding/hearing? I was under the impression that witnesses share information with either the defense team or Juan, each side is privy to that information. So, again, why is he forbidden to discuss anything with Juan? No one side owns a witness and Juan should be aware of whatever discussions where held that have now been sealed. How is the DT able to exclude Juan from hearing that information or even discussing it with a witness?

TIA!! I really love this site!!


:welcome4:
 
And an update


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XdxakztDoZ0


and for those that have been following Hanna Graham the suspect Jessi Mathews has been arrested in Galveston Texas tonight.


He's been charged with kidnapping Hannah with the intent to sexually assault her,. She went missing after being seen with his arm around her waist while leading her out the door,
and she hasn't been seen since after midnight September 13.. She's eighteen years old.


Four young women have dissappeared in five years. Only one has been found, and the dna that she had on her matched the unknown dna found on a rape victim
 
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/05/10/exclusive-jodis-chilling-e-mail

I found this old article and don't remember ever reading this before. She is a real weirdo. LOL - I haven't said that word in 20 years.

e-mail sent by Jodi Arias on Sept. 1, 2008 to a leader at Travis Alexander's employer Pre-Paid Legal.

I am writing this letter in regards to Travis Alexander, whose life was taken last June. He was a good friend of mine. Am also, at present, in custody as I am being charged with his murder.

I am not writing this solely to plead my own innocence. That goes without saying -- as Travis meant the world to me and I would never harm him.

It is my understanding that his memory will be honored and recognized in Las Vegas this September. I would humbly remind those who say any different -- that I am innocent until proven guilty.

It is with a spirit of humility that I would ask that if I am in any way referenced during Travis' memorial at the team breakout, that my implied innocence is taken into account.

With humble gratitude,

Jodi Ann Arias


Ladies and Gentlemen of the WS Jury...

I present to you 'the smoking gun'. Please referenced the bolded text above, in Jodi's own words... Travis' - the identical wording on those damn joe boxers that she insists he made. Wrong, she had them made.

PS - what kind of narcissistic tool worries about how she is discussed at someone else's memorial... sheesh.

Carry on.
 
Good morning :seeya:


New tweet from missy :jail:

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 12h
"You hear things in jail you don't usually hear elsewhere, such as, 'I took my little brother to his first home invasion.'" -- #JodiArias

(Why she is still having "whoever" tweet her nonsense is beyond me.
And why is she "hearing" things in jail- isn't she in solitary???)
 
They meet once or twice a month~~ive never cared much for him so DH goes by himself.

He was prescribed mirtazapine for sleep?


Mirtazapine

"Mirtazapine is used to treat depression. It improves mood and feelings of well-being. Mirtazapine is an antidepressant that works by restoring the balance of natural chemicals (neurotransmitters) in the brain...

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-13706-4047/mirtazapine-oral/mirtazapine-oral/details

Side effects:

"Dizziness, drowsiness, lightheadedness, increased appetite, weight gain, dry mouth, or constipation may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly..."

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-13706-4047/mirtazapine-oral/mirtazapine-oral/details#side-effects

Hope this med works for your DH, Zoey.
 
Good morning :seeya:


New tweet from missy :jail:

Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 12h
"You hear things in jail you don't usually hear elsewhere, such as, 'I took my little brother to his first home invasion.'" -- #JodiArias

(Why she is still having "whoever" tweet her nonsense is beyond me.
And why is she "hearing" things in jail- isn't she in solitary???)

Yep, she's still in solitary. And clearly still pretending to herself that she's starring in a reality show that will end someplace other than Perryville.
 
About her odd letter asking that she be considered innocent. Its really sunk in for me that deep down inside the killer she knows she doesn't exist. There's no person inside her. Her dead eyes reflect the reality of empty space.

She breathes and bleeds and has all the physical parts of a person, but I think that's where she ends. With nothing inside, her outside is everything to her. How people see her is her only and whole identity.

