Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #4

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Good points, MsBashterd! Welcome!

I do know there are motorcyclists here in Texas who have a charity for children, so you have a valid point about them not going after kids.

I read a little about the Bandidos. They are the second largest motorcycle gang in the world, next to the Hell's Angels.


All Bandidos are scumbags IMO no matter what business they're in or what they do. My oldest daughter got involved with this bunch and got on drugs. I figure they'd murder the person who cheated them of money or squealed, not a couple of children though. Of course, around here, I never hear of any of them ever getting into any trouble or charged with anything as a group.
 
Skyla's video had a ton of photos with her family - in fact it was MOSTLY of her with the family. Taylor's had not a single photo of her with her family or taken anywhere but at school - and there were photos taken at school events like the crowning of a "King and Queen type event with Taylor all dressed up wearing a crown - where surely her GP's were there and surely someone (the school, the boy's parents?) would have gotten a pic with Taylor and her family in it. I think it was intentional to exclude every single family member from the public video for a reason.

And yeah, the perp could be anybody, but I don't think it was. Stranger killings of children not associated with sexual assault or kidnapping are very rare - especially "execution style" killings of TWO girls in a rural area 300 yards from home.

The lack of progress says it isn't a local or someone known to a local.

And I am wondering if the girls were used as "bait" to get to someone else? Did the perp "wound them" so they would call GP and then have to kill them because people drove by and saw him. GP was looking for the girls pretty quickly...why?? Did he get a call? Is that why he found them so fast and said "they killed them"? Was the perp after someone else and only holding the girls as bait? Is that why they didn't run and were found lying 5' apart? Is that why a smaller cailber gun was used 1st and then a "kill shot"? I just have to speculate, but I think we (the public) are NOT being told the whole story here and I don't think this was some local nutjob running around looking for someone to shoot because he was playing a real-life video game either.

The Placker Family may be the key to why this happened - but it is NO FAULT OF THEIRS that it did. They were not doing ANYTHING that warranted Taylor and Skyla's deaths and by all evidence were not living a criminal life or involved with criminals in Weleetka. I am in no way accusing the family of responsibility or guilt here. If they were associated with the Bandidos ONCE, they did ALL the right things - they left and took the family to a better environment and away from the criminal influences. Criminals are just that tho - and there is no honor among thieves and murderers. Sometimes you cannot run far enough far enough to escape no matter what you do.

And Witness Protection is FEDERAL not State - there is no WP program (as in new identity, support etc) for state witnesses. They can be given protection or held in a safe house before trial, but they do not get a new identity or support after. WP (like on TV) is pretty much a myth except in rare cases, usually BIG cases, not testifying against the Bandidos on a cigartette and gun arrest in OKLAHOMA. If the Plackers did testify or were involved it would have been up to THEM to relocate and start over the best way they could.

The reality - and my gut and logical mind tell me this was not random or a "crazy unhinged killer" scenario.There is not one iota of evidence the girls "saw" something or did something that a stranger would have felt endangered him to the point he had to get in his truck and drive down the road a half-mile, stop the truck in the middle of the road and shoot them a dozen times with two guns - including a "kill shot" requiring him to get out and stand OVER them. The POI LET passersby see him and his vehicle clearly without reacting the THEM at all. Mr shoot-em up would have shot at the witnesses too if he was so afraid of being seen.

And I am still not sure the main witness in this isn't GP Placker....any word on where the GP's are?? Is ANYONE living in the Placker house? I have a feeling they are in PC or "gone away".

My Opinion

The indictments for the seven motorcycle gang members were Federal charges.
 
The girls were murdered on June 8, 2008. My first post on the case was done on June 9, 2008 when it came out in the press. LE had a headstart and could have issued the warrant soon after the murders as they were running down family members.

Thanks, I just fixed my post.
 
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss what FlowerChild is saying.
I didn't say dismiss it. We just need to realize it is one of many possible scenarios and not the whole enchilada. It should be explored along with every other possible motive here since we have none.
 
