Sidebar Discussion #10

[grammieto5]

<modsnip> is waaaaaay past her expiration date.

I logged on just to say I soooo agree with you!!! And I'm someoone who is really really old too She should have left along time ago.

 

[LambChop]

i cant find a circumstantial evidence heading lol..
but ive had a few convo's with lily

Most crimes are not committed in front of people or cameras so the majority of cases are based on circumstantial evidence. There was more reasonable doubt in the story JB was telling the jury and they never were able to connect the dots.....such as how did Caylee's body go from the trunk of KC's car for 2.6 days and end up in the swamp. They just never considered that. That was their responsibility because if they could not connect those dots JB's story was false. The truth would have been obvious. Defense provided no proof of any of the statements JB made during his opening. The jury never even caught the "could have" or "may have" when JB was relating what could have happened. The jury freed KC on the possibility that JB was telling the truth not on facts which were lying just a few short feet from where they deliberated. They failed the system miserably. jmo

 

[LEFT-COASTER]

Most crimes are not committed in front of people or cameras so the majority of cases are based on circumstantial evidence. There was more reasonable doubt in the story JB was telling the jury and they never were able to connect the dots.....such as how did Caylee's body go from the trunk of KC's car for 2.6 days and end up in the swamp. They just never considered that. That was their responsibility because if they could not connect those dots JB's story was false. The truth would have been obvious. Defense provided no proof of any of the statements JB made during his opening. The jury never even caught the "could have" or "may have" when JB was relating what could have happened. The jury freed KC on the possibility that JB was telling the truth not on facts which were lying just a few short feet from where they deliberated. They failed the system miserably. jmo

oo i know and agree with every thing you said..

I was basically saying i couldnt find a heading about the circumstantial thread she was speaking about at amazon..

 

[TotallyObsessed]

It was Lincoln but Mr. Barnum may have borrowed it. lol

I think P.T. Barnum said "There is a sucker born every minute"...and I also think JB borrowed THAT!

 

[TotallyObsessed]

Most crimes are not committed in front of people or cameras so the majority of cases are based on circumstantial evidence. There was more reasonable doubt in the story JB was telling the jury and they never were able to connect the dots.....such as how did Caylee's body go from the trunk of KC's car for 2.6 days and end up in the swamp. They just never considered that. That was their responsibility because if they could not connect those dots JB's story was false. The truth would have been obvious. Defense provided no proof of any of the statements JB made during his opening. The jury never even caught the "could have" or "may have" when JB was relating what could have happened. The jury freed KC on the possibility that JB was telling the truth not on facts which were lying just a few short feet from where they deliberated. They failed the system miserably. jmo

Excellent points. The circumstantial evidence for Casey murdering her daughter was MUCH stronger than the circumstantial evidence that George found a drowned baby and hid the body. OMG - those P12 make my blood boil. So what was the deciding factor in which set of "circumstances" they believed? JB smiling at them every morning. I am going to puke.

 

[LambChop]

I think P.T. Barnum said "There is a sucker born every minute"...and I also think JB borrowed THAT!

And 12 being the magic number. jmo

 

[LEFT-COASTER]

newest ranking at amazon..
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,359 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

#2 in Books > Law > Criminal Law
#23 in Books > Biographies & Memoirs > True Accounts > Murder & Mayhem

how low can it go lol.. Im hoping it hits 2000 today..

 

[FaerieB]

I don't know about that specific comment but I believe Dr. Lillian Glass referred to George dumping Krystal after this"encounter", maybe even on her WebSleuths interview but I can't be certain.

Yes, but JB has it in quotes as part of her testimony.

 

[TorisMom003]

i cant find a circumstantial evidence heading lol..
but ive had a few convo's with lily

Circumstantial Evidence Saved A Psychopath............try that one for Lily

 

[FaerieB]

I'm not replying directly to the question you asked about post-trial contact, but I am extremely interested in anything Baez had to say about the jury or jurors. If you have the time and wouldn't mind, could you give an indication of what he had to say?

Thanks!

I'm just heading out of town, but I promise to compile a list and post it when I'm back on Saturday.

 

[logicalgirl]

i cant find a circumstantial evidence heading lol..
but ive had a few convo's with lily

Isn't it the second review on the first page??:waitasec:

 

[TorisMom003]

LC is used to looking under the discussions section, LOL. Sometimes I even forget that there are comments under the reviews themselves.

 

[Oldsoul2]

Probably how he found out about Yuri.

Thats exactly how it happened...said he posted here under some name...cant remember.

There are some serious accusations on Joses' part in this book let me tell you. Not only that but I like how he coaxes FCA to tell him GA molested her by suggestion. He starts by bringing up Lee and what he heard and than tells her "where did he learn that from" she says "who do you think" he says how many times did your father molest you....there it was...give FCA a good story and a pity party and there you have it. Jose really, truly believes this theory, the pool, GA being there and burying Caylee etc... he said all the evidence backed it up, KC telling him she was home that day after GA left for work, the pings say yes its true except "the area" is not necessarily the house, she did bury her in the woods near the house, probably scouted where to go in a panic. I have to say Jose bought it all hook, line and sinker, stupid, stupid man. He never approached Cindy with this accusation of molestation when he heard it from FCA in prison. He called GA to his office with CM and asked him point blank and GA said nothing really. The man was probably depleated from his daughters lies but Jose claims its cause he is guilty...please Jose, you're no specialist in peoples reactions as we can see from what you bought from FCA. Why didnt he vere ask Cindy about it?