Which is why she feels she must control how others view her. Which is why she said to Flores that her reputation WAS the rest of her life. Which is why she murdered Travis. He threatened to reveal her for what she is-- an empty parasite, and that above all else was intolerable.
 
He's a state witness. The wording to me is odd but I don't think it necessarily means the judge had to order him to submit to an interview. And even so, witnesses are not always willing and available even for the side they're subpoenad for.

I'm not so sure anymore he is a state witness. How do you know for sure he is?
 
I'm not so sure anymore he is a state witness. How do you know for sure he is?

See my post in the re-trial thread :) Jen discussed on twitter why she said he's a state witness. I'm not super positive but her reasoning makes sense.
 
Never mind. Jen might be wrong here.


https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/711743835568428

"UPDATE RE VERNON PARKER -
It was confirmed to me that Parker was the bishop in Travis' ward from people who attended said ward. The fact that he's a State witness came from another page. That is now being disputed due to the latest minute entry. As it stands, I can't confirm if Parker is a State or Def. witness. I'm sorry for not checking that fact before posting - I trusted the source. It won't happen again. My apologies to you all.
Feel free to chime in with your thoughts/views.
Also, please let me know what you think of this page and if you'd like to see any changes, improvements etc. What can we do to make this a better experience for you, going forward?
EDITED TO ADD: Parker is a def. witness."

So confused. He's from Travis' old ward but the defense wants to call him?
 
So, I'm reading through the comments and it seems the only reason the State Vs JA page is saying he's a defense witness is because of the minute entry. I don't think anyone really knows but at this point I still think he will be called by the state and that the wording of the minute entry doesn't mean what we think it means. People are thinking the judge had to order him to talk to Juan. I don't think that's what it says. I don't think "order" means "order" here. Simply that the judge was making a note of the interview or something along those lines. Jen never said anything about Juan needing to get the judge to push for an interview as he did in the past when witnesses weren't turned over to him. But that he intends to call him. I still think he's a state witness.
 
My phone is still saying to update to the 8.0 update…..it alerts me every time I plug into my mac every night.
 
My phone is still saying to update to the 8.0 update…..it alerts me every time I plug into my mac every night.

Mine too. Maybe they pulled back the 8.01 update after this mess and put the 8.0 back. I don't know if I have updated to 8.0. Maybe not. Now I don't even know if I should update to that one.
 
Mirtazapine

"Mirtazapine is used to treat depression. It improves mood and feelings of well-being. Mirtazapine is an antidepressant that works by restoring the balance of natural chemicals (neurotransmitters) in the brain...

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-13706-4047/mirtazapine-oral/mirtazapine-oral/details

Side effects:

"Dizziness, drowsiness, lightheadedness, increased appetite, weight gain, dry mouth, or constipation may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly..."

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-13706-4047/mirtazapine-oral/mirtazapine-oral/details#side-effects

Hope this med works for your DH, Zoey.

Keep notes on how he does on this....note day, time, how many days....what you observed and how he feels,also of others make any comments....it helps the medical staff, if they need to change the drug or family of drugs
 
Mine too. Maybe they pulled back the 8.01 update after this mess and put the 8.0 back. I don't know if I have updated to 8.0. Maybe not. Now I don't even know if I should update to that one.

The new update is awful. But my iPad was messing up...and it does that when Apple has a new update out. It is like Apple programs it to go slower, crash, no pics...so I went and updated and then the issues got worse. I then had to update the phone and lap top or nothing would work at all....now they work but there are so many issues. I would wait to update....good luck!
 
I realize you don't know me at all but just wanted to give you my perspective on mirtazapine. My doc and I really like it because it simply helps me sleep-and at HIGHER doses there are even studies that it improves quality of sleep and wakefulness during the day! I love it--and I've been on a LOT of sleep meds. Just my two cents-best wishes.

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thank you ~~ive never heard of it before
 
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