SIDEBAR #30- Arias/Alexander forum

[Niner]

I will pay the membership for anyone wanting to subscribe to view Beth's site. I am doing it in Princess Sez Me's honor. Just let me know the who, what ,when where and I will take care of it. Xoxo

Oh Zuri = that is SO nice of you!! I still have PrincessSezMe as my friend! :loveyou:

:wave:

 

[watergirl62]

Here's a question:
I have been watching the trial videos as I wasn't keeping up during the actual trial. Jodi took the stand on day 13 and I am on day 14. Could somebody please tell me how many days she will be on the stand?

I already want to set my head on fire. :gaah: She really seems to be ENJOYING this. :crazy:

 

[krkrjx]

Here's a question:
I have been watching the trial videos as I wasn't keeping up during the actual trial. Jodi took the stand on day 13 and I am on day 14. Could somebody please tell me how many days she will be on the stand?

I already want to set my head on fire. :gaah: She really seems to be ENJOYING this. :crazy:

Too many.

(Seriously though--I believe it was 18 days.)

 

[jevipo74]

Here's a question:
I have been watching the trial videos as I wasn't keeping up during the actual trial. Jodi took the stand on day 13 and I am on day 14. Could somebody please tell me how many days she will be on the stand?

I already want to set my head on fire. :gaah: She really seems to be ENJOYING this. :crazy:

18 mind-numbingly, excruciating long days. The droning monitone voice is enough to drive you insane.

 

[Ricki]

I just watched the two videos. She is definitely not scratching her neck. Those gestures are exactly the same and done after she hears something that she does not like.
I also watched Searcy squirming on the stand. Who was in the car that he really did not want to mention?

 

[cindymac]

Here's a question:
I have been watching the trial videos as I wasn't keeping up during the actual trial. Jodi took the stand on day 13 and I am on day 14. Could somebody please tell me how many days she will be on the stand?

I already want to set my head on fire. :gaah: She really seems to be ENJOYING this. :crazy:

As krkrjx says, she'll be spewing her drivel for a full 18 days - with as much emotion as if she was describing 1001 ways to cook broccoli. Actually, I think that would be overstating it. And afterwards, don't throw away your sick bag. Next up will be Dr. Samuels (about five or six days) followed by LaViolette (about 11 days). The good news is that the tedium's well rewarded when Martinez rips their testimony - and credibility - to shreds.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

October 17, the 292sd day of the year. There are 73 days of fear and trembling in this world


1888 - The first issue of "National Geographic Magazine" was released at newsstands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ubqg6OguWwo


1931 - Al Capone was convicted of income tax evasion for which he was sentenced to 11 years in prison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VzfWQ7TRF8w


1940 - Will Bradley’s orchestra recorded "Five O’Clock Whistle", on Columbia Records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OCmJBoUdx_g


1957 - Johnny Mathis sings "Chances Are" to top the charts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oSENhYSn1qQ


1965 - The Worlds Fair ends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gPHbVY-Kq_A


1965 - Phil Spector, Tommy Boyce, and Bobby Hart all guest star on tonight's "Jeannie, The Hip Hippie" episode of NBC-TV's I Dream of Jeannie.



[video=youtube;4H5jaQlq7ms]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4H5jaQlq7ms[/video]



and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Gfb-S9ALBGo



1974 - Benji the Dog hits the big screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8en_0oRv8w8


1979 - Mother Teresa of India was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r8hd-CsJ_iU

 

[Wagara]

I will pay the membership for anyone wanting to subscribe to view Beth's site. I am doing it in Princess Sez Me's honor. Just let me know the who, what ,when where and I will take care of it. Xoxo

Zuri...I would gladly accept your offer but I only have internet on my phone and use tapatalk for ease. I just wanted to thank you for your kind offer. I read Princess' posts often and think this is a wonderful way to honor her. Thank you.

 

[Ricki]

A little silly fun to break up the drama. Saw this on you tube and thought it captured the emotions of mother hood in a semi truthful way. It also goes along with the season. Very cute IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bZzW4YbkAJY

 

[Cailin Rua]

Would those gestures be something that could be brought up in sentencing? If it's on YouTube then the prosecutor has to be aware of it.

