Stacy Ann Peterson, Bolingbrook IL #8

[DeltaDawn]

SuzQ THIS ARTICLE IBNORA POSTED FROM THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE STATES THAT THEY WERE WITH A GROUP OF FRIENDS>

I am not sure what makes people think there are leaks from the Grand Jury.

Scott Rosetto spoke directly to reporters after his appearance and spoke only of his own testimony.

From this very good article in today's Chicago Tribune:

"Rossetto said he testified for about a half-hour.

"They asked what kind of contact that we had, conversations that she maybe had initiated, um, did she look afraid," Rossetto said. "At one point ... the state's attorney looked at me directly and basically said, 'Were you in a relationship?' and I said no. He said, 'Did you do anything to Stacy Peterson,' and I said no, and he was like, 'OK, that's it. You're done.'"

Rossetto declined to reveal other details, saying authorities asked him to keep some information confidential.

But he said that Stacy Peterson had told him she wanted to leave her husband, and that he counseled her to get a lawyer.

"She didn't say why she was leaving, but she kind of hinted at maybe being sick and tired of having to be trapped in the house all the time," Rossetto said. "I think she kind of missed her independence."

Asked if he believed the police consider him a possible suspect, Rossetto said he doesn't think so.

"I was actually at work the day she disappeared," he said."

Other bits of info that I found interesting from the same article:

"He said that when Stacy Peterson met him and a group of friends at a local Denny's restaurant for dinner Oct. 19, they were soon joined unexpectedly by Drew Peterson.

"He just showed up," Rossetto said. "He was actually driving around in a squad car. He drove around the building a couple of times."

He said Stacy Peterson had argued with her husband about her plans to meet Rossetto and the others at the restaurant."

Drew Peterson's pension may be in jeopardy

 

[SuziQ]

Suze Q IB NORA POSTED THIS INTERESTING ARTICLE

Thanks Delta. So Drew sits down at a table where Stacy is sitting with several people, but confronts Scott with how would you feel if this was your wife? For crying out loud Drew, it's not like you caught just the two of them at a hotel or something.

 

[Sedona]

Thanks Delta. So Drew sits down at a table where Stacy is sitting with several people, but confronts Scott with how would you feel if this was your wife? For crying out loud Drew, it's not like you caught just the two of them at a hotel or something.

For all the cheating he has been accused of doing, you would think more women would have surfaced? Unless they were married women.... It would be the M.O. of his personality to be messing around with married women.
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[SeekingJana]

I've considered theories of why Drew would murder Stacy, even if he is a serial cheater who uses and apparently hates women. The simple answer may be that he is a sociopath, or a man who hates to pay child support when a woman successfully leaves him and gets a divorce ( re: Kathleen's homicide).

Since there are so many homicides of pregnant women, I am wondering if Stacy had just discovered she was pregnant again ( with another DP baby) and Drew didn't believe it was his, given his extreme paranoia ( projection of his own cheating heart), didn't want another baby, or she didn't want his baby once she realized that he was a jerk with a capital J .Her Oct. email about the state of their marriage may indicate the timeframe of her lightbulb moment. She could easily have been killed by the brute in an argument or fight, especially IF he found anything communicative between her and any other male and had suspicions or knowledge of a pregnancy. Not that he did, this is all a theory based on a collection of his words since he started talking and talking and which may indicate a secondary focus on his part and an attempt at directing us in a specific way.

The reason I wonder if there was disclosure and a fight about another baby on the way is mainly because of several off the top of his head remarks he has made which focus on the abdomen and female reproduction.. "When DP talks, I listen", then I ask myself why he said exactly that particular thing. First was the really inappropriate and very tacky overly personal lie about her depression and crazy talk about leaving every month with PMS. Indicating that she had PMS at the time she disappeared. I don't think she did most of what he has said she did, but if his mind was on things like reproduction issues, maybe it was because of a huge blowup over another child for him to support financially or a fight about paternity or abortion issues.