 

[lisalei321]

The discussion groups seemed very quiet this morning..

 

[LEFT-COASTER]

LC is used to looking under the discussions section, LOL. Sometimes I even forget that there are comments under the reviews themselves.

yups..lol

i started a new one in the discussion area about jose saying that amy stabbed casey in the back. ....
the gall of that man.. jezzz..

ok im off to work.. see you all later from there..

 

[TorisMom003]

yups..lol

i started a new one in the discussion area about jose saying that amy stabbed casey in the back. ....
the gall of that man.. jezzz..

ok im off to work.. see you all later from there..

You know me, I already saw it. Commented too. Hopefully those peeps have figured out that when they start spewing the carp they do that there will be plenty of others with the truth, and the links to back it up, to prove them wrong. Then there are some that appear to be very hard headed that haven't figured it out yet.

 

[krkrjx]

I also think, like JB's presentation in court which was "dumbed down" so to speak...you know what I mean, not high techy - kind of J-paddish and all :floorlaugh: - that this book is "dumbed down" to appeal to a certain type of person who can be fooled very easily. P12-like people. So if you have that type of mentality, it probably is nobel prize material.

I think you nailed it! And with that it is understandable how some can review this book as "an easy read" of "very informative," and so on.

Written by empty heads, intended for empty heads, and dedicated to empty heads.

 

[Nore]

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I wonder if he realizes who stabbed who first? I havent seen the book anywhere in the Cleveland area. I bought mine at WalMart. What did she have in mind telling Amy she could move in the next week!!!:what:

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OMG!!! I gave the wrong info! I havent seen Baez's book at all. I bought Ashtons at WalMart. I will never buy B's book.:maddening:

 

[com n sense]

Thats exactly how it happened...said he posted here under some name...cant remember.

There are some serious accusations on Joses' part in this book let me tell you. Not only that but I like how he coaxes FCA to tell him GA molested her by suggestion. He starts by bringing up Lee and what he heard and than tells her "where did he learn that from" she says "who do you think" he says how many times did your father molest you....there it was...give FCA a good story and a pity party and there you have it. Jose really, truly believes this theory, the pool, GA being there and burying Caylee etc... he said all the evidence backed it up, KC telling him she was home that day after GA left for work, the pings say yes its true except "the area" is not necessarily the house, she did bury her in the woods near the house, probably scouted where to go in a panic. I have to say Jose bought it all hook, line and sinker, stupid, stupid man. He never approached Cindy with this accusation of molestation when he heard it from FCA in prison. He called GA to his office with CM and asked him point blank and GA said nothing really. The man was probably depleated from his daughters lies but Jose claims its cause he is guilty...please Jose, you're no specialist in peoples reactions as we can see from what you bought from FCA. Why didnt he vere ask Cindy about it?

Because he knew it wasn't true! JB made the defence all by himself & KC ran with it when her dad gave her permission on the stand by saying "he would do anything to protect his daughter" IMO JB got GA to say that to prove to KC that her dad would back her on this horrible accusation.
If you remember after JB spewed his opening statement & then called GA up to the stand, KC was bawling. IMO she really believed her dad would cover for her.
When GA denied it all KC was so angry & full of hate for him through out the rest of the trial. I know alot won't see it as I do, but it certainly fits.
JB made it all about sex cause he knows sex sells. Sick....

Just want to add that JB knew he had the perfect defence - if GA covered for KC & said he was guilty he won, if GA denied it everyone would think he was guilty.

 

[2goldfish]

IMO Baez is counting on people basing their opinion on the media coverage. The media covered the thefts from Amy, since she became a convicted felon for those. He is not counting the general public reading all of the discovery and the many, many thefts long forgotten.

my snip, big bold by me...


that is 100% what he is doing and always has been! his talk, talk, talk about people basing their opinions off the media is ALL EMPTY just like his head IMO JMO


additionally, HE KNOWS WE ALL READ THE DOCS. he mentions WS by name in his book! he deliberately attempts to insult us, and denigrate the memory of a MURDERED LITTLE GIRL in order to WHAT?? I dont know!!! he has no reason to open his mouth at all!

you cant change reality JB! we ALL read ALL the docs, we know all of the facts, and what is more, we know them better than you! I'm GLAD you're insulted at us laughing at your stupid motions that werent worth the paper they were printed on!

that STUPID VERDICT and your HORRIBLE CLIENT and your SMARMY attitude and your crappy book of LIES will NEVER change the absolute facts of this case, and I hope you're realllllly proud of yourself that you managed to fool 12 people stupider than you, and a few thousand others besides, because otherwise? the rest of us know all about you, and all about your heartless murderer of a client. you have no power to change ANY of that.


MOO JMO IMO etc etc