 

[rose222]

Thanks for the clips, Rose. I just watched them again. Juan Martinez and Detective Flores must be towards the top of her kill list now. The throat cutting gesture is almost a physical tick. She is evil enough to use it intentionally but it appears to be instinctive body language. She is running her 'triumphant' final slice through her head.

I just watched the two videos. She is definitely not scratching her neck. Those gestures are exactly the same and done after she hears something that she does not like.
I also watched Searcy squirming on the stand. Who was in the car that he really did not want to mention?

Would those gestures be something that could be brought up in sentencing? If it's on YouTube then the prosecutor has to be aware of it.

Yes, and if you notice with the victim impact statements video, she waited till the jury left the courtroom before doing it.

I wish the jurors could see it and draw their own conclusions. However, considering that even solid facts have not been allowed into evidence I doubt something this subjective will be.

I don't think most criminals actually enjoy killing especially not with knives and bloodbaths. I'm not able to fathom how this freak not only almost beheaded a man but seems to delight in it again and again. This is why no therapy can soothe her, no amount of kindness can soften her (quite the opposite actually), no medication can cure her--you can't cure evil. She needs to be put down or at least caged like a rabid beast.

 

[watergirl62]

18 mind-numbingly, excruciating long days. The droning monitone voice is enough to drive you insane.

Seriously?

...

:thinking: So if you convert 18 Arias court days (3 hrs/day) into working days (8 hrs/day) that's like 54 hours, so lets say 7 working days. Non-stop... I am definitely going to need therapy.


Shoutout to TxJan1971!! :heartbeat: :woot:
I read vs watched the interrogation transcripts so I could process what she was saying without the distraction of the glaring incongruity between her voice/projection/presentation of herself and the hideous reality of the situation. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around that disconnect. Surreal.

 

[YESorNO]

I don't remember if I posted this already:

Jodi Arias Retrial of Penalty Phase Set to Open October 21st.

http://thetrialdiaries.com/jodi-arias-retrial-of-penalty-phase-set-to-open-october-21st/

:autumn:

:seeya:

 

[krkrjx]

TrialWatcher...Arias has done the cut throat motion many times. Here are two more instances:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psHxJ01pqoI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLxNbzveMyY

ETA: She should never be free, I agree. She loved killing Travis and she will do it all over again to the Hughes, Mimi, Deanna, Juan Martinez, Demarte, Judge Stephens...her list gets longer every week.

For some people grudges never go away and in fact can even grow stronger over time. There was recently a news article about a man released from many years in prison who immediately upon release sought out and killed his mother. So for all who think what I have bolded might be farfetched, it really is not--not when you consider the mindset of people who are evil to the core. Most of the time there is no cure for that level of evil--I am aware only one case that I wholeheartedly believe such evil was overcome and I cannot see Arias as a good candidate for redemption because she refuses to own any of what she has done.

 

[YESorNO]

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Kensie I have thought the same thing more than once. Anyone can trace, that is not art. Such a shame she gets away with it. I honestly feel some think her "art" will be worth something after she dies.

I did some research :lookingitup: on Copyrighting of art/photographs, etc. and couldn't come to any conclusions about how missy:jail: can get away with the copying she does of other people's work- it just confused me more. kay: Maybe someone else can sort it out, if so inclined? :thinking:

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COPYRIGHT: AN OVERVIEW

"The owner of a copyright has the exclusive right to reproduce, distribute, perform, display, license, and to prepare derivative works based on the copyrighted work. See § 106. The exclusive rights of the copyright owner are subject to limitation by the doctrine of "fair use." See § 107. Fair use of a copyrighted work for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research is not copyright infringement. To determine whether or not a particular use qualifies as fair use, courts apply a multi-factor balancing test. See § 107.

Copyright protection subsists in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. See § 102. Copyright protection does not extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery. For example, if a book is written describing a new system of bookkeeping, copyright protection only extends to the author's description of the bookkeeping system; it does not protect the system itself. See Baker v. Selden, 101 U.S. 99 (1879)....

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/copyright
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Copyright for Artists FAQ

http://painting.about.com/od/copyrightforartistsfaq/
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Image Rights: Harvard Law School- Art Law:

http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/martin/art_law/image_rights.htm
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Copyright Basics - Artists Rights Society

What is Copyright?
Who Owns Copyrights?
How Long Is a Work Copyright-Protected in the United States?
How Long Is a Work Copyright-Protected Worldwide?
What Is the “Public Domain”?
The Berne Convention & International Laws

http://www.arsny.com/basics.html
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-area of copyright law called derivatives. It is kind of a gray area.