Next was the absolutely stupid comment about the only things she took. Most people would come up with jeans, sweater, tennis shoes, undies, nightgown, something practical OR would say that nothing was noticed missing at all.
Certainly not bikini, even while he was hammering home his lie that she ran away with an invisible lover. My husband could not tell anyone how many swimsuits I have, and I doubt Drew knew or cared how many Stacy owned. They had some kind of small pool in the backyard, and with 2 small children and the older boys, it makes sense that she would need lots of swimwear.
If she was killed due to an early pregnancy, the bikini makes even less sense and is designed as another diversionary tactic regarding his claim that " She walked out and is where she wanted to be".
But the secondary message is that Drew's thoughts were on Stacy's body. A bikini may be a subconscious way of telling us that he was thinking of body-revealing swimwear and her body vs. just saying swimsuit.

I've also doubted his claim that Stacy, at 23 years of age max, had a tummy tuck. Again, the message behind the words is that DP was thinking about her abdominal area. Most women who have tummy tucks wait until they are absolutely certain they won't desire more babies. Some lipo, if needed, maybe, but NOT something as drastic as a tummy tuck.
Unless Stacy had a tubal ligation which we are not privvy to info about, I think she would have preserved her reproductive capacity at her very young age and given the state of her current marriage.

I am almost certain from the photos I have seen of her combined with the height and weight description of her on the missing posters, that she was very tiny and at her age, she would have great skin elasticity and muscle tone and quick muscle strength rebound after only 2 pregnancies. I don't think she would have this surgery at her age, which leaves scars of varying degree on the lower abdomen and often has a very painful recovery period, depending upon the surgical technique used. I can't see how any surgeon would even consider her as an appropriate candidate.
My last thought on the tummy tuck on the grocery list of " sacrifices I have made in the name of love for Stacy" is that most doctors, ethical or otherwise, would protect the status of their tummy tightening work by telling a woman that the work would suffer greatly with another pregnancy or other large weight gain.

I saved the most incredible DP statement for last. The statement from DP and his mouthpiece atty. that there was a " tip" that she was seen with another man and had a ' tummy pudge', insinuating that there were visible signs of early pregnancy.
Of course, I think the so called tip is a complete lie by DP in addition to trying to bolster his bogus theory that she skipped with another guy, but maybe the secondary message is that his thoughts were on a pregnancy.

I think it is worth considering that Stacy might have just done a home pg. test and Drew found it in the garbabe during his excessive snooping, or that she asked for the money for an abortion, etc and he snapped, totally lost it and killed her.

One of the reasons I think her probable murder was not as well planned or organized as Kathleen's probable murder by DP is that his stories about cars being moved, her last cell phone call, and what Stacy said about leaving are conflicting, indicating that he did not plan her murder. If someone was asked to help him move a large, heavy container, as I believe they were, this adds to the theory of an unplanned rage kill.
Cops know better than anyone else that involving another person in a murder coverup is extremely dumb.

I hope this isn't stupid. I don't know what Ill. law is concerning fetal homicide but if she was pregnant and if her body can be found soon, maybe he faces 2 murder charges in her case alone.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

If Stacy was at Denny's on Oct. 19th, and Drew was working, but stopped by......who was taking care of the children that afternoon/evening?

 

[mysteriew]

Stacy lived in an abusive and controlling relationship. With that abuse comes emotional abuse. And the result is frequently low self-esteem. Now Stacy is chafing against the control she lived under. She has decided to leave. She knows how to reach out to an old friend, one that she had something in common with. He was a nurse, she was going to nursing college. She may also have been looking for a friend that was unrelated to the marriage. And she may have needed a boost to her self esteem to show herself that with her marriage ending, that doesn't mean that she would be alone forever. Under this scenario, it wouldn't be unusual for Stacy to flirt, maybe even to exchange 'racy' emails.

With a jealous person it doesn't take much to make them jealous. A smile at another man, too long a conversation, even a request for a divorce coupled with a meeting of a group of friends if they were not friends of the couple. So it is entirely possible that Stacy wasn't having an affair, but would have been enough to set Drew P off and enough to make him jealous. One thing that points toward Stacy not having an affair, is that she told him she was meeting with the friends at Denny's. She knew he was a jealous, controlling and abusive man. So why would she tell him that she was meeting with a group that included a lover? Why not just meet with them and not say anything? Certainly if she had been able to hide an affair, she would have been able to hide a lunch.

