South Africa - Martin, 55, Theresa, 54, Rudi van Breda, 22, murdered, 26 Jan 2015 #4

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Nick van der Leek‏ @HiRezLife 15h15 hours ago
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Interesting parallel to #AmandaKnox case -> the duvet: #VanBreda said he didn't know how the duvet ended up next to his brother Rudi 1/2
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Five holes in van Breda’s story

1. Was Rudi just “lying there” or moving around violently?

2. The emotionless call to emergency services

3. The calls to Bianca

4. Why didn’t he mention Rudi‚ if he now claims he was still alive during the call?

5. Noticing only one patch of blood on the stairs

Read more : http://www.heraldlive.co.za/news/2017/11/06/five-holes-van-bredas-story/
 
Hi Everyone :wave: We've made it to the trial's end! Phew. :D

Enjoy!

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Five holes in van Breda’s story

1. Was Rudi just “lying there” or moving around violently? There are two different versions

2. The emotionless call to emergency services:

3. The calls to Bianca

4. Why didn’t he mention Rudi‚ if he now claims he was still alive during the call?

5. Noticing only one patch of blood on the stairs

http://www.heraldlive.co.za/news/2017/11/06/five-holes-van-bredas-story/
 
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Adv Botha to re-examine. #VanBreda asked if he knows how and when attackers gained access to De Zalze. No, he says.

Do you know if they came through fence or access gates? Or when they left the estate? #VanBreda: no.

How did other residents gain access to De Zalze? #VanBreda says every home had a certain number of access cards.

Attack on mother and sister. Did you view it? #VanBreda: no.

Are you able to shed light on who attacked your sister? HVB: no.

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Defence is expected to re-examine Henri

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B: you were asked about possible manners in which attackers gained access to estate? Do you know how they got into de Zalze?
H: No

B: how did residents gain access?
H: as far as I know everyone had access cards

B: did you view the attack on Marli and your mother?
H: No


B: are you able to shed light on who attacked your sister?
H: No


B: at time of incident you would've been 20 years old. How many violent attacks have you viewed prior to this incident?
H: None
 
Judge Desai interrupting Botha twice so far for leading questions.
 
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Botha begins re-examination.

B: do you know how attackers accessed or left De Zalze Estate? H: I have no information.

B: How did residents of estate gain access? H: As far as i know all residents had access to a certain number of cards

B: Are you able to shed any light on who attacked your sister? H: No

B: How many violent attacks have you viewed in your life? H: None. Desai: None at school, no naughty schoolboys? H: No

B: Did you think your father reacted to your cry for help, or from the strange sounds you heard? H: I don't know specifically

B: When you disarmed attacker, you said he was wearing gloves? H: Correct
 
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"I don't think going back to primary school fights is relevant." I hope Galloway picks up on this. Bullied at school?

For a second time Desai raps Botha on knuckles for "leading" his client through first few questions.

Third objection now to Botha asking leading questions. Jeepers, Mr. Botha.

#VanBreda had a better grip [uses the word "superior"] on axe than attacker. Was it difficult to handle axe with blood on it? "I dunno."
 
Born November 1, 1994 - 20 years old at time of the attack. How many violent attacks did you view in your life? #VanBreda: none.

Axe and knife left behind. Did they leave it behind voluntarily? #VanBreda: no.

Galloway objects; leading and speculative.

You fought attacker and disarmed him. Able to say who had better grip of handle? #VanBreda: I think I did. I got it out of his grip.

Difference in severity of injuries. With what weapon was your inflicted? #VanBreda: with a knife.

VanBreda says his father tried to stop the attack. Did he attempt to disarm the attacker? HVB: Don't think he had time.

Do you know where Sasha was when intruders entered house? #VanBreda: no, I don't.

When attacks occurred and they left? HVB: No, I don't.

