Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #4

[STEADFAST]

And this:

Vicky Placker
Weleetka, OK

Relatives:
Ruth Placker
Peter Placker

In one of Peter Plackers debt judgements, there's this line
GARNISHMENT SUMMONS SERVED/RUTH'S AUTOMOTIVE BY SVG CHARLES PLACKER, OWNER ON 12-12-00

link to court case
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oc...e=caseGeneral&casemasterID=484328&db=Oklahoma

 

[Busylady]

I know someone posted that there was a common address, what I am saying is I have been through ever record I could find and cannot find that address and thats what I was asking that a direct link be posted to the Oklahoma City address. Everyone keeps referring me back to the original post or explaining how there is a connection, but still have not seen the actual address or record. So still at this point I cannot see a connection to Joe Placker and Vicky and Peter Placker. The Paschal name is Vickys maiden name. Linda Kaye was born in Texas based on birth records.

If I read correctly Joe Placker Sr's WIFE Anna Marie was residing WITH Vicky and Peter Placker in Oklahoma City...along with Vicky and Peter's daughter Linda Kaye Placker. All at the same address...In Oklahoma City. There is SOME connection or the WIFE would not have been shown residing with Vicky/Peter/Linda Placker.

At the time Taylor was small (say maybe 4 yrs old) the Peter Plackers were known as "Bud and Drag" and Taylor as "Blue". Lots of nicknames in the family. Hard to keep track too, but there is a connection of some sort here. The daughter Linda Kaye has several "mug shots" and inmate photos of family and friends on her old web pages. Linda says she was born in Houston and lives in Ok now due to her boyfriend. Her last address is also in Weleetka. And the Paschal's are OBVIOUSLY involved somehow with Taylor - assume her father or mother is a Paschal?? Still not sure WHO Taylors bio parents are but Peter and Vicky are obviously her G-PArents on one side or the other and they did have full legal custody of her and she called them Mom and Dad.

I think there is clearly a relationship between the Peter Plackers and the Joe Plackers.

My Opinion

 

[cloudajo]

What we seem to have pieced together on the website is that there were 6 witnesses: one passed by the girls, supposedly returning from the bridge, as this witness was described as seeing them moments before they were shot. a supposed separate witness who describes the POI, but we don't know if he noticed the girls. And several (about 4) who reported gunshots.

LE has not released whether the person who saw the girls, also noticed the truck. Or, if the person who saw the POI (they have also hinted that more than one witness has seen the POI, may be the reason for such detail: it was from multiple people) also saw the girls.

So, they have a pretty good timeline of when the girls were shot, but have not released this information.

Thanks. OSBI spokesperson Brown said today several people saw the POI – people who were traveling that road. (IIRC the other day she said a couple of people saw him). But I don't think we know whether there were several witnesses in one vehicle or more than one vehicle.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

I know someone posted that there was a common address, what I am saying is I have been through ever record I could find and cannot find that address and thats what I was asking that a direct link be posted to the Oklahoma City address. Everyone keeps referring me back to the original post or explaining how there is a connection, but still have not seen the actual address or record. So still at this point I cannot see a connection to Joe Placker and Vicky and Peter Placker. The Paschal name is Vickys maiden name. Linda Kaye was born in Texas based on birth records.

Maybe you should PM the PaulaNJ (don't remember the rest of the user name, sorry) from post 101 and ask for clarification.

I don't think the information was posted here; we just took that poster's word that they had found a link.

 

[Littledeer]

Good find Steadfast!

MissHolmes: I don't have a subscription to that site but wow, lots of information there on Placker deaths...... Sometimes going to the beginning can be an answer.....

 

[FlowerChild]

In one of Peter Plackers debt judgements, there's this line
GARNISHMENT SUMMONS SERVED/RUTH'S AUTOMOTIVE BY SVG CHARLES PLACKER, OWNER ON 12-12-00

link to court case
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oc...e=caseGeneral&casemasterID=484328&db=Oklahoma

That was over half a MILLION dollars!
$543,921.70

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

Thanks. OSBI spokesperson Brown said today several people saw the POI – people who were traveling that road. (IIRC the other day she said a couple of people saw him). But I don't think we know whether there were several witnesses in one vehicle or more than one vehicle.

At that time on Sunday evening, people would be going to church, those who did have to work somewhere on Sundays would be going home to dinner, lots of people out for drives in the country probably. So, many cars would have one occupant, some two, a few more than two.