But just supposing that she was having an affair. So Stacy wasn't perfect? Most people aren't. And thinking of a divorce is a scary thing even if the marriage wasn't abusive. Scary enough that many people stay in an unhappy marriage rather than go through a divorce. So, if there was an affair, maybe it was Stacy's way to reconnect with her old self, the Stacy from before the marriage, the Stacy that had her pride, her independence, and her strength. The Stacy that had boyfriends. She would not be the first to take a lover at the marriage end, nor I suspect will she be the last.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Great post SEEKING JANA ! I think that inbetween the lies that people tell, they invariably insert some truth, either they cannot help themselves or a portion of the truth helps cement the lie in their minds and they hope others.

My biggest qualm with According to Drew info is that he was so stupid as to make up a story of her running away with another guy..when truly it did not suit her character per friends and family. Even when she was meeting the Rossetto Brothers and Firends at Denny's, she told Drew where she was going..and he didn't like it. She had told him that she wanted a divorce. She didn't seem to shy away from the topics that were bothering her. They were in marriage counseling and she told her sister that was not going well. She seems to be a very honest person in speaking her thoughts to others.
My point is that I do not believe she would have run away with or without another man. She was trying to find an apartment..why would she do this if she was going to run away? She was seeking a divorce..why again would she do this if she was running away? Why bother to enroll in nursing school and attend classes if you are getting ready to run away. She wanted to move away..not run away...but in Drew's mind they are one in the same..so a lie with some truth mixed in to throw people off. Or so he thought. He knew friends and family knew the marriage was rocky, yet he says in his mind it was fine...because he was still in control..right up to the very minute Drew ended her life he was seeking complete and utter control over Stacy.

 

[mysteriew]

For all the cheating he has been accused of doing, you would think more women would have surfaced? Unless they were married women.... It would be the M.O. of his personality to be messing around with married women.
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Even his ex-wives did not want their name associated with his. And if they had problems with him in the past, but are now off his radar, why would they want to do anything that would draw his attention to them again? So it isn't that suprising that they aren't coming forward. And conversely, even women who may have dated or had an affair with him in the past and had no problem with him aren't coming forward either.

 

[DeltaDawn]

If Stacy was at Denny's on Oct. 19th, and Drew was working, but stopped by......who was taking care of the children that afternoon/evening?

Probably the two older boys could care for themselves and maybe Sharon watched the two younger children for her.

 

[ckwood32]

The article about the neighbor seeing Drew loading a blue barrel into his truck also said LE had good information that Stacy's body is somewhere around Scott Rossetto's house. I wonder if that's what Drew meant when he kept saying "Stacy is where she wants to be". Hmmm.

 

[mysteriew]

LOL, I hope Rosetto has checked around his home and property. And I hope LE has checked with the garbage people in the area.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Probably the two older boys could care for themselves and maybe Sharon watched the two younger children for her.

I had assumed as much DD, but wonder what Stacy told Sharon was the reason for watching the 2 & 4 year olds, did Sharon know of the plans to meet at Denny's?

I would also assume that Stacy would have told Sharon about the encounter with Drew at Denny's while having dinner with S. Rossetto IF in fact Sharon was the one caring for the kids.

 

[SeekingJana]

Great post SEEKING JANA ! I think that inbetween the lies that people tell, they invariably insert some truth, either they cannot help themselves or a portion of the truth helps cement the lie in their minds and they hope others.

My biggest qualm with According to Drew info is that he was so stupid as to make up a story of her running away with another guy..when truly it did not suit her character per friends and family. Even when she was meeting the Rossetto Brothers and Firends at Denny's, she told Drew where she was going..and he didn't like it. She had told him that she wanted a divorce. She didn't seem to shy away from the topics that were bothering her. They were in marriage counseling and she told her sister that was not going well. She seems to be a very honest person in speaking her thoughts to others.
My point is that I do not believe she would have run away with or without another man. She was trying to find an apartment..why would she do this if she was going to run away? She was seeking a divorce..why again would she do this if she was running away? Why bother to enroll in nursing school and attend classes if you are getting ready to run away. She wanted to move away..not run away...but in Drew's mind they are one in the same..so a lie with some truth mixed in to throw people off. Or so he thought. He knew friends and family knew the marriage was rocky, yet he says in his mind it was fine...because he was still in control..right up to the very minute Drew ended her life he was seeking complete and utter control over Stacy.