-breach of copyright if you don't identify the source and identify it as a reproduction or
It's original, if you painted it. If you want you can sight the source. Once it's published you have the right (as an artist) to be inspired to paint, sculpt, write a song or whatever, but you can't reproduce the photo as a photo.

Published photographs are copyrighted. If you paint a published photo and then sell the painting, that is copyright infringement and you could be sued. Case in point, the painting of Obama taken from the cover of a magazine. It's in the courts right now. This is where I'm stumped because she's copying from a photo and selling it. Why is no one stopping her?

You would have to alter the painting to the extent that it would not be recognized as the photograph you took it from.
or- if you change your painting a little to the original photograph. Leave out some things, or put more in.

Then your work is regarded as an original, and sell it as such.

But then there's this:

Art Glossary: Derivative Art:

"..A painting based on a photograph is also a derivative work because you're adapting and transforming it. (Remember, there's a difference between using photos for reference and copying one!..."

http://painting.about.com/od/artglossaryd/g/defderivative.htm

So- then she is transforming the photo and this is OK??? But then there's this:
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Question: Artist's Copyright FAQ: May I Make a Painting of a Photograph?

"A painting made from a photograph is known as a derivative work. But that doesn't mean you can simply make a painting from any photo you find -- you need to check the copyright situation of the photo...

..The creator of the photograph, i.e. the photographer, usually holds the copyright to the photo and, unless they've expressly given permission for its use, making a painting based on a photo would infringe the photographer's copyright. In terms of US copyright law: "Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or to authorize someone else to create, a new version of that work."1...

....The absence of a copyright notice on a photo doesn’t mean copyright doesn't apply.

Reference:
• 1. Copyright Registration for Derivative Works, US Copyright Office Circular 14, 05/2008

http://painting.about.com/cs/artistscopyright/f/copyrightfaq5.htm

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More :blah::blah:.....:sheesh: :

Legally Using Images

Do You Always Need to Obtain Permission?

Those familiar with fair use know that it is always up to a court of law to determine its applicability in any one situation. As such if you need reassurance or are in doubt, it is always best to obtain permission. There are a few circumstances when you do not need permission. If the image you are using is in the public domain, a U.S. federal government image (though not all government works are in the public domain), or the copyright owner has clearly (and reliably) stated that you may freely use the image without obtaining permission.

http://www.copyrightlaws.com/us/legally-using-images/
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Copy or Borrow From Other Artists?

How Far Can You Go?

"...Creating paintings from photographs taken by people other than yourself may or may not violate copyright laws....

... if a particular photographer is known for portraying images in certain unique ways that are readily identifiable with that photographer, and you copy one of their photographic compositions or incorporate it liberally and literally into your art, then you may be liable for copyright infringement...

Using other people's compositions or images to make money for yourself without first asking their permission and agreeing in advance about how you intend to use those images puts you significantly at risk for infringement.

On the other hand, if your painting is your own personal interpretation of a photographer's techniques for achieving certain visual effects, and you use those techniques as inspiration for your ideas rather than copy them directly, you're probably in the clear-- assuming your painting is not readily identifiable as a copy of that artist's work.

http://www.artbusiness.com/copyprobs.html
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RBM

:gaah:

 

[Nymeria]

I just watched the two videos. She is definitely not scratching her neck. Those gestures are exactly the same and done after she hears something that she does not like.
I also watched Searcy squirming on the stand. Who was in the car that he really did not want to mention?

I am in the process of rewatching myself, and yesterday was Gus Searcy day :gaah:

For some reason he infuriates me more than any of the other players (not including JA).
He is so full of himself! It seems he thinks because he is a big man in a pyramid scheme that he is on the same level as a Bill Gates or a Zuckerburg. No honey, just NO.

His trying to outdo Juan, the obvious scream for media attention by inserting himself into the trial :dramaqueen:, and the best part of all was the uber overblown self importance he tried to place on himself with the "secret car passenger" dialogue on the stand :facepalm:

Flashing that tacky "$100,000" level ring just put me over the top. :snooty:

 

[YESorNO]

A little silly fun to break up the drama. Saw this on you tube and thought it captured the emotions of mother hood in a semi truthful way. It also goes along with the season. Very cute IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bZzW4YbkAJY

Mombie's :floorlaugh:

I'm glad I'm done with all that.