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B: do you know what led your father to the room?
H: no specifically, either my shouts or the sounds

B: in your version did the attackers leave behind the axe or knife?
G: objects, leading and speculative

B: you mentioned attacker was wearing gloves. Did you or attacker have better grip on axe?
H: I think I did,got it out of his grip

B: what enabled you to hit the attacker with the axe?
H:when he managed to stab me

H: I didn't see the knife, my focus was getting him back

B: when you went to bathroom, was Rudi asleep or awake?
H: asleep

B: from what you could see what was your father trying to do?
H: he was trying to stop the attacker, didn't have time to disarm

B: what is your knowledge or crime scenes?
H: none

B: you were asked about Sasha he family dog, do you know where she was when they entered the house?
H: no
 
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B: do you know where she was when the attacks occurred or when she left the house?
H: no

B: did you ever see the 2nd attacker?
H: no
B: did you know about the whereabouts during the attack?
H: no

H is asked to look at photographs of dining room table from a position facing towards the stairs


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Do you know where Sasha the dog was before, during and after the attack. "No, I don't."

As Botha goes through his checklist, Desai strokes moustache absently.
 
Did you see second attacker? #VanBreda: no.

Know where his whereabouts during the attack? HVB doesn't know.

Photo of dining room table. Where did family have dinner that evening? #VanBreda: side closest to photographer.

Laptop and docs from when Martin had been working on table. He often worked in study, sometimes watched TV while working, #VanBreda says.

Rudi's missing laptop - Adv Botha refers him to photo album. #VanBreda identifies laptop bag on Rudi's dressing table.

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B: we see laptop there, with open documents. Whose was this?
H: my dad
B: when did he do that?
H: after dinner


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B: who had better grip on axe handle, you or attacker? H: I think I did because I was able to get it out of his grip

Desai: Wouldn't it be difficult to handle an axe with gloves on? H: I don't know...

B: Did you see stab or feel stab? H: I felt the stab but my focus was on hitting the attacker back

B: When you went to bathroom, where was Rudi? H: Asleep.

B: what did you father try to do when he arrived? H: Stop the attack by getting in-between my brother and attacker

B: Do you know where Sasha the dog was when intruders entered the house, attacked and then left? H: No I don't

B: Did you ever see second attacker? H: No i never saw him

H: All i could tell was that there was another voice coming from somewhere in the house

Botha hands two photographs to the witness, depicts dining room table. Where did family have dinner that eve? H: At that table

H: My dad was working there, after dinner

B: Before dinner, can you recall if your dad did some work? H: I cannot recall

B: refers witness to a photograph of boy's room, asks about black object. H: confirms its Rudi's laptop bag.

Court adjourned for tea. We'll be back in a bit


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Amazing moment. Botha's last question - has Henri refer to crime scene photo. Henri does his best to avoid looking at the photo.

Instead of paging through file, Henri thumbs through corner tabs. Quickly glances at photo, then closes file again.

After just 26 minutes, Botha is done with his re-examination. Court adjourned.

Really not sure what that was in aid of. A laptop bag is not a laptop. Hope Galloway picks up on this. Rudi not in bed not asleep?
 
Exactly. Why draw attention to the fact that Rudi couldn't have been on his laptop once he was in bed. Probably to head Galloway off at the pass. :)
 
Judge Desai asking questions. Asks #VanBreda why he didn't lock the back door after intruder left. HVB says he should've.

How much cigarettes did you have? #VanBreda: there was one pack.

Why keep cigs in shoes? Hidden away from Marli, wasn't supposed to know he smoked. Parents rule was it mustn't influence her.

VanBreda presumes blood on shoes was from spatter dripping into carpet next to shoes. Shoes there from previous Friday.

#VanBreda says he wore those shoes when he went for walks. He left them there.

How did blood get on it? Same way spots on stairs got there.

VanBreda's shoes had been standing there for a few days.

When Rudi went to bed that night, was he wearing the blue t-shirt?

Father could have gone around bed to try and disarm intruder. #VanBreda: he went straight. Took beeline for space between Rudi and the man.

If Martin had disarmed him, #VanBreda says he may have been able to help.
Desai says it appears he fell over Rudi to try and protect him.

Henri #VanBreda excused from witness stand.

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