Like we have speculated, there's a lot LE knows that they haven't released to the public. I suspect, they are really holding out for the POI to clarify against what is already known and thus either exonerate or implicate the POI.

 

[Busylady]

The case was for less than 10,000 if you look at the top. The entry showing the large amounts are batch checks that pertain to several cases.

That was over half a MILLION dollars!
$543,921.70

 

[Littledeer]

Like we have speculated, there's a lot LE knows that they haven't released to the public. I suspect, they are really holding out for the POI to clarify against what is already known and thus either exonerate or implicate the POI.

Envoy, this is probably true in regards to LE. But even with the high amount of the reward, no one is biting. And I can't see the POI coming forward on his own. If he was totally innocent, do you think he believes that anyone would believe him??

 

[Leila]

You can find him listed in the OCIS database.

Do you have a link for the OCIS?

 

[STEADFAST]

That was over half a MILLION dollars!
$543,921.70

No, no, the case wasn't for that much. If you look at the few cases of Vicky and Peter, you'll see that they do not have much money.

In fact, except for Christopher Placker and his associates, we have not been able to verify a single violent criminal associate of Peter Placker. (I'm not counting information that has no link. There has been a lot posted that cannot be verified in any way.)

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

No, not really, especially if he has a gun, and the shot specifics haven't been released.

We had him standing over two little girls and shooting them yesterday.

So, I can see his reluctance to come forward. I think SS posted that he has convinced his loved ones, if he has been recognized, that he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and he didn't want any trouble, etc.

 

[STEADFAST]

Do you have a link for the OCIS?

Go to "Court Documents"

You can search OCIS counties and Non-OCIS counties.

http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/casesearch.asp

 

[Leila]

Go to "Court Documents"

You can search OCIS counties and Non-OCIS counties.

http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/casesearch.asp

Thanks Steadfast!

 

[Littledeer]

So, I can see his reluctance to come forward. I think SS posted that he has convinced his loved ones, if he has been recognized, that he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and he didn't want any trouble, etc.

Even if he had convinced his family of that, where are ANY friends, etc. that know this is him from the sketch?? It's not like the reward money is pittance. So I can't really believe that this guy has a true family. IMO, he's a loner or with a gang which would also explain why no one has come forward. Most gang members, etc. don't snitch (rat out) on fellow members.

 

[Littledeer]

First, it's not deer season, so don't shoot me for this question!

I'm curious. Why have we all been fixated on the Placker side?? Yes, I know the girls were killed by Taylor's house. But maybe it was Skylar's family?? Who's to say that this wasn't against them??

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

I agree. I think Flowerschild's scenario is most likely at this point with what we have been given regarding information.

If POI is also the shooter, it was a methodical hit by someone who has killed before and didn't flinch which indicates experience and the ability to disappear.

 

[evelyn24]

I get the feeling Jessica was speaking to someone(s) today and it wasn't us or the media.

When she said 'group' is she referring to the fact this POI may reside on some indian land?
SS said there are no reservations in Oklahoma, but I've heard that tribes do not like handing over their own to the police.
I'm confused about the group comment.
I live near Washington DC, so I'm not familiar with American Indian culture in Oklahoma.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

But maybe it was Skylar's family?? Who's to say that this wasn't against them??

It's possible, but all the events together don't add up like they do with Taylor. She'd been doing that walking route for a year, had set a pattern, etc. Following someone on a sleepover, when you didn't know when they would return the next day, is placing yourself in jeopardy (having to be around that area waiting for the right time for a hit) if you are wanting anonymity.

 

[evelyn24]

I think the quote is stringed together:

Several people have reported they think they know someone, who looks like the POI, but can't state specifically a name.

We know there are several people in that group (locals who match the POI, i.e., Native American, male, long pony tail, etc.) and we just need people in that group (the subset of locals who match the POI) we can sort all this out.

I think they really don't think the POI is the shooter, but saw something since he was there so close to the murders.

As was posted earlier, POI has become a non-threatening term that LE uses to coax people in, thinking that the POI might really be the shooter, but will try to throw suspicion elsewhere, but the trained interrogators will make the talk or find inconsistencies or look up other crimes, etc.

Or, they could be convinced that they know the timeline specifically of the murders and witnesses have definitely place the POI to a time and point in the timeline before the girls were murdered and are convinced he can add the missing piece of the puzzle.

okay..now that makes sense when put in context.