 

[YESorNO]

I am in the process of rewatching myself, and yesterday was Gus Searcy day :gaah:

For some reason he infuriates me more than any of the other players (not including JA).
He is so full of himself! It seems he thinks because he is a big man in a pyramid scheme that he is on the same level as a Bill Gates or a Zuckerburg. No honey, just NO.

His trying to outdo Juan, the obvious scream for media attention by inserting himself into the trial :dramaqueen:, and the best part of all was the uber overblown self importance he tried to place on himself with the "secret car passenger" dialogue on the stand :facepalm:

Flashing that tacky "$100,000" level ring just put me over the top. :snooty:

Who was in that car with him? I think it came out later on- somewhere I did read it?? Can't remember where and who.

 

[daisydomino]

I am in the process of rewatching myself, and yesterday was Gus Searcy day :gaah:

For some reason he infuriates me more than any of the other players (not including JA).
He is so full of himself! It seems he thinks because he is a big man in a pyramid scheme that he is on the same level as a Bill Gates or a Zuckerburg. No honey, just NO.

His trying to outdo Juan, the obvious scream for media attention by inserting himself into the trial :dramaqueen:, and the best part of all was the uber overblown self importance he tried to place on himself with the "secret car passenger" dialogue on the stand :facepalm:

Flashing that tacky "$100,000" level ring just put me over the top. :snooty:

BBM Triangle scheme, lol.

Did we ever find out who the passenger was? I love it when he says he hasn't got a lawyer handy right then.
[video=youtube;xb9S-DMD6yE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb9S-DMD6yE[/video]

 

[krkrjx]

YorN's smiley playing in leaves made me think of this:

Last Sunday I raked my yard. I live on a corner and have lots of trees and leaves blow into my hard from the neighbors as well. Needless to say I have lots of leaves to rake so when finished I had several enormous piles of leaves at the curbs of two streets. Normally the city picks up on Monday but it rained here Monday and Tuesday so nothing was picked up. Sometime Wednesday I noticed my leaf piles were almost demolished--strewn out in the road and again all over my yard, somehow. The wind? No, not likely, so what could have done that? Someone's dog out for a romp, probably.

I went out Friday morning and raked up the mess, again neatly piling the leaves at both curbs. An hour and a half later it was a job well done; I was a mess and getting hungry. I had about an hour to clean up and think about what to make for lunch.

Shortly before noon I was in the kitchen and glanced out the window. There it was again...all my hard work nearly destroyed! Yes, the wind was blowing but not enough to do that! I stared out the window and thought I saw a clump of leaves move--not like the wind was blowing it but like there was something moving around underneath. It stopped. Or I imagined it in the first place. I watched, and moments later saw the leaves moving again. Most of the action was obscured from view due to a large maple tree just outside the window. I saw something just to the left of the tree, just not sure what.

Finally, he romped around enough so I could see him clearly--a little boy who could not be more than three or four years old. He seemed to be out there alone--no playmate or parent anywhere to be seen. I watched him roll around in glee in what was left of a leaf pile and then scramble to his feet and begin clutching armfuls of leaves and transporting them up in to my yard.

This child is about as cute as cute can be, and a pile of leaves will practically shout out loud that there is endless fun to be had. I do not know where this tot belongs or why he was out alone unsupervised but I am going out today to buy a child sized rake. The next time he comes to my yard to play I will present it to him and suggest he go to his house and rake up a pile of leaves to play in right there in his own yard.

I hope it works because leaf raking is not one of my favorite chores. Also, there is a chance this little guy could get hurt; one pile that I raked up had a snake under it...ew!... But there are chances for injury in too many ways besides that and we live in a world where people are often quick to bring suit over everything and anything.

I am now thinking maybe I should not rake up the leaves anymore. If the city were picking up on some kind of schedule I would not have them sitting for days waiting to be picked up. But that is not the case here. And really, there is no law that says it must be done--I have always done it because I like my yard to look well kept. Anyway, I hope the child finds raking fun and who knows, maybe I am about to make a new friend.