Thank you. I was sort of afraid to post what I did, because it is speculative. But I can't get over his many oblique references to her body, especially her abdominal area.

I agree that a practiced liar will insert some things which are true. A person in LE told me that very thing once.

She was planning to get away from Drew and start a life of her own for the first time ever, and had indicated to others that she feared for her safety, but apparenly she had reasons to think he was not planning violence against her or she would have fled with the youngest kids while he was at work and gone somewhere safe. I wonder what gave her a false sense of security? Was it the new diamond ring gift? Lovey dovey talk about his future plans for her?
Anyway, I think something really signficant sent him into an uncontrollable rage against Stacy at a time when she was blindsided and trapped in the house with him.

I'm not convinced that he would really have minded her leaving and getting a divorce if it was his idea or had his prior approval. After all, he had 3 prior divorces and most likely is unable to commit to anyone, or care enough to hurt if they leave. I'm sure he had several women on the side and would have found wife and child care provider #5 soon.

What DP cares about are how he looks to others publicly and about money. Loss of either would be very strong motives for him in a flashpoint rage killing.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I had assumed as much DD, but wonder what Stacy told Sharon was the reason for watching the 2 & 4 year olds, did Sharon know of the plans to meet at Denny's?

I would also assume that Stacy would have told Sharon about the encounter with Drew at Denny's while having dinner with S. Rossetto IF in fact Sharon was the one caring for the kids.

I cannot find the article now, but I did read that this group meet up at Denny's was at 9:30 PM, or 9:30 PM was about the time Drew arrived . Which means, if that is correct, that she may not have needed a sitter if the two younger children were in bed and the 14 and 13 year old could take care of things until she returned.

She still may have had Sharon come over to check on things..and I think she would have been honest with Sharon.

 

[mysteriew]

While I understand and agree with your statement about liars often inserting a bit of truth in every lie, I have to say I saw his statements about her body in a different way. His talk about her having "repairs" to her body, to me indicated he didn't see her as a person, she was a thing that at times needed "repair." And that the continual comments about her body, her menstural cycle because he is the one who was fixated on her body. It is a trait often seen with abusers. The spouse is not a person in their own right, they are a possession and an extension of the abuser. "My wife" to them often has the same meaning as "my car", "my house", or "my dog." They are things to be taken care of in the physical sense. And what appealed to Drew P the most, what attracted Drew P to Stacy and what he was proudest of 'owning' was her body. Did you notice that in all the talk about her body, and her alleged 'flaws', her "mood disorders" he never mentioned grief over the loss of her sister? Her sister was only mentioned in passing when he said she had been seeing a psychiatrist since the death of her sister. Grief in a possession would be something foreign to him.

Which incidently is noticed in his talk about the children. I have never heard Drew P say that the kids missed their mom. When he was asked about the kids he danced around the question then said the older kids were staying busy and the younger kids were told their mother was on vacation and they played with them.

 

[Leila]

I am glad the Rossetto brothers have come out and told their side of the story, because in a way it is Stacy's side too. They were all just frends and I do believe that. I don't think Stacy was going to jump from the frying pan into the fire. I think that just trying to get an attorney, divorce Drew, move into an apartment with the kids, and continue nursing school would have been overwhelming to say the least. I think that these brothers were friends, and people she felt she could trust. Also remember they are nurses and that is what she was going to school for. There were other friends with them at Denny's so it is not like they were alone, planning a fling. With everything Stacy was trying to accomplish she would have needed friends and family to help bolster her and pull her through. So I don't find her having lunch with a group of friends odd..I think that it is quite normal for all of us to have friends.

I'm glad the Rossetto brothers have come out with their side of the story too. I think this really shows that DP can't fathom people of the opposite sex being just friends. His concept of a male-female relationship is nothing more than romance and sex - he'd never consider a female being a friend with no romance/sex involved.