Anytime there is a Bench Warrant and LE becomes aware of the person's location especially under these circumstances...they will take care of it. Can you imagine what the press would do to know there was a BW and nothing was done? I think LE was dotting their Is and crossing their Ts.

But the warrant wasn't issued until after the murders.
And from a bad check in 2003....
Do you not think this is odd?

So let's assume the press did get hold of this bad check charge from 2003...
how would that make LE look bad?
 
In regards to the warrant, depending on LE, they may NEVER arrest someone! In my job I come across people with warrants. I inform LE of the current address (which most times is the one on the warrent), and they tell me they don't have room in the jail at this time or it's not that big of a deal, so they're not going to go get them. I've even had people with warrants walk into a court house before and not get picked up on a warrant because it was too much trouble for what the warrant was for. So, yes, I do think it's a little odd that after all this time LE would issue a warrant.
 
I didn't say dismiss it. We just need to realize it is one of many possible scenarios and not the whole enchilada. It should be explored along with every other possible motive here since we have none.

:blowkiss:
SS you seem to want to dismiss any idea that does not go with yours.
IMO
 
I just don't think writing hot checks or his arrest has anything to do with this. In the course of the investigation, they could have realized their oversite to arrest him before and took care of it. Or maybe they didn't know where Joe was living until they dove into the family tree for suspects. Sometimes, they won't go out and actively arrest them on a Bench Warrant, but if they are popped on a traffic violation or other...they will take them to jail for it.

SS, didn't Taylor live in one community and Skyla live in another?

I thought it was something like HenriXXXX...something lol

Just wondering. And do you know how far that was from Taylor's home?

Thanks
 
Arresting someone for something stupid gives them a great opportunity to talk to them and eliminate or include for further investigation. It was a perfect chance to pick this guys brain.
 
Arresting someone for something stupid gives them a great opportunity to talk to them and eliminate or include for further investigation. It was a perfect chance to pick this guys brain.

It may also keep a witness protected...
 
the fact that he was arrested so close to after the murders could be also a sign that LE is checking the family tree and in doing so found this outstanding warrent so arrested him.
 
The DC snipers didn't seem to have a motive nor did they know it was more than one shooter. But they did have a motive and agenda. Not the case here but just one example of killings that made no sense at the time.

Until I know otherwise I still stand by my theory that they were shot simply because of seeing that truck and had no idea that anything was amiss. Something going on in those woods.

Since it rained the next day I have no idea in the world of forensics if a dog could track anything the next day or not. It would make a lot of sense for LE to be dragging that creek and going through those woods with a fine tooth comb.
 
the fact that he was arrested so close to after the murders could be also a sign that LE is checking the family tree and in doing so found this outstanding warrent so arrested him.

The warrant wasn't outstanding... it wasn't even issued until
after the murders.
 
Harley, I have changed my mind so many times the past three days...not sure what ideas are mine anymore. So that isn't the case I assure you. :)

We need a break in this case!
I think it's driving us all crazy...
Is there anything new on this locally?

The longer this goes the more I worry that justice may not come...
 
the fact that he was arrested so close to after the murders could be also a sign that LE is checking the family tree and in doing so found this outstanding warrent so arrested him.

A warrant was issued. But I'm not sure he's been located and arrested yet. Does anyone know?
 
Thanxs guy's all I have to say is WOW now that is a family tree!!!!! :eek:

People connected with the family or family members that have had criminal run-ins with the law, that we know of so far:

Christopher Placker -- violent felony, Peter's son
Linda Kaye Placker -- bogus check, Peter's daughter
Joe Placker -- Bandidos, wife living at Peter's house
Mikal Caudle -- assault on a police officer (currently subject of an arrest warrent?) plus, whatever criminal case this is http://www.odcr.com/detail.php?Case=052-CM 0600000&County=052-
subject of 5 pages of love poems written by Linda Kaye Placker, listed with Christopher Placker in criminal case
Tony Paschal (lots of stuff!) -- not sure if he's related to the family, but there is an Uncle Tony on Linda's site.

People associated with family who've taken out protective orders
Anne Marie -- wife of Joe Placker
Touia Duncan -- identified by Linda as the wife of her brother "Willey."
 
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