 

[Leila]

"A police source says they have "good information" Stacy was dumped in the Shorewood area near the home of Rossetto. Another source said investigators believe the killer may have attempted to frame Rossetto by depositing the body near his house."

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/663574,4_1_JO23_PETERSON_S1.article

This is just speculation, but remembering back to the very beginning of this............Drew was wearing that bandana to cover his face, along with sunglasses and a NYPD hat. It was very obvious that he didn't want to be seen. He was hiding from someone.

In reading that sentence quoted above, I'm wondering if someone in the Shorewood saw DP that Sunday - Oct. 28 - in the Shorewood area, and DP knows he was seen and was hiding from being identified?

 

[mysteriew]

"A police source says they have "good information" Stacy was dumped in the Shorewood area near the home of Rossetto. Another source said investigators believe the killer may have attempted to frame Rossetto by depositing the body near his house."

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/663574,4_1_JO23_PETERSON_S1.article

This is just speculation, but remembering back to the very beginning of this............Drew was wearing that bandana to cover his face, along with sunglasses and a NYPD hat. It was very obvious that he didn't want to be seen. He was hiding from someone.

In reading that sentence quoted above, I'm wondering if someone in the Shorewood saw DP that Sunday - Oct. 28 - in the Shorewood area, and DP knows he was seen and was hiding from being identified?

That is what I have always thought. I think Drew P knew he was seen by a witness who didn't know him. And he hid his face to keep them from recognizing him. But media managed to get his face out by putting up family pictures that he was in. It was just after that when Drew P quit wearing his disguises. I think after that he thought it was useless.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I'm glad the Rossetto brothers have come out with their side of the story too. I think this really shows that DP can't fathom people of the opposite sex being just friends. His concept of a male-female relationship is nothing more than romance and sex - he'd never consider a female being a friend with no romance/sex involved.

The problem is with friends of the opposite sex you don't exchange sexual messages unless you are kidding around, or referring to someone else.

My husband never felt threatened in any way by my male friends, but had he heard or read of sexual things between my male friends and me personally he would not have thought it okay.

I'm in no way defending DP, just stating that most would not consider it okay to exchange such conversations, and then meet with that person even if others were present.

 

[SeekingJana]

While I understand and agree with your statement about liars often inserting a bit of truth in every lie, I have to say I saw his statements about her body in a different way. His talk about her having "repairs" to her body, to me indicated he didn't see her as a person, she was a thing that at times needed "repair." And that the continual comments about her body, her menstural cycle because he is the one who was fixated on her body. It is a trait often seen with abusers. The spouse is not a person in their own right, they are a possession and an extension of the abuser. "My wife" to them often has the same meaning as "my car", "my house", or "my dog." They are things to be taken care of in the physical sense. And what appealed to Drew P the most, what attracted Drew P to Stacy and what he was proudest of 'owning' was her body. Did you notice that in all the talk about her body, and her alleged 'flaws', her "mood disorders" he never mentioned grief over the loss of her sister? Her sister was only mentioned in passing when he said she had been seeing a psychiatrist since the death of her sister. Grief in a possession would be something foreign to him.

Which incidently is noticed in his talk about the children. I have never heard Drew P say that the kids missed their mom. When he was asked about the kids he danced around the question then said the older kids were staying busy and the younger kids were told their mother was on vacation and they played with them.

I agree with you.There's no question that he has depersonalized her since the murder. However, don't murderers usually seek emotional distance from their victims? Do we know if he used depersonalization in his statements about her while she was alive? If so, those statements would be more indicative of his long term ideation regarding Stacy.

His actions were certainly those of a control freak, but after knowing what a dog he was, cheating all the time for many years and through 4 marriages and 6 children, his attempts to control another person may be his projection of his own sexual promiscuity onto Stacy more than an actual need or desire to control her. Since he was a *advertiser censored* in his marriage, he thought his wife was just like him, sleepng around and cruising for the next bed partner. It's not rational, it's projection.

The specific nature of the extra details he throws in ad lib are what I think may be the " bit of truth in the lies".
IOW, his words may be focused only on creating doubt and an alibi, but his subconscious may be telling the thoughts which trouble him most within the many depersonalizating statements.

JMO, I hope we will have answers soon!
Maria